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Posting here for urgent help, Very long, I need help before I give up

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nhbid · 10/01/2024 18:50

It’s not my intention to offend anyone so sorry if I word something wrong, I have a 27 year old son, ASD and a multitude of mental health conditions including a personality disorder. His is on medication, but he is exactly the same on meds as he is off them.

He is aggressive, Plays people off against each other, Is a compulsive liar, Can be violent, Sends abusive texts constantly, Has hit me, thrown things at me, threatened to kill me, threatened to burn my home down, Has smashed my windows on my home so much that I had to move, smashed my car up, makes constant threats if he doesn’t get his own way, Blames me for every single little thing that has ever or does ever go wrong in his life, Every single day is another drama which he seems to thrive on and enjoy, Openly tells people he will only know true happiness when I’m dead, Its endless and its every single day of my life. He lives alone, We do not live together.

He loves to cause rifts between the (extended) family then when everything blows up will act all confused and ask why everyone has fallen out with him and why his family can’t just get along. Literally his favourite thing to say is ‘Can’t we all just get along now?’

He enjoys doing things like posting a note through my door at 3am telling me once he gets home he is going to kill himself, he will be dead by the time I read that note and its my fault he is dead, Woke up read that and called an ambulance, When they got there he was playing xbox and told them I fell for it again..

The latest thing he is doing is making up allegations about me, not small things, life changing things, Not only that but he is actually going to to police reporting me and in the last month alone I have had the police to my home asking various questions etc, To give an example he told the police I was trying to kill him by poisoning his food or drinks, I explained he has always been like that with food/drinks, all of his life and will not accept anything from anyone unless its sealed/unopened. He told them I had been taking significant sums of my grandparents money (total lie) Five different allegations so far. The most serious is he started telling people his dad used to touch him when he was a kid, then the same day once everyone knew he said he made it up because he enjoys seeing me hurt and he enjoys the distruction he is causing me. His words.

Two weeks ago he showed up at my home and told me he was going to kill me, I was doing a video with my phone in my pocket and caught him saying that so he was arrested (again) and is now on bail, I was recording because the last time he showed up he smashed my window so I wanted some proof if it happened again. An hour after being released on bail he was banging at my door wanting to be let in.

He then called me last night, I answered and he started screaming at me that I was dead to him, he fucking hates me, wishes I was dead and I’m an evil cunt for what I have done to him, This morning I woke up to a text saying he was sorry that he’s just stressed out, can't we not just get along? then this afternoon called me an evil twisted cunt again. He’s ok for ten minutes then it all starts again.

On top of all of the above he has done nothing but talk of the MI5 following him, children on his street being spies, cars deliberately shining their lights into his windows at night, taxi drivers are all working with the police feeding them information, gangs of people following him, he has had his neighbour arrested for something he didn’t do, and recently shouted in his neighbours face for driving his car out of his own driveway.

There is NOTHING normal in my life and nothing to look forward to, Anything good is shat on or ruined by him instantly. I have had one holiday in ten years, First hour I arrived there he called me to say he was going to kill himself because I was a bitch of a mother that has abandoned him.

Changed my number a few times but he just gets it from other people, Blocked him many times but he just gets a new number or just shows up at my home, If I tell him I want nothing to do with him until he gets help with his mental health he just forces himself back into my life and nothing ever changes or gets better.

His mental health team are aware of all of the above and NEVER get back to me, if I go to speak in person they are always out of home visits, He has been arrested many times and nothing changes.

What can I do to get out of this infinite loop? I woke up today and all I could think was I would be better off dead as there is no way out of all this. This has been going on every single day since he was 13. I'm waking up being sick, I don't feel well myself at all, Every day starts with doom and gloom and drama and I just know today will be the same as tomorrow and the day after and the day after.

I really need help but feel there is none? Apart from changing my identity and moving to the moon I’m unsure if any of this is ever going to change or get better? If I ask for advice from anyone i know nobody knows what to advise because who would really unless they are going through it themselves?

