To think it's tragic if Michael Jackson was indeed innocent

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It's a real shame for someone who created incredible music to have their legacy at risk. It’s just tragic, considering the impact his music had on so many. It's tragic either way, if he's guilty for the victims and if he's innocent for himself.

I'm a huge fan and at one point t thought he was guilty but kore recently change of heart. I think there would be more victims if he weee in fact guilty. Somethings doesnt add up.

It's tragic

Even IF nothing sexual happened, there's so much wrong with all of this. Abuse of power and grooming to name but two. But you carry on saying he knew he wasn't doing anything wrong... Careful, or you may be accused of being a walking red flag yourself

This thread is starting to make me wonder about some of the posters so determinedly asserting MJs innocence.

No I don't know for sure but that's my opinion and other people are making their assumptions!

You’re giving a very good impression of giving an enormous shit.

You seem very invested indeed. Oddly.

So do you!

I think he's a fricking idiot but he did not ask boys to sleep in his bed they jumped in playfully as kids do sometimes and he was too stupid to put boundaries in place.

He was not a stupid man. He was a talented and shrewd businessman, don’t be fooled by the fake affected voice.

Guess what happened to me once. DD had a little friend over for a play date when she was 6. Poor girl ran up to me screaming that her vagina hurt and could I look (turns out poor girl had worms as did my DD!). What do you think I did:

1. Thought “it’s the law the world over that adults must do everything any child asks. I will check!”
2. Told her that wouldn’t be appropriate but I would call her mum to come get her with her being in so much pain.

Now imagine if I’d previously been accused of child sex offences. No one is so stupid that they don’t realise that in that situation ‘saying yes’ would be catastrophic.

What about my other points - having little prepubescent boy friends and treating them like lovers then dumping them once they hit puberty?

He didn't collect pictures of naked boys??

Yes he did. Look it up. One was a photo taken of a naked boy thought to be one of his little ‘friends’

Then the rest is just hanging out with kids because he happened to love kids (not in a sexual way).

I love kids in a non-sexual way. I don’t hold their hands and have them sit on my crotch, or openly groom them. I also don’t have 8 accusations of child molestation against me. Do you? I’ll ask again because you haven’t answered - if this was your neighbour behaving this way (sleeping in a bed with unrelated kids, somehow turned up with a load of babies that clearly weren’t his claiming he’s their dad, only having friends who are kids, holding their hands and having a merry go round of little boys pals) and he suddenly had accusations made against him, would you think “Poor man, he just likes kids!”

And have a think about WHY Jackson liked kids so much. Why would a grown man prefer to hang out with little boys

Seriously some people scare me - people like you are literally the reason nonces get away with crimes.

Hahahaha to paraphrase you "he didn't ask the boys to get into bed with him, they just jumped in playfully and he didn't put boundaries in place". That, my love, is blaming the boys for getting into bed with him

I didn’t say I didn’t - I very much DO give a shit about the grooming and abuse of minors.

Most normal people do?

Blame insinuates that they did something wrong which they didn't.

The whole creepy situation around his ‘children’ (who do these children even belong to?!) - it reminds me of when I worked in child services for the local authority. We got involved with a boy who made accusations against a neighbour. Neighbour was arrested. No indecent images, but you know what he DID have. A full on nursery logged out with a cot, teddies, clothes and blankets. This man did not have any chidlren nor was he expecting a child. He did not know anybody or have family members with a baby.

But hey he was probably wrongly accused right.

You are WAY out of line for suggesting I don't - how dare you? In this instance I just happen to believe that this particular person wasn't guilty.

He wasn't innocent. Hope this helps your feelings.

Wow, just wow.

It was wrong they were in his bed and it was his fault. Give your head a wobble.

Why are you saying you don’t give a shit, then?

You very much do give a shit about defending highly indefensible behaviour.

Even if the kids wanted to sleep in his room/bed, he should have said no and send them back to the guest suite to sleep with their parent.

Don't tell me what I do and don't give a shit about.

I don’t need to - you’re demonstrating it perfectly well yourself on this thread. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@ForTonightGodisaDJ he may well have believed he wasn't doing anything wrong. That's not unheard of in paedophiles. Sometimes they genuinely don't see what they do as wrong, even if society says otherwise. He may have genuinely believed he loved the boys and not have considered he was harming them because he 'loved' them. I watched a documentary some years ago in which a paedophile was interviewed and he pretty much said he didn't see anything wrong with having sex with very much underage girls.
Not thinking he was doing anything wrong (if that was the case) doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything wrong. It just means that he didn't think it was wrong.

Awesome.

Why would it be tragic?? It would be great as meant he didn’t rape children ffs! It’s not like he was put away for it.

They're giving a lot of shit about not giving a shit.

You can 100% see why kids get abused when you read this thread. Lots of pedos are ‘nice’ btw.

I can't believe that they are putting on MJ musical in London, it annoys me that they still play his music on BBC Radio.

And only about Michael Jackson, and not about the long-term impact of his behaviour - regardless of whether he thought it was OK - on all the boys he had for sleepovers.

He had two explanations for the shared bed though, didn’t he.

one was that they wanted to sleep with him (I call bullshit, that’s not how young boys behave with unrelated adults) and the other that it was “pure” and “beautiful”. The latter infers that MJ was the driving force behind the bed-sharing (I mean, of course he was, he was a nounce).