Can anyone explain to me why some people feel so passionate about hating Harry and Meghan, or vice versa?

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Why do people love Harry and Meghan and Hate William and Catherine so strongly. or the other way round?

I don't mean - what is their stated rationale for it, I mean what kind of psychology is behind this massive investment in total strangers?

The Dianna public grieving was a strange time, but it at least made sense - death of someone in the prime of her life, a huge loss to her family.

But why are some members of the general public so invested in picking sides in a family feud?

It’s funny how so many people have said that H&M preach about the environment while taking flights on private jets, yet not one person has mentioned William or Charles who take far more flights on private jets and helicopters and do a lot more preaching. It just goes to show how many people digest the headlines in the Daily Fail and Daily Express, listen to Piers Morgan and Dan Wootton and do no thinking for themselves.

H&M don't have to go anywhere or do anything but the gutter press will write about 7-10 fictional articles a day which idiots will lap up and take as gospel. It’s laughable really.

I like Harry and Meghan. I admire Harry for standing up for what he believed in and removing his family from a toxic situation. The rest of them can get in the bin. Who would want to spend anytime, or allow their children to spend time, with Prince Andrew? I can’t respect people who do that.

some people are just bullies. they pick a target and just run with it.
they then like on here cyber bully Meghan.

@TheFairyCaravan well said.

And you know them personally do you?

I think most people hate H and M because they called out the racism of the monarchy and people don’t like to be confronted with that. To them the idea that the British Monarchy (which was a driving force in the transatlantic slave trade I might add) is abhorrent and absurd.

For H&M to talk about it means that others have to be confronted with their own micro aggressions, prejudices , stereotypes and racism. That’s just one reason people don’t like them.

Other reasons: People consume biased media without any ounce of critical thinking. Ie, they don’t think ‘what does a newspaper currently at court with H&M have to gain by printing nasty articles about them?’

People blindly follow what is printed. If an article came out tomorrow saying that M punched Kate people would believe it in a heartbeat.

Another reason: People are very much happy to blame a woman for most things. Harry abdicating - Megan’s fault obvs.

Another reason: It suits the British Monarchy to have people think favourably of the future king and queen - even to the expense of other family members. We know that the monarchy have given print media information about articles. Interesting that they see nasty articles about H&M and let that run. Yet on the flip side most articles about K&W are glowing with negative ones quickly shut down.

Theres a myriad of reasons why people don’t like H&M. What I think is fascinating is how people can strongly hate them without actually knowing them - the hate is purely from gossip magazines that they read.

I think it soothes the British public to have someone to collectively hate. But it also demonstrates their poisonous ingrained racism.

A large section of the British public was always going to dislike her. She’s a mixed race woman of black heritage, people are already predisposed to see blackness as inferior and here she was marrying into an institution they largely respect, feel protective of and some class as superior to themselves. Even so most people aren’t bad people, so don’t like to acknowledge that they are bigoted. In the case of white people in particular, most don’t want to have other white people think that they are racist. Hence some of the early posturing.

The press meanwhile were milking their new money cow for all she was worth. As more negative stories came out, average Brits were able to breathe a collective side of relief, and pretend that their initial and immediate dislike was neither irrational nor racist and was somehow justified. At this point, she’s always in the press, and is always being talked about. This topic guarantees social interaction so they regurgitate article number 802,638 or whatever Aunt Emma said at tea, which is more likely negative than not, and others respond by engaging with the bullying or call it out. I do also think it’s worse than it would have been without the so called culture wars.

Tbh I’m surprised MN haven’t banned threads about her.

I think most people hate H and M because they called out the racism of the monarchy and people don’t like to be confronted with

I don’t think they did. Harry was very clear neither him or Megan felt they were racist, they said a conscious bias. And many people dispute asking the colour of a child’s skin is a racist question. But even Harry and Megan can’t agree on what happened and gave different views of the event

@Bernieee Great post.

I can see defenders of the Royal Family and those that abhor H&M are here with their sarcasm to other posters

You seem very angry. Are you OK? and that sort of thing.
There is no need for it.

So they haven't lied, no?

They haven't thrown their friends and family under the bus?

They haven't made up stories about Kate?

They haven't try to overshadow RF events and announcements?

They were't absolutely vile in their behaviour and actions to the Queen?

And all this went on before the court cases suing the press.

🤔🙄

Tbh I’m surprised MN haven’t banned threads about her

They did. For about 3 months. Years ago. When they were so hateful and stretched moderation capabilities.
It was very peaceful on here.

Its very tiresome seeing every post calling their behaviour into question labelled as racist. Get a new insult, its lazy and boring now.

It is one way of explaining the unwarranted hate of her.

As I said before, it started in 2017. There was no reason for there to be so many vile threads about her back then.

There will always be racists and some of the articles printed about Meghan in the Mail were so offensive I don't know how they are legal. They're still available online. Disgraceful.

I do think, though, that the public in general liked her initially and were happy for them both. They got plenty of viewers and well wishers for their wedding. I think that Meghan lost a lot of public support on Oprah when she complained about the "spectacle" and tried to minimise it saying that the private ceremony they'd had was more important and speaking about it as if they'd actually got married beforehand. It forced the Archbishop to respond and confirm that no, he hadn't actually carried out an illegal ceremony.

