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Posting here for urgent help, Very long, I need help before I give up

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nhbid · 10/01/2024 18:50

It’s not my intention to offend anyone so sorry if I word something wrong, I have a 27 year old son, ASD and a multitude of mental health conditions including a personality disorder. His is on medication, but he is exactly the same on meds as he is off them.

He is aggressive, Plays people off against each other, Is a compulsive liar, Can be violent, Sends abusive texts constantly, Has hit me, thrown things at me, threatened to kill me, threatened to burn my home down, Has smashed my windows on my home so much that I had to move, smashed my car up, makes constant threats if he doesn’t get his own way, Blames me for every single little thing that has ever or does ever go wrong in his life, Every single day is another drama which he seems to thrive on and enjoy, Openly tells people he will only know true happiness when I’m dead, Its endless and its every single day of my life. He lives alone, We do not live together.

He loves to cause rifts between the (extended) family then when everything blows up will act all confused and ask why everyone has fallen out with him and why his family can’t just get along. Literally his favourite thing to say is ‘Can’t we all just get along now?’

He enjoys doing things like posting a note through my door at 3am telling me once he gets home he is going to kill himself, he will be dead by the time I read that note and its my fault he is dead, Woke up read that and called an ambulance, When they got there he was playing xbox and told them I fell for it again..

The latest thing he is doing is making up allegations about me, not small things, life changing things, Not only that but he is actually going to to police reporting me and in the last month alone I have had the police to my home asking various questions etc, To give an example he told the police I was trying to kill him by poisoning his food or drinks, I explained he has always been like that with food/drinks, all of his life and will not accept anything from anyone unless its sealed/unopened. He told them I had been taking significant sums of my grandparents money (total lie) Five different allegations so far. The most serious is he started telling people his dad used to touch him when he was a kid, then the same day once everyone knew he said he made it up because he enjoys seeing me hurt and he enjoys the distruction he is causing me. His words.

Two weeks ago he showed up at my home and told me he was going to kill me, I was doing a video with my phone in my pocket and caught him saying that so he was arrested (again) and is now on bail, I was recording because the last time he showed up he smashed my window so I wanted some proof if it happened again. An hour after being released on bail he was banging at my door wanting to be let in.

He then called me last night, I answered and he started screaming at me that I was dead to him, he fucking hates me, wishes I was dead and I’m an evil cunt for what I have done to him, This morning I woke up to a text saying he was sorry that he’s just stressed out, can't we not just get along? then this afternoon called me an evil twisted cunt again. He’s ok for ten minutes then it all starts again.

On top of all of the above he has done nothing but talk of the MI5 following him, children on his street being spies, cars deliberately shining their lights into his windows at night, taxi drivers are all working with the police feeding them information, gangs of people following him, he has had his neighbour arrested for something he didn’t do, and recently shouted in his neighbours face for driving his car out of his own driveway.

There is NOTHING normal in my life and nothing to look forward to, Anything good is shat on or ruined by him instantly. I have had one holiday in ten years, First hour I arrived there he called me to say he was going to kill himself because I was a bitch of a mother that has abandoned him.

Changed my number a few times but he just gets it from other people, Blocked him many times but he just gets a new number or just shows up at my home, If I tell him I want nothing to do with him until he gets help with his mental health he just forces himself back into my life and nothing ever changes or gets better.

His mental health team are aware of all of the above and NEVER get back to me, if I go to speak in person they are always out of home visits, He has been arrested many times and nothing changes.

What can I do to get out of this infinite loop? I woke up today and all I could think was I would be better off dead as there is no way out of all this. This has been going on every single day since he was 13. I'm waking up being sick, I don't feel well myself at all, Every day starts with doom and gloom and drama and I just know today will be the same as tomorrow and the day after and the day after.

I really need help but feel there is none? Apart from changing my identity and moving to the moon I’m unsure if any of this is ever going to change or get better? If I ask for advice from anyone i know nobody knows what to advise because who would really unless they are going through it themselves?

