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Xmas aggro

165 replies

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 05:39

gggg😩my 81 year year old mum is impossible to please, nothings ever good enough. On Xmas day myself, dp,ds and DD travelled there and spent the day, stayed over and left boxing day late morning. Unfortunately she and my dp do not get on, so there were some testy moments but no arguments. I've now heard through the grapevine that's she's said she's not doing that again and felt like a stranger in her own home. Bear in mind that I paid for the food, took it there and cooked it and that this crap happens every year with her and my db🙄 swans off🙂on holiday every Xmas leaving me to it. I feel like I have to do this as she has no other family but when I hear she's saying these things I really couldn't care less anymore. Sorry about random emojis, I'm having problems typing and I can only do it if I put in an emoji first.

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Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 08:58

pickledandpuzzled · 29/12/2023 08:32

So I’m reluctant to start on the DP situation.

You need to do a bit of work there, but it’s a separate conversation from the DM thing.

My DH deserves a medal for putting up with DM. When you’ve got Christmas resolved to your liking, have a think about how you can resolve things at home.

Back to Christmas, don’t bother raising it now. Warn your brother, maybe.

Say to your mum in November ish-
About Christmas- I know you don’t like us coming to you, or when you come to us, so we’ll do something a bit different this year. The kids and I will pop over for the afternoon, bringing you your Christmas dinner.

It’s not ideal but you’ll probably prefer it to the other plans. And- it won’t be many years! She’ll grumble whatever you do.

Does DP have a family you need to fit in as well?

Thank you for your comment, some good ideas, dps mum is also a widow but thankfully most years she goes to Ireland and spends it with her dd, so at least that's not a worry. DM and mil don't like each other either (surprise!). Mother's day with them sat opposite each other (bad move) was so full of awkwardness my bum was twitching!😬

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ClairDeLaLune · 29/12/2023 09:01

Your controlling DP is a bigger problem than your mum. He’s got you over a barrel? This isn’t right in a relationship OP.

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 09:02

Ellie56 · 29/12/2023 08:55

You've got more problems at home than with your mother.

Your friend said it's freezing in your house and your daughter's toes go blue?

Your so called DP is a controlling abusive knob over the heating. I wouldn't put up with that.

Your poor child.

I know, I do feel bad for her, I put the heating on when he's not there.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 29/12/2023 09:08

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 06:25

I know. Had a crappy wood burner put in which just about heats the living room but nowhere else. As he works full time and I'm part time and earns more money, he's got me over a barrel. My friend came here yesterday and said it's freezing in here, how do you live like this?🤦

That's a disturbing set up, got you over a barrel cos he earns more? Does he earn more AND do all the childcare, housework, mental load while you just work a few hours or is he actually very controlling and selfish?

Could we be spotting why your DM doesn't like him?

WingsofRain · 29/12/2023 09:09

ohdamnitjanet · 29/12/2023 06:49

I don’t put my heating on. Can’t afford to. It’s fine.

Yes! All these comments about having to have heating are weird and judgemental - not everyone can afford heating, we don’t even have heating so couldn’t put it on if we wanted to.
We all manage just fine without it, and anyone who comes to visit has to manage too!

justasking111 · 29/12/2023 09:14

A few suggestions.

Get a ringtone that lets you know mums calling, preferably a funny one, maybe a witches cackle. And go grey rock on her. Ditto the brother. Speak to them when it suits you not them.

Get a heated throw for your daughter and heated slippers. I sometimes wear two pairs of socks under my slippers being a cold feet oddity.

Go to Ireland next Christmas and spend time with his Mam.

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 09:17

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 29/12/2023 09:08

That's a disturbing set up, got you over a barrel cos he earns more? Does he earn more AND do all the childcare, housework, mental load while you just work a few hours or is he actually very controlling and selfish?

Could we be spotting why your DM doesn't like him?

Apart from the argument years ago which she still holds a grudge over or just bad chemistry I don't really know why she dislikes him so much. I don't speak to her about any private problems between myself and dp so it's not that, have no clue🤷🏼

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 29/12/2023 09:20

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 09:17

Apart from the argument years ago which she still holds a grudge over or just bad chemistry I don't really know why she dislikes him so much. I don't speak to her about any private problems between myself and dp so it's not that, have no clue🤷🏼

You don't always have to specifically tell people your partner is a controlling dickhead. Often they can tell.

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2023 09:22

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 06:25

I know. Had a crappy wood burner put in which just about heats the living room but nowhere else. As he works full time and I'm part time and earns more money, he's got me over a barrel. My friend came here yesterday and said it's freezing in here, how do you live like this?🤦

He's got you over a barrel??

Does your mother have a point as to why they don't get on?

He's not your boss.

Turn the bloody heating on

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2023 09:24

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 08:14

He does have me over a barrel as he earns more so he pays more towards bills. My 12 year old daughters toes go blue and itch (doctor gives me cream) but it's obviously to do with the cold, he knows this but tells her to put socks on with her slippers. He's just like his own control freak father who would buy a brand new car every 3 years but let his son stink as noone bought him a can of deodorant🤦

Ever thought of leaving him?

Do you both own your house or do you rent?

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2023 09:25

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 09:17

Apart from the argument years ago which she still holds a grudge over or just bad chemistry I don't really know why she dislikes him so much. I don't speak to her about any private problems between myself and dp so it's not that, have no clue🤷🏼

I would have thought that it was pretty obvious that he's controlling.

