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To think it's tragic if Michael Jackson was indeed innocent

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pregahes · 08/01/2024 21:53

It's a real shame for someone who created incredible music to have their legacy at risk. It’s just tragic, considering the impact his music had on so many. It's tragic either way, if he's guilty for the victims and if he's innocent for himself.

I'm a huge fan and at one point t thought he was guilty but kore recently change of heart. I think there would be more victims if he weee in fact guilty. Somethings doesnt add up.

It's tragic

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ChishiyaBat · 10/01/2024 20:45

nolongersurprised · 10/01/2024 20:26

Watch the interview. He talks about how with one boy he sleeps in a sleeping bag, but does sleep in the bed with others. It’s beautiful and “everyone should do it”.

Watch how he smiles and moistens his lips when the interviewer brings it up.

Eurgh, that is chilling, what a vile man! I remember seeing it when it came out, but I forgot how disgusting he was!
A question for all you defenders, why do you think he's innocent?

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:46

I do genuinely believe that he didn't think it was wrong though, in his own mind.

BayCityCoaster · 10/01/2024 20:48

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:46

I do genuinely believe that he didn't think it was wrong though, in his own mind.

Then that makes him even worse of a human being.

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:50

@BayCityCoaster True. To be so open about it though, he can't have thought it was wrong. Surely you would keep things very hidden? I don't know, just thinking out loud.

Waitingfordoggo · 10/01/2024 20:50

Maybe @StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance. That’s pretty common with pedophiles as far as I know. Makes no difference to his guilt though does it?

I can’t very well start burgling people’s houses and then claim I didn’t know or didn’t think it was wrong. (I mean I can claim that but I expect a judge would laugh at me).

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 20:51

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 10/01/2024 19:43

Blame insinuates that they did something wrong which they didn't.

So I take it you wouldn’t mind your kids jumping into bed with a grown man formerly accused of child sex offences? If no one is doing anything wrong?

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 20:52

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 10/01/2024 19:44

You are WAY out of line for suggesting I don't - how dare you? In this instance I just happen to believe that this particular person wasn't guilty.

You send pedophiles. It’s absolutely accurate to say you don’t give a fuck about abused children

BayCityCoaster · 10/01/2024 20:52

Anyone with an ounce of human decency / empathy / and/or kindness knows it’s wrong.

The possibility that he didn’t, and so went about it in plain sight just makes him an incredibly sub-standard human being.

Not someone to be pitied.

nolongersurprised · 10/01/2024 20:54

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:50

@BayCityCoaster True. To be so open about it though, he can't have thought it was wrong. Surely you would keep things very hidden? I don't know, just thinking out loud.

My feeling is that because so many people saw/knew what was going on and didnt try to stop it he probably felt emboldened/justified in seeing it as a non-crime.

Bearing in mind that he was rich, powerful and there are paedophiles and paedophile-apologists everywhere.

Inkanta · 10/01/2024 20:56

Yes I believe his victims from the Leaving Neverland documentary. Michael Jackson isn't innocent.

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:58

Oh my goodness, I just read an article that had pictures of the book MJ had of the naked boys. I seriously want to gouge my eyes out. I feel sick.

Tourmalines · 10/01/2024 21:01

The name wacko jacko didn’t come from nowhere . He was highly delusional . No way in hell would I have let my son hang around with him back then.

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 21:04

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:14

I started out on this thread believing that MJ was innocent but I have to say that speaking to others on here, especially those who have experienced CSA, it has changed my viewpoint somewhat.

It’s good to hear some good has been done 😊 I think unless you or someone you love has experienced CSA, it can be viewed in a very clinical matter of “Why wouldn’t a child speak up”. It’s always good to educate people on the nuances of grooming (which is almost always prevelant in CSA cases).

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 21:07

@KarenNotAKaren That is very true and I have no experience with CSA and I am truly sorry to those of you who do. There are some vile people out there.

I just read everything that was seized at Neverland. How did this guy get acquitted? I think if Wade Robson and James Safechuck had testified back then, MJ would have gone to prison.

I have no doubt in my mind now after reading what was seized.

Newsenmum · 10/01/2024 21:11

WingingItSince1973 · 10/01/2024 20:28

There is a link on here from yesterday I think that shows the items that were found in his home. I had to stop reading it as it was absolutely disgusting. So please don't say nothing was found like indecent pictures because there were plenty. Sadly a lot of them didn't quite make it over the line of illegal just extremely dodgy if that makes sense.

I didn’t know they’d found things like that :(

Newsenmum · 10/01/2024 21:11

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:58

Oh my goodness, I just read an article that had pictures of the book MJ had of the naked boys. I seriously want to gouge my eyes out. I feel sick.

What??? Why did he go free?

ChishiyaBat · 10/01/2024 21:13

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:46

I do genuinely believe that he didn't think it was wrong though, in his own mind.

Ignorance is no defence! He knew exactly what he was doing in my opinion.

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 21:14

I have no words

www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/

MoreDollies · 10/01/2024 21:14

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:58

Oh my goodness, I just read an article that had pictures of the book MJ had of the naked boys. I seriously want to gouge my eyes out. I feel sick.

I've just seen that the photographer and editor of one of the art books (two different people) are convicted paedophiles. So was literally evidence of CSA dressed up and distributed in a so-called civilised disguise

ChishiyaBat · 10/01/2024 21:16

Eurgh I just read that @StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance what a depraved bastard he was!

nolongersurprised · 10/01/2024 21:17

Newsenmum · 10/01/2024 21:11

What??? Why did he go free?

presumably because it was “art” 🤮.

One of the hills I will die on is that children cannot consent to naked pictures being taken of them, with those pictures disseminated to a wider audience. No matter how arty, no matter how prestigious the photographer, no matter if they’re depicting cherubs or whatever.

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 21:18

@MoreDollies Yes I read that too! They wrote the book under different names as well. I can't get my head around why MJ wasn't convicted

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 21:18

nolongersurprised · 10/01/2024 20:26

Watch the interview. He talks about how with one boy he sleeps in a sleeping bag, but does sleep in the bed with others. It’s beautiful and “everyone should do it”.

Watch how he smiles and moistens his lips when the interviewer brings it up.

That’s such a sinister interview.

It’s a shame Bashir is a colossal cunt because he was brilliant at challenging the nonce.

You can tell the nonce was used to charming people, name dropping about his little friends and talking about the stars in a whispery voice. I bet he wasn’t used to the likes of Bashir who could see right through him

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 21:20

StillStuckInTheShed · 10/01/2024 20:40

Cherubs are depicted naked... in photographs where children pose as them for artworks or paintings they're naked or very near to naked... is that pornography?

Pronograohy implies a willing participant. Depictions of naked children, even ‘cartoon’ pictures are indecent images and illegal

KarenNotAKaren · 10/01/2024 21:21

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 10/01/2024 20:46

I do genuinely believe that he didn't think it was wrong though, in his own mind.

Well that’s the often the hallmark of a pedophile. Look at a PP whose child abuser shook her hand in adulthood. He clearly had no qualms about being in the wrong

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