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No alcohol wedding

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KK05 · 02/01/2024 01:39

So I’ve just discovered that my friends wedding in 3 weeks is alcohol free. I was always expecting to pay for my own drink on the day but it turns out they aren’t having alcohol at all. This was a shock as they both enjoy nights out with alcohol and her hen was messy.

My issue isn’t the fact we can’t have a drink, I would still be going either way it’s that we’ve only just found out.

All in all we have spent almost £300 for a hotel the night before and night of the wedding. Night before was so we didn’t have to try and check in either after the wedding or try to squeeze it in at some point throughout the day. Would never have stayed for even one night if I knew I could drive. Too far for cabs/public transport but would have happily driven there and back. Think country estate. Plus it’s a hour away from home (bride and groom live same town as me). Trying to cancel so fingers crossed I get some money back.

There was nothing mentioned on the invites and nothing was said until last night and even then was just mentioned in passing.

My question is it unusual to mention this on invites? I’ve never been to a wedding with no alcohol so not entirely sure. I also know that a few people going could be doing with the extra money in the bank even if only staying one night or trying to arrange transport to and from the nearest town.

Would it be unreasonable to mention to the happy couple that they need to make people aware before the day? Or AIBU suggesting this?

She’s a very good friend if that helps and it’s not the no alcohol that’s the issue but the extra expense that we didn’t really need to spend. Money isn’t a huge problem for us but I’m still annoyed I’m out of pocket.

OP posts:
SquirrelMadness · 02/01/2024 13:51

Of course alcohol can make certain events more fun, otherwise people wouldn't drink at all. The thread seems to have been taken over by anti-drinking trolls.

OP after your last post, I think you're right that they should have found a way to let people know. Otherwise they run the risk of a. people finding the bar and drinking anyway, and b. people being annoyed that they booked accommodation when it's not needed.

I would be tempted to cancel the hotel, depends on how strong your friendship with the bride and groom is and whether you can cancel the room and car share without causing any fuss. If you're planning to stay late anyway then the bride and groom might not know or care whether you stay over?

OVienna · 02/01/2024 13:51

I don't feel this is the full story - it's all very muddled.

TinaYouFatLard · 02/01/2024 13:52

I hope the person needing to be kept on the “straight and narrow” has been forewarned of the plan. Surely they will be mortified to turn up and find out a significant portion of the guests are grumpy because of them (obviously not their fault but still).

Also if there is a bar in another room the reception WILL be half empty. I’ve been to so many weddings that aren’t dry but the setup of the venue means the bar is separate. People always congregate there.

KK05 · 02/01/2024 13:55

Just want to make it clear to people.

Me and my DH don't have any issues with alcohol or having to drink to have a good time. We like the odd wine with dinner and have some nights out at the pub. Lots of times one of us end up driving to avoid expenses like taxis, hotel stays etc.

Again being in Scotland a simple dinner out means we either have to have a designated driver or we have to rely on taxis if we even want just one glass of wine each.

OP posts:
FreshWinterMorning · 02/01/2024 13:55

@KK05

They are 'hoping' to keep a family member on the straight and narrow. They aren't providing alcohol and the bar at the reception won't be offering any either. (Didn't even realise this was possible).

SO - because ONE family member has an issue with alcohol, no-one else is allowed to have it in the actual wedding?

WOW. Just WOW. Confused

Anyway the hotel bar will be open as normal and she has said guests are more than welcome to use this but they really don't want alcohol in the room. Plus they aren't going to make this clear to many, but I think word will get out or people will realise they can use the main bar instead or a bar person will tell people to go to the main bar. Or people arriving early and sitting in the bar while waiting for the ceremony will realise it's there.

As a pp said, good luck with getting people to stay in the area where the wedding is. As has been said, everyone who wants an alcoholic drink - which will be the vast majority of the guests - is going to be queueing up at the bar for a beer or a glass of wine or a brandy or vodka or cocktail. And they will very likely just stay in that bar area, instead of the dry and dull 'wedding room.'

AND they will be toasting the bride and groom with a glass of water. Gosh this sounds like a fucking tedious event. I think I would cancel now @KK05 Go and paint your shed and sit there and wait for the paint to dry. It will be far more exciting.

@tinayoufatlard

I hope the person needing to be kept on the “straight and narrow” has been forewarned of the plan. Surely they will be mortified to turn up and find out a significant portion of the guests are grumpy because of them (obviously not their fault but still).

Yep, imagine being THAT person! Shock I would not want to be in their shoes!

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Whaleandsnail6 · 02/01/2024 13:55

Oh dear. From your update, I can see potential problems for the bride and groom.

The individual they want to keep off the booze will surely learn there is a hotel bar. Seems like a lot of effort the the couple to go to, for this then to likely be spoilt the minute they realise.