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Hippobot · 10/01/2024 22:19

Sounds like he needs sectioned as he is a danger to other people and potentially to himself. Can you get a restraining order? If I were you I would be moving as far away as possible and not sharing any of your contact details or address with any one who may pass them to him. No one should live in that kind of hell. If this was anyone other than your son there surely would be a restraining order after all the death threats, abuse and criminal damage. I feel very very bad for you. I can only try to imagine the awful stress you are under all the time. I really wish you all the best if luck that you can get away from him.

Mumof3confused · 10/01/2024 22:19

madroid · 10/01/2024 22:04

I know there's posters who know nothing of mental health problems but I am astounded at some of these responses.

The man is ill and while he is terrorising his mother (for whom I have complete sympathy) he is also almost certainly in a hell of his own too. He surely deserves some compassion? (AND a decent mental health service)

He does deserve all of that but Op is at the end of her tether here and has tried all of those things.

What advice do you have for the Op?

Mumof3confused · 10/01/2024 22:20

Op, who are the people that hand over your number? Cut them out of your life.

Prawncow · 10/01/2024 22:26

madroid · 10/01/2024 22:04

I know there's posters who know nothing of mental health problems but I am astounded at some of these responses.

The man is ill and while he is terrorising his mother (for whom I have complete sympathy) he is also almost certainly in a hell of his own too. He surely deserves some compassion? (AND a decent mental health service)

Our mental health services have been underfunded for decades and are at breaking point but it sounds like he has had help. He’s been sectioned more than once. He’s been offered supported housing. He won’t engage with the help offered and won’t accept that he needs it. You can’t force someone to accept help until they reach the point that they are sectioned and the OP says it goes right back to square one when he comes out.

BMW6 · 10/01/2024 22:28

madroid

Of course the poor lad is not responsible for his appalling MH and I'm sure he is in a living hell.

One can feel compassion for him BUT the physical safety of the OP is paramount. Her very life is at stake.

Indeed it would be fabulous if there were adequate MH facilities to care for him (whether he wants to be there or not) and protect his Mum (and the General Public).

But there aren't. We have to deal with the situation as it actually is.

Move OP and tell no-one where you are. Keep in touch with trusted people by phone and email as pp suggested.

I'm so, so sorry.

DeMol · 10/01/2024 22:31

Is moving away practically possible (eh job wise) @nhbid ? Apologies if you’ve said and I’ve missed it. But there’s not much point people continuing to suggest it it’s a fantasy (wrong word, sorry can’t think of anything better) and not a reality.

FlamingoQueen · 10/01/2024 22:31

I have no answers, I’m afraid, but wanted to just send you a hug x

Pelham678 · 10/01/2024 22:34

madroid · 10/01/2024 22:04

I know there's posters who know nothing of mental health problems but I am astounded at some of these responses.

The man is ill and while he is terrorising his mother (for whom I have complete sympathy) he is also almost certainly in a hell of his own too. He surely deserves some compassion? (AND a decent mental health service)

Yes but it is beyond the help of the OP who is not a trained medical or psychological practitioner. In fact even one of those would not be able to provide the level of care and support required. Such a serious mental health disorder would need a team of people and initially at least a residential placement.

We are not trying to address a broken health system. We are trying to advise a woman who is in a living hell of her own and I would say at extreme risk of having violence perpetrated against her. From the account given, her son sounds more likely to commit violence than to harm himself.

It is pointless on this thread to be compassionate towards the son, who is not going to read these posts. It will just water down the message for the person who is at risk and will not provide any help towards the son. She already has others trying to guilt her in order to salve their own conscience and put all the responsibility onto her shoulders. Some situations are beyond the capacity of any one person OP and sadly this sounds like one of them.

I'm so sorry.

UndertheCedartree · 10/01/2024 22:39

It sounds like his mental health is very bad. What exactly is he diagnosed with?

I would request an urgent assessment of his mental health and a medication review. Make sure you detail that you fear for your life and all his delusions. Good luck, OP

UndertheCedartree · 10/01/2024 22:42

Just seen you've said he has paranoid schizophrenia. Has the medication ever had any effect in his delusions?