I wouldn't like him either

Zonder · 29/12/2023 09:35

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 09:02

I know, I do feel bad for her, I put the heating on when he's not there.

Effectively you are choosing your partner over your daughter and her well-being.

Don't make excuses for him.

Zonder · 29/12/2023 09:36

WingsofRain · 29/12/2023 09:09

Yes! All these comments about having to have heating are weird and judgemental - not everyone can afford heating, we don’t even have heating so couldn’t put it on if we wanted to.
We all manage just fine without it, and anyone who comes to visit has to manage too!

It's not fine if her daughter has blue toes. Do you really not use any heating? Not even fires?

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 29/12/2023 09:37

OP, if you have children and you being part-time has helped with childcare, you have contributed just as equally to the household. Stop thinking you are lesser somehow. Can you maybe increase your hours and just put the bloody heating on? If you can’t because of children then that’s your answer. If he had to pay his share for childcare all these years he would have earned much less. Not having a go at you but it’s a shame to hear you talk like you’re hard up when you are part of a household. He’s taking the mick.

Your mum sounds a piece of work too. I’d say to her now that you heard what she said and you’re happy for you both to do your own thing next year, you’ll stay home. As you say she won’t be happy regardless. So just do what makes you happy next year.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 29/12/2023 09:39

It sounds like your mum has been emotionally abusive to you and I suspect that it has made you susceptible to abuse from a partner too. If it’s affecting your daughter’s health why can’t you stand up to him? This is not vitriol towards you this is a genuine question about what type of life you want for you and your family.

Imisscoffee2021 · 29/12/2023 09:39

Christmas aside I came in to chime in about my horror that a) he doesn't allow heaing on b) you have children in that cold house and c)you actually think this is unavoidable because you work part time so earn less.

Where has this belief come from? Aren't you two an equal partnership, collaborating in a home and a family rather than business partners? You make it sound like he's the bigger shareholder of a company so has control over it. His money is your money and vice versa, do you work part time to do childcare as this is even more heinous on his behalf if so?

It is so unhealthy not to heat the home, yeah cost of living situation is shit and I'm feeling the pinch myself in an old stone house needing heating on tons to avoid damp- but warmth, food and shelter are the three necessities that can't be compromised on. Not saying heating needs to be on all the time but the house should be warm, there are so many health issues from cold living environments.

Eustaciavile · 29/12/2023 09:41

Fairyliz · 29/12/2023 06:26

This sounds like my mil. I’ve realised that what she likes doing most in the world is moaning. She doesn’t actually want to be happy or do anything nice, just doesn’t want anyone else to be happy.

Unfortunately a lot of old people get bitter like this, so I would do what suits you.

‘Unfortunately a lot of old people get bitter like this, so I would do what suits you.’

unfortunately a lot of younger people love to make sweeping ageist remarks 🙄

JoyeuxNarwhal · 29/12/2023 09:43

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 06:10

That's a good idea too, but then I'll get grief how she had to spend Xmas night on her own. Sorry if I'm sounding negative but if you knew her well you'd know why I do.

From what you've said you'd get grief whatever you do so just do what you want to do, rather than what you feel you ought to do.

Nicole1111 · 29/12/2023 09:48

Bluebirthdaycard · 29/12/2023 08:05

He'd just say how unbearably hot he is and turn it off. He justifies it by saying about the rise in energy costs🤷🏼

So his comfort comes above the comfort of your child? I can’t say i’m surprised if your mum (however challenging she is) doesn’t like him if that’s reflective of how he behaves. Have you shown him the guidance about how homes should be heated for children?

MrsRachelDanvers · 29/12/2023 09:56

Reading your posts responding to suggestions, it seems absolutely nothing you could do would please her. Therefore I would forget it and just please yourself, dp and dc and do exactly what you want next year. Don’t let the guilt of failing to please a curmudgeonly woman ruin your life.

2jacqi · 29/12/2023 10:02

@Bluebirthdaycard why the hell are you cowtowing to an unappreciative mother like that??? I would not be visiting for christmas or having her at mine. Your brother obviously feels like he does enough if he lives with her. I would leave her to stew on her own and have a lazy christmas with your partner and your children. your family also need a break from her at christmas! she might realise how awful she is to be around!

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2023 10:03

2jacqi · 29/12/2023 10:02

@Bluebirthdaycard why the hell are you cowtowing to an unappreciative mother like that??? I would not be visiting for christmas or having her at mine. Your brother obviously feels like he does enough if he lives with her. I would leave her to stew on her own and have a lazy christmas with your partner and your children. your family also need a break from her at christmas! she might realise how awful she is to be around!

Nice lazy Christmas in a freezing cold house.

At least she's warm at her mum's!

DriftingDora · 29/12/2023 10:07

Don't tiptoe around this - tell her what you've heard. Confront her with it calmly and ask her for an explanation (if she denies it, ask her why xyz would tell lies).

Next year, I think I'd have other plans at Christmas.

Youdontgivemeflowers · 29/12/2023 10:09

it would be helpful if you learned some self assertiveness. both your dp and dm are treating you very badly. I think you should look for external support, counselling or personal development classes, then figure out how to change things. No one has you over a barrel, you just think they do

Growlybear83 · 29/12/2023 10:10

Are you sure your Mum isn't feeling like this because of the cooking arrangements? No matter how well meaning, I would hate it if my daughter bought all the food for Christmas Day, and then took over my kitchen to cook it.

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