I don't think she was wrong to feel that way, but it was a huge misstep to say it publicly - the irony of going on Oprah to talk about how important something was because people didn't know about it! And it made a lot of people who had truly enjoyed watching them get married feel like it had been thrown back at them.

It seems to always come down to people must be racist if they don’t like their behaviour. It’s really offensive.

Well it is because H and M have publicly embarrased their family and the Queen for money, knowing they cannot reply.

I was a fan of M when she came into the royal family and hoped the marriage was to be a success, she seemed to bring a lot an independent, seemingly intelligent mixed race woman..etc..it was heart warming to see Prince Charles walk her down the aisle, and chat to her mother Doria outside Westminster cathedral.
They were welcomed and their marriage celebrated on a world stage.

Even when they decided the UK was not for them, most respected their right to choose their own life, even if sad to see them go, l wished them the best at this point.

However then they decided they had a whole host of grievances which they proceeded to air in the most crass way via Oprah and other channels, discussing ugly personal issues that should have not been made public.
Personal family issues are not something l want to hear about in the news, but it is particularly ugly as they are members of the Royal family and it is completely out of order and ignorant.
This was done to earn money, how awful to air your dirty laundry to earn money, causing you brother, sister in law, and other family members much pain.

The book was the winging, wining tome of a spoilt brat who really should shut up.

This is why op

Where do you get I’m angry from? Get a grip.

You see the images they want you to see. Charles took 20 helicopter flights, in 2022, to avoid being caught in traffic.

Last year the Royals spent £2m on flights on private jets. The King even flew on a private jet when he went to Cop28. But keep whining about what H&M do.

I'm not interested in any of them really but I thought this was spot on

I think the addictive nature of social media means that people often act more passionate and obsessed online than they actually are in their real lives.

Of course you do get some RF obsessives but true obsessive types are pretty rare I think.

People are easily manipulated in to seeing William and Kate as good and Harry and Meghan as bad
You only have to go on he Royal family board the same posters again and again wiill ,pick on anything H&M have said or done to find a negative

Ahh a classic example

@ItAintGonnaGoDownEasyIfItAintCheezy so sorry to break it to you, but you don’t know these people - and they don’t know you either.

For some reason, people think they can debate the ins and outs of people they don’t know. And speak about events they didn’t attend?? 😂

Respectfully, I’m not doing to debate about who’s lying and who’s not. Because like a balanced individual, I recognise that I wasn’t there and you cannot trust gossip mags and I peacefully move on with my life.

When it comes to H&M and K&W, I just think…who knows what actually went down? I don’t dislike either of them because I don’t know the facts and then I just go on my merry way. I have no ill will to any of them as it’s all he said she said and we’ll just never know.

I suggest you do the same…

I certainly don’t hate H & M and have been appalled at the racist media.

I have always believed there were cultural clashes e.g. UK vs US, misunderstandings e.g. celebrity vs royalty but keep coming back to a fundamental question as to why H did not explain things to M.

I support H taking the media to court, they are racist, misogynistic and homophobic and have destroyed countless lives.

However, H & M chose to do Oprah, Netflix and write Spare, contribute to Finding Freedom etc. Sadly this has backfired because there is evidence they were not factually accurate.

Watching Oprah I knew M had misunderstood why any children would not be Prince/Princess until Charles became King and that had nothing to do with racism. I knew the “wedding” was a blessing and understood why they would want that for them but to portray it as a gotcha that ha we didn’t really get married in StGeorges Chapel is likely to wind people up.

Then you have the denials over Finding Freedom overturned by M having to apologise to the Judge for “forgetting” she had helped.

I actually think they have been very naive and mistaking the huge public welcome they received e.g. in Australia, to think M was the second Diana and somehow they should become more important than C&C and W&K.

I still keep coming back to why did H not tell M how the RF worked behind the scenes. I know it may be because he didn’t think she would marry him but after they were married?

There is also the allegations of racism - M chose to put this into the public domain in a very vague and confused way. H & M could have clarified this in Netflix or Spare but chose not to. Endgame has really backfired on H & M.

The RF have actually been very sensible. The statement was perfect at shutting down the media. The never explain never complain mantra has shown to be an effective approach.

Sadly the media make ££££ out of conflict and H & M have helped them to make £££ so are seen as a cash cow which is why they jump on everything H & M do.

this kind of proves my earlier post. the childish bullying name calling.

There's some really batshit stuff on social media about them and people who aren't great at critical thinking lap it up and think it's all true (like the children not being real, or Meghan using a surrogate despite seeing how her face changed during pregnancy).

As PP said above, people like joining teams, and the media is great at pitting one woman against another. They did it to Diana and Fergie too.

It mostly comes down to a lack of critical thinking and ties into the "I'm tired of experts" mentality that seems to be driving much of society right now.

The book was the winging, wining tome of a spoilt brat who really should shut up

Did you read it all the way through?

I'm not interested in debating either, there's nothing to debate. this is all based on their own actions and what has come out of thier own mouths.

Delude yourself all you want, if you want to blindly believe the sun shines out their arses, but unfortunately for you, the facts tell a different story.

Enjoy your day 😄

Do you actually believe the utter nonsense you have written. You are a poor sap lapping up pap bullshit.