Reach9out · 10/01/2024 22:46

This sounds horrendous. Son or not he is making your life living hell and not treating you like a mother. Move away, start a fresh, you only get one life and you should enjoy it as much as you can. Cut out family and friends who will tell your son about your move . Only tell people you can trust 100%.

MaitreKarlsson · 10/01/2024 22:48

Don't have advice just sending Flowers

nhbid · 10/01/2024 22:51

UndertheCedartree · 10/01/2024 22:42

Just seen you've said he has paranoid schizophrenia. Has the medication ever had any effect in his delusions?

He has been on a few different things but nothing so far has made a jot of difference at all. He is exactly the same if he is on them or off them.

I'm far from an expert but I believe he doesn't have it at all, I think he has been mis diagnosed.

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MCOut · 10/01/2024 22:56

It sounds like he is a real danger to you, his mental health team is atrocious and he needs to be hospitalised. I feel so sorry for you OP and lack of support you’re being shown is horrendous. At some point, you should consider moving and ending contact.

Smineusername · 10/01/2024 22:57

I do know someone who murdered their mother while experiencing psychosis.

I would not underestimate the risk to your safety.

He needs to be sectioned but in the meantime you do need to disappear. I would go far away (eg Scotland if you live in England) and don't share your new contact details with anyone. Abusive men are most dangerous when you try to or succeed in leaving.

Sorry you are going through this and good luck x

Purplehatty · 10/01/2024 22:58

Reach9out · 10/01/2024 22:46

This sounds horrendous. Son or not he is making your life living hell and not treating you like a mother. Move away, start a fresh, you only get one life and you should enjoy it as much as you can. Cut out family and friends who will tell your son about your move . Only tell people you can trust 100%.

This

auntyElle · 10/01/2024 23:01

But wouldn’t a restraining order help the police act on any even small incidents, rather than the current out of control situation, @Falkenburg? I realise it will mean nothing to the son.

BussInPoots · 10/01/2024 23:03

Sorry this is slightly irrelevant to the OP’s situation but to the various posters (at least 3 at the last count) who are mentioning bipolar disorder: why on earth are you discussing bipolar? This isn’t relevant.

The OP’s son has a difficult and complex list of conditions / diagnoses, but does NOT have bipolar, so all those of you who are talking of bipolar in negative / risky terms: please don’t. It’s unnecessarily stigmatising, and irrelevant to what’s being discussed.

thebestinterest · 10/01/2024 23:05

Oh, heavens! My heart breaks for you 😭
This situation sounds like a living hell, and must be so difficult to cope with, OP.

You do not owe your adult son anything; you do know that, right?

I would not tolerate abusive behavior like that from anyone, kin included. I’m not sure what you can do to make this go away other than disappearing. I’m so sorry!

Pixiedustandtwinkletoes6 · 10/01/2024 23:06

Hugs xx

RangerNZ · 10/01/2024 23:06

Yes, perhaps have him sectioned and then move. You have done all you can for him and it is now up to other, more experienced and specialised professionals. He will be much better off and you can start to take care of your own health and well-being - that is very important, too.

Noseybookworm · 10/01/2024 23:08

madroid · 10/01/2024 22:04

I know there's posters who know nothing of mental health problems but I am astounded at some of these responses.

The man is ill and while he is terrorising his mother (for whom I have complete sympathy) he is also almost certainly in a hell of his own too. He surely deserves some compassion? (AND a decent mental health service)

Yes he is clearly ill but he's also extremely dangerous and OP deserves to not be terrorised, she needs to get away from him. Do you not think she has done everything in her power to get him help? She needs to think of her own safety and wellbeing.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 10/01/2024 23:14

I'm so sorry Your life sounds a living nightmare
Firstly, I think you need to move and change as much about your life as possible
This is Domestic violence, threats and harassment so it's worth contacting womens aid for help.They could help with a refuge too

TinyKittenPaw · 10/01/2024 23:16

OP this sounds so awful. I hope your ok.

can you get an injunction and a camera in your home?

Quitelikeit · 10/01/2024 23:17

Please cut him off.

You cannot change him or help him.

Do focus on things you can change in life though.

You’ve not mentioned if he sees his father but god I would be directing him that way.

If you don’t move get a ring door bell to capture his threats.

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