Can anyone explain to me why some people feel so passionate about hating Harry and Meghan, or vice versa?

[whyptho]

Why do people love Harry and Meghan and Hate William and Catherine so strongly. or the other way round?

I don't mean - what is their stated rationale for it, I mean what kind of psychology is behind this massive investment in total strangers?

The Dianna public grieving was a strange time, but it at least made sense - death of someone in the prime of her life, a huge loss to her family.

But why are some members of the general public so invested in picking sides in a family feud?

Yes, when I was called a cunt on here for defending Meghan against racist slurs, MN were quick to delete it.

Thats awful! I hope the poster was banned

Yes they are very good at deleting personal attacks and any attempts to bully.

Really? My post here clearly wasn't bullying, and neither was my post in the thread you're referring to. It's a really low blow to insinuate things that happened on other threads, imply that I'm a bully who is "stalking" you", then get my factual thread saying "no actually this is what happened" deleted on the grounds that it's "derailing" to mention things that happened in other threads, when you're the one who brought up that other thread in the first place!

Me posting "I've never seen so-and-so post anything nice about anyone" is clearly not on a par with posts saying "AppleCrispMacchiato is a stupid cunt."

I'm sure most posters are intelligent enough to be able to tell the difference between someone actively following you around (eg, every time you post under a specific username, even if it's a very innocuous thread about gardening, or what you're having for tea, you get attacked, but it never happens when you post under different usernames) and coming into a longrunning thread to post a string of abusive personal comments and name-calling and getting rebuked by posters who were already on that thread before you.

And no, Mumsnet evidently don't delete bullying. Evidently.

Okay I'm leaving the thread, it's obviously the only way to stop the bullies from targeting me, since the abuse is now spilling onto other unrelated threads and it's not fair to posters on those other threads.

Don't go. I know what it's like, believe me, take a break and come back

I felt that about Catherine talking about mental health though - the whole, there is help out there, ask for it thing. Help can be very difficult to get, and usually has a long waiting list.

(Or you get offered useless advice like try mindfulness when everything is falling apart and you're being physically attacked by your autistic child every day, to the point of trips to A&E and neighbours calling the police.)

@Alltheprettyseahorses

"Except that wasn't the RF's plan. Kate and William don't want to do much (if anything) until their children are grown so Meghan and Harry were supposed to cover for them, take extra engagements and duties despite having smaller children of their own. There's an on-going crisis, much-discussed in the media, of the RF not having enough working members to cover engagements and the heir and his wife definitely aren't pulling their weight which will be an impossible habit to break."

Can you link to your source for these claims please. I've never heard that H&M were expected to take on extra duties.

Meghan did 72 days as a working Royal, so what extra duties did she do? What extra duties did Harry do? They did the tour of Australia & Fiji, then a visit to South Africa - but that's not more than any other Royals.

Meghan rightly was on maternity leave for much of her time as a Senior Royal. As any new mother should be.

I'd be interested to know what data your claims are based on.

It’s a Catch 22 really - the RF are not like us and cannot pretend to be like us. So when they are doing advocacy work they’re speaking from a place of privilege that few of us can identify with.

Also - totally seperate issue but getting on my soap box because it makes me so cross - Talking about MH issues is not a solution for everyone. Sometimes the solution is “I am being abused at home and need to leave to take my children to a suitable home, with enough money in the bank to survive”. No amount of talking can solve that issue which would immediately solve someone’s MH issue

So when they are doing advocacy work they’re speaking from a place of privilege that few of us can identify with

So what's the point of them 'doing advocacy' then?

In this case it was that they made it sound easy to get help if you ask - no recognition that NHS mental health services are in crisis. But they probably can't mention that as it would be too political, but without that what they say is meaningless because that help isn't there.

And yes, sometimes the problem is largely down to the circumstances. I didn't need to be told to try mindfulness, my child needs mental health support (turned down repeatedly), what DH and I need is training in safe restraint techniques (waiting, and have been for a year now).

Meghan and Harry left for California when their first child was very small and before their second child was even conceived. So not sure where you came up with the idea that they were supposed to cover for W & K even though they had even smaller children of their own?

The Queen has got some flak for putting her royal duties before her children, as has Charles, but now William is getting flak for putting his children first. They just can't win!

So sorry to hear that, the Tories have seriously stiffed the NHS. And yes the tone deafness of the RF reaches so far and wide. I really do wish they’d all just stick to kissing babies and cutting ribbons. I can tolerate that but I don’t need advice on someone with private healthcare and a flurry of staff and insurmountable wealth to tell me how to be less depressed.

I agree, it’s fine for them to prioritise their children. The Wales’s seem like a warm and loving family who are very close - as do the Sussexes. I can’t see any of the kids being shipped off to boarding school. I always thought the dynamic between the Queen and her children was very cold and distant. I’m guessing these people have learnt from generational mistakes.

Dunno OP. No one in my rl gives a toss either way.

I find it equally baffling that after 35,760 threads about MM and PH, and welcome periods of calm, someone always needs to pipe up with a wide-eyed "Why, oh why, do people hate Meghan Markle so?"

And no, it doesn't matter how the subject is introduced - "Who Else Just LOVES Meghan Like MEEE?!" - there is only ever one point to it, isn't there?