Can anyone explain to me why some people feel so passionate about hating Harry and Meghan, or vice versa?

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Why do people love Harry and Meghan and Hate William and Catherine so strongly. or the other way round?

I don't mean - what is their stated rationale for it, I mean what kind of psychology is behind this massive investment in total strangers?

The Dianna public grieving was a strange time, but it at least made sense - death of someone in the prime of her life, a huge loss to her family.

But why are some members of the general public so invested in picking sides in a family feud?

Do you think money brings you happiness? His parents had a terribly acrimonious divorce which played out publicly. His mother then died when he was a child. He was the sent back off to boarding school whilst still grieving.

Most of us wouldn't choose money over that.

It's a distraction.

It's a mechanism/medium to express something emotional otherwise unexpressed (lots of theories about this in relation to the grief around Diana's death).

Some people were brought up to gossip, it's the biggest gossip topic around currently.

I read Spare, and have some sympathy for Harry. I remember how badly the media treated his mother in the nineties, and I understand why he doesn't like them. In turn, they're unscrupulous about attacking him in order to make money. It was very noticeable recently how, when he won a court victory against the Mirror, hardly any newspapers reported it, but instead carried on with mean-spirited stories which were then picked up by the public.

As for Meghan - my impression from Spare was that she wouldn't have looked twice at Harry if he hadn't been a prince. That's what she's after. She'll be behind most of the publicity seeking and bad decisions. But I don't have a strong opinion about her, or any of the Royals.

First respond pretty much sums it up.

The RF wanted to shield the boys and keep them at Balmoral.

Politicians and the public pressured the royals in being more publicly visible rather than grieve privately. Being away was touted as being cold and uncaring.

I don't "hate" H & M but I do think they are massive hypocrites- wanting to be fully independent but still wanting royal money to fund them, lecturing us about the environment and then taking private jets everywhere- it just comes across as patronising and hypocritical and I think most people wouldnt see that as a positive thing.

People love to have a woman to hate. Kate was maligned before Meghan arrived (remember how outraged people were when she missed the Irish Guard Parade in St Patrick's Day because she was getting her hair done?) and then, once M was on the scene, people pretended they adored K. They still pretend, in order to 'stick it to Meghan'.

It's pathetic.

And they say nothing about the likes of Charles,the Queen and her mum being best friends with Savile when there is no way, with the likes of MI6 investigating everyone in their circle, that they didn't know about him. Savile admitted bringing a young girl to the Palace and Philip was a witness to this. And still they cosied up to him.

Or Andrew, the rapist and procurer of sex trafficking victims. Or W and K who happily sit and walk by his side.

The whole family is rotten but let's hate the mixed race woman and the man who left.

@BoohooWoohoo "Politicians and the public pressured the royals in being more publicly visible rather than grieve privately. Being away was touted as being cold and uncaring."

There was a lot of pressure for the Queen in particular to come back to London. I can't remember any public demands for the boys to walk behind the coffin. That was pure "raw meat for the gallery"

@FinallyFinalGirl it's not about hating the mixed race woman and man who left necessarily but the other players in the RF have done it for a long time and sort of earned their stripes for want of a better way of putting it. Prince Andrew of course deserves a lot more hate than Harry and Megan but then again he isn't on a mission to become world super famous so isn't releasing press missives left right and centre and bombarding the media thereby asking us to have an opinion either way.

It's handm's obsession with staying in the public eye that has caused the backlash, that and the hypocrisy... and the whining... and the cutting themselves off from family.... etc.

I have never got the adoration for the RF at all. Never a particular fan of the Queen, definitely have low expectations of the new King.

Harry is out of his depth and now he doesn’t have a strong PR team it’s showing that he is out of touch with reality a bit. The only thing that really irks me about Meghan is that she seems to think that we (the plebs) need to listen to her incredible insight, but it’s all just waffle. Other than that she is just being treated the same
as Fergie.

William is clearly very hurt at the situation , but I get the impression he is not particularly good at expressing his feelings in a reasonable way. Catherine has learned just to keep her mouth shut and get on with it. Bit boring but better that then draw attention to yourself.

Daily Mail + Piers Morgan

Thank you, really interesting!

I didn't ask on the royal board because it's so polarised and I didn't want to hear more of the same heated opinions, just wanted to talk about the phenomenon of being so invested.

It's incredible the extent to which the press have influenced public feeling. Some people really are sheep.

Hate and love are very strong words. I doubt many people feel those extremes. More likely they dislike the image harry and Megan portray and their actions, whilst viewing William and Kate positively for their brand and actions.

if you mean the discussions on here, it is simply a discussion, but people dislike intently the continued attacks, the dishonestly, the breaching of others privacy, the doing it for money, and the negativity, that Megan and Harry have made their brand, it is really quite shocking how they have behaved to and treated the royal family.

on the flip side, the royals themselves have behaved with a quiet smiley dignity, and cracked on with the job.

Have you thought about maybe taking up knitting or something more productive?

What I find really weird is how much people hate Harry and Meghan when, whatever they do that annoys people so much, it doesn’t actually affect their lives (or anyone else’s) at all. I tend to reserve my ire for people whose actions actually materially affect others - like politicians…

Those people in the UK who hate Meghan are generally racists.

Most of the posters who have defended her in the past her aren't even fans of Meghan, just horrified by the extreme obsessive hate (and the frequent overt racial abuse) that has been aimed at Meghan on this forum ever since they first started dating. It's not a two-way thing, lovers and haters. It's entirely one-sided, hate and people horrified by hate

This sums me up. I was shocked from day one 2017 and the threads back then vilifying her for absolutely no reason whatsoever. The common theme was "there's something about her I don't like". That says it all. Unwarranted hate.
And it's never stopped. Just increased. As a PP said... they get more hate than serial killers.

I don't think people hate any of them. Far too extreme an emotion.

I dislike H&M because of their behaviour but I don't hate them, that would be daft.

🙌Preach! 🙌

For the same reason people ever care about stuff that doesn't touch them personally - because it is proxy way of expressing things they think do matter.

Personally, what a pp saw as 'vapid California' morals reads to me as Meghan and Harry caring about the things I do, while being limited by their context and environment. We all are, but not many of us have the daily mail demanding our head on a pike if we so much as mention global warming.

I understand that that perception is about me rather than people I will never meet though. And that's the same for everyone posting on these threads.

And yes, also racism.

Brainwashing via the media

A working royal absolutely can't do whatever, whenever. As a child he lived through his parents' world famous, messy, affair-ridden divorce, his mother's untimely and unnatural death and had to walk before her coffin in front of global press. He was under constant press attention. His first love ended the relationship because she couldn't stand it.

He's hugely rich, yes, and that's a great privilege, but I can absolutely see why he was still unhappy. He and Meghan have gone about it all wrong, though. The levels of hate are unwarranted but I don't much like them now although I used to.

I think W&K are a bit dull but do a good job in the role expected of the . H&M is like watching a cat crash in motion. I just ask myself who is advising them. They seem to make bad decision after bad decision . Where are their PR people. That's actually the part that fascinates me the most.

I love the frocks - originally preferred Meghan royal style than Kate's but not really liking some of the new wardrobe while I think Kate has upped her game somewhat .

It's not a competition. William was 15. I think making those boys walk behind that coffin was child abuse. No wonder they're screwed up.
People who have more contempt for H&M than Andrew baffle me. His mother paid £12 million quid to keep him out of trouble and now he's trying to smarm his way back into public life. He should be in prison. Especially after yesterday's revelations.
What's happened to Dan Wooton? That's all gone very quiet...