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nhbid · 10/01/2024 20:28

Goatymum · 10/01/2024 20:16

Im so sorry that you’re dealing with this, no parent should be in the position of having to escape from their own child, but it’s probably in your best interests.
I agree with a PP that he sounds like he has psychosis. You say he’s medicated but it makes no difference - does he ever have med reviews, has he been sectioned ever or been in a psychiatric ward, etc?

He has been sectioned in the past yes, but gets out and it all starts again.

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Fingeronthebutton · 10/01/2024 20:28

I have no advice but I just wanted you to know I’m thinking of you 💐

beststepforward · 10/01/2024 20:29

So very sorry to hear you're going through this OP. Sending love

Carpediemmakeitcount · 10/01/2024 20:29

This country has no money there is no way in hell they should be letting him out.

RunningJo · 10/01/2024 20:31

Can you speak to a residential home (apologies if that’s not what they're called), where people with the same issues as your son, stay. They may be able to offer some help and advice as to how to deal with him, who best to contact etc?

I hope you can get the help you need. It sounds an awful way to live.
I hope you find someone who is able to help, you shouldn’t be left to deal with this behaviour.

determinedtomakethiswork · 10/01/2024 20:31

Does his daughter have any history of mental health problems?

determinedtomakethiswork · 10/01/2024 20:31

So sorry I can't edit that. I mean does his dad…

Unknownuser25 · 10/01/2024 20:32

Could he be sectioned? Sorry to put it bluntly but he may actually get the help he needs then, you will know he is safe and he won't have access too you whenever he feels like it so you will feel safe. It's not his fault, it's not yours, you've put up with it for long enough. I feel like it if was my son I could find it in myself to put it to the relevant people. I'm really sorry your going through this.

sunshinesky · 10/01/2024 20:33

Your situation is heartbreaking, I'm so sorry for all you've been through. Agree with others, it seems like your only option is to move away for your own safety 💐

MaisyAndTallulah · 10/01/2024 20:33

I'm so sorry, OP, that is no life.

I'm not in UK but can you get a trespass or protection order? Then he can be arrested every time he breaches it. I'm surprised he hasn't been charges with waiting police time.

You do need a way to escape him
How awful.

Munchyseeds2 · 10/01/2024 20:35

As hard as it is, I don't think you have any option other than to cut all ties, if you don't you will have no life and it sounds as if you have done your best.

Feelingleftoutagain · 10/01/2024 20:36

You need to get a restraining order against him, check with his team that he is on the right level of medication and awful as it sounds cut all ties maybe only for a few months just to give yourself a break, change your number and only answer to numbers you know, you need time for yourself

Ohdearohdearohdea · 10/01/2024 20:37

He is obviously mentally unwell and needs to live in a facility that specialises in his disorders. Can he be sectioned? I also wouldn't worry about him killing himself. He won't do it considering the amount of times he has threatened. I would definitely cut off and move.

Dibbydoos · 10/01/2024 20:38

Hi @nhbid sending a big hug.

You won't be better off dead, so take that thought and throw it away.

You'd be better off moving, then changing your car/reg mark, getting a sim for your use and stop answering the other sim to anyone you don't know and your DS, tell your employer or change job. Register for everything off public records - voting Council tax utilities etc.

Go enjoy your life. I'm sorry your DS is completely messed up. He sounds like he has mania and yes these ASD meds don't work or turn them into vegetables.

It's so sad when nature gets things wrong, it happens its nit your fault.

Please go live your life from one ASD mum to another xxx

DeMol · 10/01/2024 20:39

nhbid · 10/01/2024 20:28

He has been sectioned in the past yes, but gets out and it all starts again.

How long did his last section last for?

mcmooberry · 10/01/2024 20:39

Am so sorry, friends are going through similar and it's a living hell with no end in sight.

You can't help him, please save yourself. Outrageous that anyone could ever try and make you feel guilty, you have done all you can and haven't caused this.

