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Wife is the higher earner

308 replies

Notsureanymorepri · 06/01/2024 15:03

Husband has a decent salary (£70k gross), in the last 2 years my income has grown to 500-600k (mainly due to variable compensation) from around 110-130k. we have always split all expenses 50-50 and kept our finances separated. we have a relatively frugal lifestyle. No debt, mortgage paid off. The cost of nursery where we live in London is £2.4K/month for our only child and due to brexit he may have lost 10 years of pension contributions abroad so is in catch up mode and I agree this is a priority. he now feels under financial pressure at the prospect of booking holidays and did not sleep for days when we found out that the results of the state school we were aiming for have plummeted and we MAY need to consider private as an option in 2 years…i have spoken about me paying for the holidays or me contributing more to the joint account but he doesn’t seem keen. What options could I suggest to make it seem fair that we adjust our lifestyle a little bit if reasonably affordable at household income level without making him feel bad about himself (I am proud of his career and he does have an important job) please?

OP posts:
WingsofRain · 06/01/2024 18:37

As a person who earns £11k a year and whose partner is on state pension plus considerably less than me self employed because he can’t afford to retire, I’m just open mouthed at this.

I don’t know what to say, you both earn so unbelievably much it seems irrelevant who earns what, to be honest.

HamBone · 06/01/2024 18:37

SuchAScaredMumma · 06/01/2024 18:33

You need to put everything you both earn into a joint account. Pension, bills, holiday, school fees, etc. all comes out of that account and then you both get equal spending money. It sucks a little for the higher earner, but the benefit out ways the tiny stipend IMO. I earn more (about double) and we do the same - we get £100 a month to spend on whatever we like but it means I get to enjoy the same lifestyle with my husband rather than having money with nothing to do!

@SuchAScaredMumma With the OP’s income though, putting everything into a joint account doesn’t make sense though, it would just sit there doing nothing.

As this income level is new to her, she should probably seek some financial advice and start an investment portfolio. Find out what she can invest for her child’s future, see whether she can top up her DH’s pension, etc.

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:39

WingsofRain · 06/01/2024 18:37

As a person who earns £11k a year and whose partner is on state pension plus considerably less than me self employed because he can’t afford to retire, I’m just open mouthed at this.

I don’t know what to say, you both earn so unbelievably much it seems irrelevant who earns what, to be honest.

Exactly.
I'll tell you what you can do with that vast amount of money, donate at least 200k a year to charity. There are people starving and living on the street while you earn this grotesque amount of money, what on earth do you do with it all??

AlpacinoAlpaca · 06/01/2024 18:40

What options could I suggest to make it seem fair that we adjust our lifestyle a little bit if reasonably affordable at household income level without making him feel bad about himself (I am proud of his career and he does have an important job) please?

You signed a partnership agreement when you married. For better or worse, from this day forward. You are a team are you not?

Then act like a team. Pool your financial resources and use your currencies to make and build your lives together. You bring different things to the table, regardless of your earnings powers. Focus on those.

The law agrees with me.

Sd1960 · 06/01/2024 18:40

Ffs. Boo hoo, how will you make ends meet? You probably don’t know where your next meal is coming from. Have you the slightest idea of how most people in this country struggle every week and month. Next time just post a redacted copy of your bank statement so we can all see how fantastic you are.

Epli · 06/01/2024 18:41

500k???? Ltb and marry me!

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 06/01/2024 18:42

noworklifebalance · 06/01/2024 18:29

@Notsureanymorepri
Ignore the jealous and bitter comments.
Well done on your salary increase!

As PPs have suggested either pool your resources into one pot or put proportional amounts into the family spend. Ensure you have savings/pensions esp if you income is not guaranteed.

Not at all jealous or bitter. I'm also not stupid/self absorbed enough to post things like this when I know so many people are struggling.

There was no need at all for the OP to mention the amounts if she was genuinely just posting about how to deal with her DH struggling with her earning more than him

daisychain01 · 06/01/2024 18:44

What the heck are you quibbling over if he's earning £70k and you're on £500k. Between you in your marriage, you're earning more in a year than most families hope to earn in 15 years.

Ffs, life's just way too short.

Possiblypossible · 06/01/2024 18:45

Money’s a funny thing. I come from a very wealthy family and had a flat bought for me without a mortgage in London 5 years before I met my DH. This is as well as having had investments put in my name and money now being passed over as my parents are aging.

My husband and I run a business (I created it, DH had a highly paid job elsewhere until it made more sense financially for him to join me). I do really I expect the business to fund our lifestyle including 3 kids at private school as well as a strong saving schedule and that DH is a full part of making that happen. This is even though we have the back up that means our kids would never have to come out of the school etc if things did go spectacularly wrong, and obvs that would always be a priority over anything else. However, I would loathe it if he copped out and just thought we could use what was given to me to fund life. I never have thought like that. Why should he?!