Also the reality is, as the day and night goes on, people who do want to drink will spend longer and longer away from the main wedding room.

As a guest, I'd feel torn between wanting to stay in the wedding room, as thats the whole reason I'm there, but I'd also be put out that I could have driven and not drank (which wouldnt bother me if I know before hand) and saved money on the hotel room if they had been honest about the situation.

BritneyBookClubPresident · 02/01/2024 13:56

Mags57 · 02/01/2024 13:44

Anyway the hotel bar will be open as normal and she has said guests are more than welcome to use this but they really don't want alcohol in the room.

OP, she may very well just have a pretty empty room while guests are queuing at the bar then off nursing their drinks while chatting. They’re hardly going to go and do a quick shot and return to the room where the reception is. If she can’t see this, she may be disappointed. But her wedding, her decision. I imagine it’ll be a change in plans and people will be allowed in with their drinks and she’ll probably just wish she went for wine on the tables in the end.

Your update makes it clear why they’re keeping quiet now if it’s about a discount due to rooms being used. I agree this is selfish. I can’t see it going down well with many of her guests but that’s her business I suppose. I’d have kept out if it, no matter how close we were.

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I hope you've Kim the wedding oP

OhmygodDont · 02/01/2024 13:56

Haha good luck to her. The main bar always ends up rammed with the wedding members. Even then the hotel has a smaller wedding bar because the big bar stocks more she’s going to lose most of her guests for most of the night. Even those not drinking because the chatter will end up happening at the main bar and as such more and more people will move over there. Same with all the smokers at the Table outside the wedding will split up.

Sounds like even the mum will leave to the bar 😂 also I’d cancel the room for the cheekiness of keeping it dry a secret so the guests staying help sub her wedding when they highly likely wouldn’t stay at a dry wedding.

DrMarshaFieldstone · 02/01/2024 13:56

IGotItFromAgnes · 02/01/2024 13:46

I stand by what I say. A few drinks at a party DOES make it more fun, and I wouldn't go to a wedding that was alcohol free. How ridiculous dictating to people that they are not allowed to have alcohol.

So you care more about being able to have an alcoholic drink than help people you care about celebrate an important event in their lives? Are people really that dependent on alcohol?

I think the moral high ground is well and truly surrendered by OP’s latest update. Deliberately withholding information about the wedding to ensure that guests stay over and in doing so subsidise the cost of the event is reprehensible.

FreshWinterMorning · 02/01/2024 13:56

KK05 · 02/01/2024 13:55

Just want to make it clear to people.

Me and my DH don't have any issues with alcohol or having to drink to have a good time. We like the odd wine with dinner and have some nights out at the pub. Lots of times one of us end up driving to avoid expenses like taxis, hotel stays etc.

Again being in Scotland a simple dinner out means we either have to have a designated driver or we have to rely on taxis if we even want just one glass of wine each.

Just want to make it clear to people.

Me and my DH don't have any issues with alcohol or having to drink to have a good time.

Yeah just ignore the posters saying that. They're trying to make something out of nothing.

BritneyBookClubPresident · 02/01/2024 13:56

Woops this should have said I hope you enjoy the wedding!

Crazycrazylady · 02/01/2024 14:00

Honestly she is going to end up with an empty room and a full bar. She's mental not to be telling people!

TurkeyTwizlers · 02/01/2024 14:00

One guest is going to ask a member of staff and within 5 minutes the bar will be overrun.
And yes everyone will end up crowded in there all night.

I also drink very little, but in a room full of strangers it helps. Also I would very much like a drink with my meal, it’s a treat. If the bar sells bottles of wine they’ll be in the room in a few minutes.

pontipinemum · 02/01/2024 14:00

The main room is going to be empty! Or at least at reduced capacity. Even venues that serve alcohol in the main room can have that issue if the main bar has more staff on/ serve quicker - it was an issue at a wedding my sister went to recently, half the wedding crowd ended up in a nice bar area because service was so slow in the function room

But the whole thing of doing it to keep 1 person away from alcohol is silly. That person will either go to the bar or already have their supply in their room. If an alcoholic wants to drink, well then that is what they will do.

derxa · 02/01/2024 14:00

I would just keep the hotel room and have a few drinks.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 02/01/2024 14:01

Amanitacae · 02/01/2024 13:45

It’s so much more complex than the ‘if you can’t enjoy a party without alcohol then you have a problem’ statement.

I’m autistic and sensitive to noise. Parties are really overwhelming in terms of my brain’s capacity to process all that info to the point that I can’t hear what people are saying even when they are talking directly to me, and I start flinching every time someone laughs loudly or drops a fork. My brain can’t cope with that amount of processing and so I can’t enjoy the conversation and can’t really join in (usually also have to remove myself to hide in the quiet toilets for up to half an hour at regular intervals after a while).

if I have a couple of glasses of wine the noise and overwhelm in my head slows right down and I can engage, chat, enjoy myself.

