Can anyone explain to me why some people feel so passionate about hating Harry and Meghan, or vice versa?

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Why do people love Harry and Meghan and Hate William and Catherine so strongly. or the other way round?

I don't mean - what is their stated rationale for it, I mean what kind of psychology is behind this massive investment in total strangers?

The Dianna public grieving was a strange time, but it at least made sense - death of someone in the prime of her life, a huge loss to her family.

But why are some members of the general public so invested in picking sides in a family feud?

I only know one person in real life who has strong opinions about any of the royals. Everyone else, including me, couldn't care less. Sometimes there's a nice photo and/or outfit that you take an interest in but apart from that, meh.

HowevermMost of my friends were mystified by the bizarre behaviour of the British press and (what appeared to be) vast swathes of the public when Diana died too. Maybe it was because we were teenagers and therefore selfish at the best of times anyway? Who knows.

Yes. That was not my point. Quite obviously.

Andrew in all the finery, Harry in a suit. Both non working Royals, and IMO one has disgraced the RF and his name doesn't begin with H

yet it seems that writing a book and so on is worse than what andrew has done. the excuses are made as we see here. its so weird.

I quite enjoy following the Royals (guess I find the drama fun from afar).

I neither hate nor love H&M or W&K.

Will and Kate seem perfectly pleasant, a little boring, very dedicated to their roles and very good at it.

Harry I feel sorry for, as he seems so damaged from his mother’s death (as you would expect) and from his upbringing. I think he resents his father a lot, and it does seem that be Charles was probably a bit distant and not always the greatest dad. However, I also don’t think Harry is helping himself these days and is really leaning into the bitterness. His memoir was mostly embarrassing to read, with very un-classy thinly veiled digs at his family, and he just seems really stuck at the moment.

Meghan annoys me and she seems to cause drama and rifts wherever she goes, despite telling everyone she just wants a quiet life. I think that Meghan is the most important person in the world to Meghan, and she views herself as some sort of visionary saviour of the people while simultaneously thinking she’s owed something.

I think Harry is besotted with her but maybe eventually cracks will form and the marriage might not last.

I hope Harry and his family can reconcile and come to an understanding, and apologise to each other. If Harry does divorce Meghan I think he could really spiral for a bit but I hope that ultimately things improve for him. One thing that does come across in his book is the utter devastation that his mother’s death caused, you can really feel it, and that is such an unthinkable thing for a child to endure. I really do feel for him.

Not obvious enough for me, I'm afraid. Just reread it and it still reads as you disputing that Andrew has learned to shut up because he wore finery to the coronation. This response seems to be saying exactly the same thing, only now you're agreeing that Andrew was expected to wear the finery, which makes it all seem even more self-contradictory.

No idea - I felt like a stranger when Diana died too - I mean of course it was very sad but I really didn't get all the people in tears for days over someone they had never met.

I want to start by saying I was a massive Suits fan before it emerged they were dating so I was initially v excited by their relationship.
I dislike them now.
lying and backtracking eg on Archie's skin colour and not knowing anything about the Royal Family when there is evidence to the contrary.
the monetising of Diana's name and even using the late Queen's nickname for their second child to get attention.
the speed of the dating / engagement / marriage made me uncomfortable.
Harry has changed from someone who seemed happy with his family until someone moody, angry, resentful, all since meeting MM. It seems he's being manipulated somehow.
that book, omg, how cringey and ill advised
We want attention, but on OUR terms, doesn't quite work like that sunshine. We hate the nedia, hang on,, why are we not getting any positive press?
They clearly wanted a photograph / video of seeing the queen and were denied.
Baby's been born, no it hasn't been born. Total nonsense.
The obvious use of Omid Scoobie to get snide comments out there.
Wait til George, Charlotte etc have relationships / get married. H&M will be forgotten about.

the speed of the dating / engagement / marriage made me uncomfortable.

Meghan's age meant they didn't have long if they wanted children.

Probably in the minority, but I can’t understand why people are so passionate about any of the royals to be honest. To me, worshipping these people because of their blood line is bizarre and belongs in the past.

I like Harry, he has some really, really good personality traits funny, mischievous, warm, really caring (very like his Mother in that) along with the bad stuff spoilt, childish etc. I’m in the middle about Meghan because although I really like some of her personality feisty, great speaker, knows herself well, her darker side isn’t the best, which is the same for every person I guess, but she has had to use hers more than most so I could be being unfair to her with that. I definitely find them both much more authentic for the good and bad.