Flamesatmytoes · 06/01/2024 18:45

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:39

Exactly.
I'll tell you what you can do with that vast amount of money, donate at least 200k a year to charity. There are people starving and living on the street while you earn this grotesque amount of money, what on earth do you do with it all??

Don’t you have any imagination? You do know she pays enough tax to be supporting many of the people on MN, right?

alcohole · 06/01/2024 18:45

3 points from me:

-you need to tell us the whole journey to reach that salary! Incredible

-your salary is significantly higher than his so 50/50 does not work. You earn 8.5x more than he does. It’s just not comparable.

-you’re placing too much thought into this. Why do you need permission from him to pay for holidays or to contribute more? What would happen if you just increased the amount of your regular payments into the joint account? Or if you send a large lump sum? Would he really refuse to use that account to pay bills? Would the world end?

HamBone · 06/01/2024 18:47

@0sci You do realize that her marginal tax rate will be close to 50%, plus NI contributions.

If this is sales commission, she isn’t earning this amount every year. You sound as if you want to punish her for being very good at her job.

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:48

HamBone · 06/01/2024 18:47

@0sci You do realize that her marginal tax rate will be close to 50%, plus NI contributions.

If this is sales commission, she isn’t earning this amount every year. You sound as if you want to punish her for being very good at her job.

No I just want to live in a fairer society.

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:49

A fairer society where there aren't some people earning so much they can buy two houses a year while others don't have enough to eat

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:50

And not because they don't work but because they work full time and take home 1500 and their rent is 1100

Sususudio · 06/01/2024 18:50

Oh no, the tedious "give it to charity" and "tiny violin" comments. MN really hates high earners, and especially women who are high earners.

squigglygiggly · 06/01/2024 18:50

@Osci
I'll tell you what you can do with that vast amount of money, donate at least 200k a year to charity. There are people starving and living on the street while you earn this grotesque amount of money, what on earth do you do with it all??
Do you really want to know or are you happier living in the bitter bubble.

Our property costs about £250k a year. That's all the regular stuff plus a full time gardener and housekeeper as we have a big property.

The tennis court needs resurfacing and the pool house needs an overhaul but as this will all add up to around £45k we are not able to do it right now.

School fees for 4 were around £50k each per year. That's £150k if you are struggling with the maths.

These are net sums so earning had to be around 40% more to cover these.

Are these luxuries? Of course they are. Im sorry you can't imagine this life. It doesn't seem extreme to me when around me are people earning multiples if what we do.

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:50

Because they didn't have all the privilege that these people have

HamBone · 06/01/2024 18:53

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:48

No I just want to live in a fairer society.

@0sci Yes, that’s why she’s taxed at such a high marginal rate-over £200K in taxes will go into the communal pot.

Of course she could make charitable contributions as well.

0sci · 06/01/2024 18:53

*Do you really want to know or are you happier living in the bitter bubble.

Our property costs about £250k a year. That's all the regular stuff plus a full time gardener and housekeeper as we have a big property.

The tennis court needs resurfacing and the pool house needs an overhaul but as this will all add up to around £45k we are not able to do it right now.

School fees for 4 were around £50k each per year. That's £150k if you are struggling with the maths.

These are net sums so earning had to be around 40% more to cover these.

Are these luxuries? Of course they are. Im sorry you can't imagine this life. It doesn't seem extreme to me when around me are people earning multiples if what we do.*

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Flamesatmytoes · 06/01/2024 18:57

School fees for 4 were around £50k each per year. That's £150k if you are struggling with the maths.

I’m struggling with ^ this maths 😄

Tinselunderthetv · 06/01/2024 18:57

OP some schools allow you to pre pay fees, I also have a high sales income. My colleague negotiated a 40% discount to pre pay 5 years. In your shoes I would do that. Also a good accountant will be able to offset fees somewhat

5128gap · 06/01/2024 18:57

"DH, I don't earn £600k a year to sit here penny pinching, going without holidays and faffing about with school league tables. In case you hadn't noticed, I earn more than most people ever dream of. We can go on holiday every month if we want and it would barely touch the sides. So pack your speedos, put a smile on it and thank your lucky stars that you're married to me!"

Mirabai · 06/01/2024 18:59

If you think you might have to go private and your income is not guaranteed then bank 500k from your last 2 year’s income so if it comes to it you’ve got 2 x secondary school fees covered. (You don’t say how many kids you have).

Snowdogsmitten · 06/01/2024 19:00

Quitelikeit · 06/01/2024 15:15

Gosh I think it’s appalling that you earn all you do and expect him to pay half of everything!

How on earth is that fair?

And believe me on a salary of 70k you cannot afford half of the bills and half of the fees for private school

If you had half a brain you would understand this in a nano second

I think it’s appalling how posters lack comprehension when reading OPs.

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