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To have xl bully stay

273 replies

Worndownbyit · 30/12/2023 20:19

My daughter has 2 dogs, one of which is an xl bully she has recently taken on. Personally I don't mind the xl, but I've grown up with animals, my husband hates the dog and has said that he doesn't want the dog coming when she comes to visit with our grandchildren.
I know this is going to cause a row and my daughter is likely to say she won't come down...(she lives at the opposite end of the country)
AIBU to tell her she can't bring the xl when she comes to visit or should my husband just suck it up?

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guineverehadgreeneyes · 31/12/2023 13:08

No-one needs an XL Bully.
No-one needs to rehome an XL Bully when they have children.

I am 5 feet tall. I weight around 8 stone. Why would you choose a dog that can grow up to weigh more than an adult woman when you have children in the house?

If it were me, I'd want to challenge my daughter on why she felt this was a suitable choice of pet around her children and around any friends they have to play in their house and garden.

Why does the daughter need this dog?

threecupsofteaminimum · 31/12/2023 13:10

I agree with your husband.

Wateroverwine · 31/12/2023 13:40

It's your husband house too but I wouldn't single out the XL bully. She could find someone on rover.com to look after the dogs whilst she is away

Wateroverwine · 31/12/2023 13:43

guineverehadgreeneyes · 31/12/2023 13:08

No-one needs an XL Bully.
No-one needs to rehome an XL Bully when they have children.

I am 5 feet tall. I weight around 8 stone. Why would you choose a dog that can grow up to weigh more than an adult woman when you have children in the house?

If it were me, I'd want to challenge my daughter on why she felt this was a suitable choice of pet around her children and around any friends they have to play in their house and garden.

Why does the daughter need this dog?

You're massively controlling my god.

Lucytheloose · 31/12/2023 13:57

CoatOfArms · 31/12/2023 09:29

Nah, many hard of thinking "animal lovers" are shipping them up to us in Scotland, as our government has not taken any steps to restrict these things as they have in England/Wales.

That's appalling. What have the poor Scots done to deserve this?

DragonFly98 · 31/12/2023 13:58

Worndownbyit · 30/12/2023 20:24

Yes she's following all the rules, applied for exemption, got muzzle, booked into vet for spaying pre-assessment next week. Going to training classes with it too.

But doesn't care enough about her children or others to get it PTS.

ExtraOnions · 31/12/2023 14:03

Shipped to Scotland for free … shipped back to England, where someone will claim £200 for having them PTS.

HRTQueen · 31/12/2023 14:16

Wateroverwine · 31/12/2023 13:43

You're massively controlling my god.

Being concerned about your grandchildren is controlling ? Since when

all dogs can act out of character, there have been a number of fatal attacks on adult men a child wouldn’t stand a chance

I would certainly by questioning my ds if he making such poor judgments

get a small dog ones that we know may bite (as all dogs can) but are not known to have killed adults and seriously hurt adults in an alarmingly large numbers

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 31/12/2023 15:42

Wateroverwine · 31/12/2023 13:43

You're massively controlling my god.

How on earth can you say that’s controlling.
Someone has to have some sense.
Obviously the daughter hasn’t.
Also the danger to any visiting children.
Just like Jack Lis visiting a friends house and then mauled to death.
His mother could only identify his body from his shoe.

Sometimeswinning · 31/12/2023 16:05

Lucytheloose · 31/12/2023 13:57

That's appalling. What have the poor Scots done to deserve this?

A lady on fb has informed people that as the Scottish government are not implementing the law then people can send their dogs to her rescue in Scotland! She’s been inundated apparently.

ImNotReallySpartacus · 31/12/2023 16:09

Sometimeswinning · 31/12/2023 16:05

A lady on fb has informed people that as the Scottish government are not implementing the law then people can send their dogs to her rescue in Scotland! She’s been inundated apparently.

OMG. The idiocy of some people.

Would it be very uncharitable to laugh if she gets her nose bitten off?

Sometimeswinning · 31/12/2023 16:20

ImNotReallySpartacus · 31/12/2023 16:09

OMG. The idiocy of some people.

Would it be very uncharitable to laugh if she gets her nose bitten off?

She’d be lucky if that’s all that happens! Can you imagine how quickly she’ll need to rehome the dogs!

Missingmyusername · 31/12/2023 17:14

ImNotReallySpartacus · 31/12/2023 16:09

OMG. The idiocy of some people.

Would it be very uncharitable to laugh if she gets her nose bitten off?

Yes it’s ridiculous isn’t it.

Why aren’t we all up in arms about it?

We seem to give greeders a free pass don’t we? WHY is that? Parasites.

Yes it would be uncharitable @ImNotReallySpartacus pretty low to wish that on someone.

Xmaspudding23 · 01/01/2024 12:21

Because in a normal supportive relationship if one of you isnt comfortable, the other one shouldnt expose them to it in their own home. Yes this means one doesnt get their own way but its usually give and take. If its a pattern its not a normal supportive relationship.