I find Catherine very good at her job and her job is to be a public persona who is interested in and helps people. Behind that she is difficult to read. I would guess a bit lost and not well developed as an individual, more of a people-pleasing type personality. I feel nothing but sympathy for William. I wouldn’t want his life for anything. Also lost, also a people pleaser. Good for the jobs they have.

All in all they are people who same as the rest of us, they have good and bad parts to their personalities. On balance I think they are all decent people. Some hide the dark stuff better.

Sorry, nonPlayer I have no idea what you mean.

All I said was... Andrew is at church, then wearing finery at the coronation and no, they don't have to wear all the finery (as you said), Harry didn't. I said he is front and centre for PR opportunities at church, and whenever he can, and no I have not said he has learned to shut up because he wore finery, weird of you to say that!

that book, omg, how cringey and ill advised

Did you read it? All the way through?

the speed of the dating / engagement / marriage made me uncomfortable.

Why would this be any of your business though? You don't even know them.

We want attention, but on OUR terms

If you truly believe this, all you have to do is stop giving it to them. Don't click the stories, or comment on the threads. The algorithms will get the message and eventually, if everyone does it, so will the press.

I have no idea what you mean either, so perhaps it's best just to accept we are incomprehensible to each other.

That's great! Please do ignore my posts please!

This isn’t really true. Harry got out at 10 years service. This is pretty common - usually the 12 year point, as this is the time he’d have to start studying and passing exams to progress to the next rank. It’s not uncommon for soldiers - both officers and ordinary ranks, to take stock at this time and decide if this is their career and life permanently. I’m ex army as is most of my family, word was that Harry wasn’t the best and was always ducking out of his military responsibilities citing “Royal Duties” as his excuse. We heard that his seniors were glad to see the back of him because having him, with regards to security and planning was a massive PITA.

How true this is is anyone’s guess and I accept it could be total BS.

People's hatred of Meghan is really bizarre to me. I occasionally get reels pop up on my FB where someone has zoomed into a tiny gesture M has made and invented a whole narrative behind it. The comments under such reels are absolutely unhinged - and are usually made by women 55+ and weirdly have a very similar look.

I'm a republican so I'd get rid of them all tomorrow but I don't dislike any of the four. I'm sure they are all lovely, and occasionally arseholes, like the rest of us!

I actually don’t think folks do hate Megan in the main, I think Harry gets equal, if not arguably more disdain. If you search there is plenty of shit said about William and Kate, from his alleged affair, to him liking being pegged to her being a stepford wife.

but no, I don’t think Megan is the main focus, I think it’s both of them, and arguably more Harry, just I guess that doesn’t suit the narrative.

They used to irritate me a bit but I'm neutral to them now.

@CurlewKate @BethDuttonsTwin

Harry chose to leave the Army because he had failed the mandatory exams necessary for him to be promoted and progress through the ranks.

As he could no longer be deployed in an active role, this meant - at the rank he was - Captain - his career would have been a succession of sideways moves in a "desk job".

He obviously didn't find this prospect appealing, so he chose to leave and become a full time working Royal.

No one other than himself forced him to leave the Army. I'm not sure whether he could have tried the exams again and chose not to, or whether once failed, there was no chance of trying them again.

He could have maybe transferred to another service, like William did with the Air Ambulance as a pilot. But he clearly chose not to. But he absolutely could have had a career outwith if he wanted.

In what way did the speed of the dating , marriage etc make you uncomfortable?
They are still.together by all accounts wether they stay together forever remains o be seen but you could say that about any couple including William and Kate
I married my dh 6 months after meeting him we are still together 18 years later its lasted a lot longer than a lot of marriages I know

Actually its 19 years!

I hate the lot of them. Privileged beyond imagination and utterly anachronistic, harbouring a fucking paedophile.

I could've liked Harry and Megan if they'd had any self awareness whatsoever, but the poor mes from people who are so so privileged in their lives is absolutely tasteless. They want to be seen as in touch with the public but show by their every action that they are not.

Same. We got engaged after 6 months and married after a year. We were married nearly 20 years and it only ended when dh died.