XX

AcrossthePond55 · 10/01/2024 20:40

@nhbid

I think there comes a time when you must put yourself first, for your own physical safety and mental wellbeing. Yes, even if the person involved is your own child. He either will not or cannot change and you could end up dead either due to his aggression or due to the stress he brings on in you. Google Takotsubo cardiomyopathy for one, but there are other stress induced conditions that can end up fatal.

My DH experienced Takotsubo due to stress (not the same cause as yours though), went into heart failure and was given a 15% chance of survival. Luckily, he did survive but he's been very careful and learned to manage (mostly) his stress. And on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd say his stress causation was a 7 compared to yours being a 10!

May I suggest you get counseling? It may help you see the right actions to take, for yourself. If nothing else it will give you someone to vent to who will know what to say to help you deal with what you are experiencing

PurpleReindeer2 · 10/01/2024 20:41

So sorry to read this OP. It sounds utterly horrific for you. I really hope you can get some support and that your son gets help he desperately needs. You really need time and space between you so you can move on and start to live again. Sectioning him again may achieve this. Womens aid and domestic abuse charities could also offer you support. I really hope you get help soon. xx

fatphalange · 10/01/2024 20:43

RunningJo · 10/01/2024 20:31

Can you speak to a residential home (apologies if that’s not what they're called), where people with the same issues as your son, stay. They may be able to offer some help and advice as to how to deal with him, who best to contact etc?

I hope you can get the help you need. It sounds an awful way to live.
I hope you find someone who is able to help, you shouldn’t be left to deal with this behaviour.

They don't exist. (I assume you're talking about in the UK)

SleepQuest33 · 10/01/2024 20:44

I am so sorry OP! Who cares what the extended family thinks, don’t let them make you feel guilty. What would they do in your shoes?

if he changed dramatically at 13 I wonder if maybe he started taking drugs at that age, I have heard certain cannabis can cause psychosis in young people.
I hate drugs!

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/01/2024 20:46

It sounds like he is currently very unwell. What is he like when he is on his medication? Do you know if he is taking it at the moment? Has he been sectioned at all?

You need to look after yourself. But it sounds as if he is not getting the help he needs which is then putting you in danger.

nhbid · 10/01/2024 20:46

determinedtomakethiswork · 10/01/2024 20:31

So sorry I can't edit that. I mean does his dad…

No, I don't either.

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RunningJo · 10/01/2024 20:46

Don’t they? My mistake. I thought there were such places, where people go for respite?
maybe I’m mistaken & thinking of something else?

DeedlessIndeed · 10/01/2024 20:46

OP, apologies not read all the responses.

I work to support vulnerable adults. Some do use suicide threats as a bargaining chip (as well as a lot of people who are genuinely in need of help.

A few points:

  1. Police are more effective than NHS for MH crises. It's not their job, but if you can Police to say son has left a suicide note, they will carry out a welfare check. If son says it was a false note he will likely get arrested for wasting Police time. If this happens a lot, they are more likely to pursue a conviction.

This could help break the cycle, or at least push another MH assessment and push for sectioning.

  1. Son sounds like a case of self-neglect caused by poor mental health. On these grounds, I would say that he's eligible for an AP1 referral. Contact your local adult social services. He meets the 3 point criteria for support and is entitled to this support if not already in place.

  2. Don't feel guilty. Your son is unwell - chances are you're one of the few people left in his life that still put up with it, so you are the focus. This is not something you can reasonably be expected to deal with. Go low or no contact. Protect yourself, so that you can support your son from afar (or at a later date, once he's received treatment and help).

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/01/2024 20:47

SleepQuest33 · 10/01/2024 20:44

I am so sorry OP! Who cares what the extended family thinks, don’t let them make you feel guilty. What would they do in your shoes?

if he changed dramatically at 13 I wonder if maybe he started taking drugs at that age, I have heard certain cannabis can cause psychosis in young people.
I hate drugs!

It could just be MH issues. Some are precipitated by puberty - especially where there is a paranoid/ psychotic element. Terribly sad and distressing for everyone.