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to object to other parent's vile racist remarks in the nursery playground?

332 replies

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 19:28

We recently moved to a new area and dd (just 3) has started at the nursery attatched to the primary school round the corner. Its on a council estate that has a bit of a 'reputation' but tbh that doesn't bother me, the school is lovely nd small and the staff seem excellent. DD loves it there and is making friends, but I'm having problems with the other parents.

Basically they refuse to speak to me. Its not paranoia, they really do and have done since the first morning when I dropped her off. They just give me dirty looks and don't reply when I say hello. Only one of them acknowledges me, and she runs the local shop so isn't going to be rude to the customers! Its a close community and they all know each other etc etc, and I'm an outsider with a posh accent, pink hair, and a faceful of piercings. I can live with being ignored, but...

Today when we were waiting to go in to drop the dc's off, two of the women started having a conversation about a recent trip one of them had had to make with her ds. She was basically bitching about how carp the treatment was, but then these comments were made:

"The place was full of Asians pretending to have heart attacks so they'd get seen first"

"Next time I go I'll be boot polishing our faces to get better treatment"

"The bloody Arabs want to piss off back home and stop bleeding our hospitals dry"

This was in front of children, and I was furious. I picked up dd and carried her to the other end of the playground to look at the daffodils, and I could feel them (the mothers not the daffodils!) watching me. I felt really uncomfortable, I wanted to say something but tbh I was worried about getting smacked - they are pretty tough aggressive women.

I'm quite ashamed of myself for not having the guts to stand up and say something at the time but didn't want dd to see me get into an argument, or to do it on school grounds. I'm going to put in a complaint to the head tomorrow - is this OTT?

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Notalone · 17/03/2008 19:51

How horrible. Really makes me uncomfortable. Where do you live? I am oop north in a small mining village and have found similar opinions at times sadly. Ignore them and shield your DD from them. You are better than that

KerryMum · 17/03/2008 19:51

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mustsleep · 17/03/2008 19:52

no seriously which school is it?

mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 19:53

It was only a couple of parents nkf, not all of them.
I think advising her to move is ott and the op said she is happy there.
The kids might be alright anyway

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 19:54

We recently moved from just outside Huddersfield to the Midlands. But still what most of our friends (bunch of soft southerners!) term 'up north'!!

KerryMum - my principles can't allow me to let it go unchallenged in some way. I just can't.

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DoodleToYou · 17/03/2008 19:54

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mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 19:55

I agree - it is actually a good opportunity to discuss why what these women were saying is wrong.
Don't worry- I am sure that this isn't the norm in the school.

nkf · 17/03/2008 19:55

But it's a whole group of parents who sneer at her and the school has a bad reputation. Each to their own but it doesn't sound much cop to me.

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 19:57

Not going to name the school on here.

I am very happy with how dd is getting on there, its only got 120 pupils and the staff know them all, they are lovely. I've no intention of moving her, its the nearest school and IMO its where she should be. If there are problems with it, I'd rather tackle them and make the school a better place, than find one thats considered 'better'

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mustsleep · 17/03/2008 19:58

i'm sure it's the same school that ds goes to!!

mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 19:58

grim- why don't you join the PTA and use that to channel opinions that challenge these women?

mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 20:00

And I think it's great you've found a school both you and dd are happy with.
It sounds like a nice school, and these views would be completely unacceptable inside the classroom

chickytwotimes · 17/03/2008 20:01

Good on you, Grim!

Desiderata · 17/03/2008 20:03

Incitement to racial hatred, eh?

It was an overhead conversation by a couple of mothers. It is a sentiment I have heard many times, from many different people.

What would you do with all these people, QueenMother? Have them locked up?

I really do think some perspective is called for on the whole subject of racism.

mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 20:03

Can I also say I think your attitude is great.

PuppyMonkey · 17/03/2008 20:04

Hmm. It's not the EAST Midlands where you live by any chance is it grim?

mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 20:05

I don't think a private conversation can be considered racial incitement.

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 20:06

Eek! But yes I could join PTA actually - as we've only just moved I've not got round to that sort of thing, been knee deep in boxes for weeks!

I know that what happens at home is the most important influence on children, but school should be a place where adults behave with a bit of respect IMO.

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lou33 · 17/03/2008 20:07

they sound like they have given you the perfect opportunity to have nothing to do with them ever again

i'd rather be ignored and an outcast than have to involve myself with idiots like that

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 20:08

But a conversation conducted at school very loudly indeed? I wasn't listening in, I was stood 10 foot away talking to dd. They were practically shouting about it, looking round for approval and laughs.

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mrsruffallo · 17/03/2008 20:09

They sound like a bunch of idiots but it is not illegal or incitement to racial hatred, sorry

lou33 · 17/03/2008 20:09

it's depressing isnt it?

sadly there are a lot of people like that about

WanderingTrolley · 17/03/2008 20:11

I applaud your principles, but you will be changing your name to batteredupnorth if you get involved with these women.

Pick your battles.

TheQueenMother · 17/03/2008 20:11

PERSPECTIVE on the subject of racism desiderate? really? so what, can I call someone a paki and it;s all right, because they just need to 'get some perspective'? How can you defend it? Or are you saying you're racist and you think it's ok?

I really think why tf should the OP have to move or in any way change her views when OTHER people are being racist and vile? THEY are the ones that should be censored and shut tf up.

grimupnorth · 17/03/2008 20:12

well, illegal maybe not, and even I can see that the police would be way OTT. But revolting, immoral, despicable ignorance.

If there was even one of them who I thought would back me up I'd say something myself, but I know what would happen. They'd all get arsey with the posh hippy.

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