ToWhitToWhoo · 01/01/2024 12:51

Buildingthefuture · 31/12/2023 05:10

@Esmerelda2024 I am a scientist and I deal in facts.

You wrote a very long, wordy but unfortunately not very factual post.
Women and children of any gender are more at risk from the men in their lives than they are from any dog.
They are also far more at risk when they get in a vehicle than they ever will be from any dog.
Your woolly statements can’t change those facts, because they are facts.
I haven’t made them up, nor do I particularly want them to be true or untrue. They are what research and statistics shows us. And I’m sure you are intelligent enough to understand that.

But you're not comparing like with like. In assessing risks, you have to take into account the number of people exposed to the potential risk in the first place. Almost all children have been exposed regularly to men and to traffic; only a minority have been around XL bullies. Therefore it's not surprising that more children have been killed or injured by violent men or in road accidents than by XL bullies. It doesn't mean that the XL bullies are safe.

BeeCucumber · 01/01/2024 13:01

Poor grandchildren.

oakleaffy · 01/01/2024 15:03

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 31/12/2023 15:42

How on earth can you say that’s controlling.
Someone has to have some sense.
Obviously the daughter hasn’t.
Also the danger to any visiting children.
Just like Jack Lis visiting a friends house and then mauled to death.
His mother could only identify his body from his shoe.

Absolutely.
These things snap without warning.

This is an interview {BY AM XL PITBULL KENNEL} that interviewed the step father of Mia Delorean {four} who was shredded apart by 'Nico' related to the one that slaughtered Jack Lees
Most of the UK inbred XL {Pit} Bullys are related to the human aggressive killers.

Dangerous Dog Attack Interview: Huge Pitbull attacks and Kills 3 year old girl

http://www.BigGeminiKennels.com BGK's Dangerous Dog Documentary: UKC's Most Wanted Kimbo aka KILLER KIMBO's son Niko a 130 lb pitbull/ American Bully randoml...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggBvHBx1p0Y

oakleaffy · 01/01/2024 15:08

IF an XL Bully kennel is worried enough to make it public about 'Human aggressive 'genes then surely people ought to listen.

The interview {above} said ''it was an extremely sweet dog'' - until it turned ''and looked like a Demon.. '' the mother's instincts made her drag her little girl into the bedroom, but the XL Bully smashed through the door to get to the daughter.
The daughter was no where near the dog when the dog turned rogue.

It's painful listening. The stepfather doesn't sound the sharpest tool in the block. {he giggles nervously in places}.it was his dog that killed the little girl.

Isometimeswonder · 02/01/2024 11:55

Better to Google dog deaths UK. Takes you to a history of all deaths caused by dogs over last eg 20yrs.
It is clear that most are by bullies, pitbulls staffies etc. It is scary.

Lookingatthesunset · 02/01/2024 16:07

Buildingthefuture · 31/12/2023 05:10

@Esmerelda2024 I am a scientist and I deal in facts.

You wrote a very long, wordy but unfortunately not very factual post.
Women and children of any gender are more at risk from the men in their lives than they are from any dog.
They are also far more at risk when they get in a vehicle than they ever will be from any dog.
Your woolly statements can’t change those facts, because they are facts.
I haven’t made them up, nor do I particularly want them to be true or untrue. They are what research and statistics shows us. And I’m sure you are intelligent enough to understand that.

Wow. A scientist, you say...?!

I'm incredulous.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 02/01/2024 16:18

So the dog is 3 but your daughter only recently took it on and doesn't know the previous history of it. It's a hard no thanks from me
I'm with your DH.

Isometimeswonder · 02/01/2024 17:11

There are so many people saying “Any dog can turn on you, can bite if provoked.”

It’s like the road safety advert, where in an accident at 40mph 80% of children die, whereas at 30mph 80% of children live. This doesn’t mean that everyone who drives at these speeds is going to injure/kill a child. (Obvs)
It’s the same with these dogs; not all dogs will bite, but IF they do then there’s a much higher chance of mortality if it’s a Bully rather than a Labrador or Jack Russel (or another family-type pet).

ejsmith99 · 02/01/2024 17:38

It's you and your husband's house and if she has only recently taken on the dog, of any breed, big changes like staying at someone else's home isn't in their best interest either. It is your decision what level of risk you are happy with, no-one else's. Bare in mind that getting insurance for bullys has been very, very difficult for years. Underwriters don't care about "MSM", conspiracy theories or information put out by groups pro or against a breed. They want to know if a risk is going to be covered by the premium. The majority recognised years ago that the risk of huge public liability costs (plus high medical bills for such a genetic wreck) could bankrupt a business easily so wiped their hands of them. I'd have to know a bully (and tbh certain other breeds) very well before they would be welcome in my house. She must have known what social difficulties would be the consequences of her decision

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