Given that I very rarely go to parties, I don’t think this means I have a problem with alcohol. The ‘problem’ I have is autism but there’s not much I can do about that - have tried other measures, earplugs etc, it’s literally the relaxing effect that alcohol has on my brain that allows me to enjoy a large social event.

I do spend lots of time with friends (the majority of time) without booze too, but not in the en-mass, large scale overwhelming environment of a party. I much prefer a coffee, walk or cosy dinner.

I’m sure there will be people with other conditions- ADHD, social anxiety, introverts etc. who might use alcohol for social events in the same way. If the big social events (and therefore the booze) are few and far between, and you don’t get carried away or go overboard, then is this really a problem?

it would be lovely to be a non-autistic, socially confident extrovert who can cope with noise, and who shines brightly in such situations just from connecting/chatting at scale, but that’s not how my brain is shaped.

I am what would be described as NT. But I'm also quite introverted and don't like crowds or noise. Often have to remove myself from busy loud places.

I don't drink. I can have fun at a party or an event with people close to me or that I care about. I can talk to people, I can dance around, sing etc. It might take me a couple of days of "downtime" in quiet, non crowded places to recover. But I can do it. And I do, for the people I love and who are celebrating things important to them.

I don't think your use of alcohol to make social events easier on you is necessarily an autism problem. Because LOTS of NT people do the same thing.

SamW98 · 02/01/2024 14:07

An alcohol free wedding wouldn’t worry me but I would want to know in advance and I’d be pretty pissed off if I’d paid out for a hotel room when I could have driven there and back and slept in my own bed.

I think they’re being completely unreasonable not to give people all the information upfront. Guests need to make an informed decision re the hotel and they can’t when they’ve not been told the full story.

Beautiful3 · 02/01/2024 14:07

You have to let the other couple know. Otherwise they're going to be annoyed that they've forked out for a room. Just call them and explain the situation. Ask if they want to drive back or drink at the hotel bar and stay. The bride and groom do realise that 70% of guests are going to be hanging out in the hotel bar instead.

Goldypants · 02/01/2024 14:09

So say: driving excess alcohol or drunk in charge of a child or whatever

OVienna · 02/01/2024 14:10

They're not telling people because the thinking around it is so muddled everyone will start to pick holes in it all. It's not a 'dry' wedding if guests can easily go to a hotel bar. It's that the B&G aren't paying for booze and making it inconvenient for the guests to buy their own.

Amanitacae · 02/01/2024 14:13

“I don't drink. I can have fun at a party or an event with people close to me or that I care about. I can talk to people, I can dance around, sing etc. It might take me a couple of days of "downtime" in quiet, non crowded places to recover. But I can do it. And I do, for the people I love and who are celebrating things important to them.”

Bully for you. I can’t have fun doing those things when I’m in overwhelm mode. My brain doesn’t allow it. Happy for you that you can.

“I don't think your use of alcohol to make social events easier on you is necessarily an autism problem. Because LOTS of NT people do the same thing.”

i find this a very strange thing to say. Why would you presume to know the effect of large scale social events on my autistic brain.

TTC89Njna · 02/01/2024 14:16

Bride and groom are being so unreasonable. I don't drink much, usually 3 glasses of wine at an event that is so long. My issue would be that it forces you to drink coke and sprite all day which I hate. I drink wine and G&Ts because I like the taste. A wedding is a loooong day and I'd be very disappointed if someone dictated to me that i have to drink soda all day.

I've been to plenty of dinners where I don't drink at all and I'm the designated driver. But they were dinners only so 2 hours long. It would get soo borring so quickly at a wedding.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 02/01/2024 14:19

squashi · 02/01/2024 09:27

The post is about OP's hotel plans though - that's the point.
I also wouldn't want to spend £300 to stay somewhere an hour from home if I wasn't drinking.

Also consider that while "it's not your day Op it's the bride and groom" you many people may also also typically shell out -

Hen do £50 (and I've massively underestimated here)

Gift £100

New outfit £50

Then cost of drinks all day (soft drinks often are disproportionately expensive for just crap fizzy carbonated stuff)

Even a lovely wedding that you enjoy is an expense. It's not unreasonable to hope at least one drink to enjoy with your meal is provided with r for guests to maybe want to buy one or two more.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 02/01/2024 14:22

Libertyy · 02/01/2024 10:14

This is so weird, you don’t need alcohol to have a fun wedding

It's also quite miserable to take away peoples choice when they are spending cash to celebrate your big day

VenusClapTrap · 02/01/2024 14:24

Following your update, op, I’d keep the hotel room and join everyone else in the bar where the fun will be. Otherwise you’ll be sitting sober in the wedding room with a couple of elderly relatives and an empty dance floor.

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