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AIBU?

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Moonshine5 · 28/12/2023 10:12

Mumsnet was always a safe space to me, a community of women for women and recently I have noticed an influx of husbands on here.
Can't women have anything just for themselves?I t's getting on my nerves!
(I'm not talking about same sex marriage / partners and I believe in equality).

AINBU Men please seek alternative forms 😊
AIBU Men belong here 🙄

OP posts:
betterangels · 28/12/2023 14:12

What i really dislike is people using AITA? instead of AIBU?

That does irrationally annoy me.

TheChippendenSpook · 28/12/2023 14:13

betterangels · 28/12/2023 14:12

What i really dislike is people using AITA? instead of AIBU?

That does irrationally annoy me.

Same!

Candycurrantbun · 28/12/2023 14:16

While I don't think anywhere on the internet is a safe space I do like that MN is a mostly female space. I'm not keen on most of the men who post on MN especially the ones who only post on the sex board.

LeonieSN93 · 28/12/2023 14:19

JingleSnowmanTree · 28/12/2023 13:33

@LeonieSN93

@WhateverMate

explained it nicely & politely.

ive been on MN since it first started. I don't have children because I was unable to have them. Not because I didn't want them.

im not boring everyone else with my life story, but you are being offensive.

Then you're not 'childfree' as this is used to describe women who made the conscious decision to choose not to have children rather than those who wanted them but can't have them.

In what way is it offensive to state that I'd rather receive parenting advice from people who have actual experience in parenting? As I said before nobody cares about CF people being on the site generally but if I'm using the parenting board to ask for advice regarding weaning, bedtime routine, use of screen time etc then I'm really not interested in hearing about what a CF thinks.

For pretty much the same reasons I don't seek advice about how to care for my eyes from a gynecologist. You're not owed my time when I simply don't think you can offer me meaningful advice.

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:19

betterangels · 28/12/2023 14:12

What i really dislike is people using AITA? instead of AIBU?

That does irrationally annoy me.

Me too and I'm also getting irrationally annoyed with people saying something like "I (32F) and my boyfriend (32M)"

You've just said he's your boyfriend. We can work out his sex without you telling us 🤷‍♂️

Charlize43 · 28/12/2023 14:19

CurlewKate · 28/12/2023 10:41

I have to admit that, if I had the choice, Mumsnet would be a woman only space. But I don't have the choice so....

I am amazed when people talk about men getting a hard time on here though. Maybe I'm reading different threads? The level of justifying/excusing/minimising men's bad behaviour is, IMHO, simply staggering.

You're probably not seeing the man bashing threads because you are pro segregation (not really a diverse, inclusive type of person, are you?).

Judging by your second comment and gross generalisation your attitude is already extremely biased.

TeapotTitties · 28/12/2023 14:22

Candycurrantbun · 28/12/2023 14:16

While I don't think anywhere on the internet is a safe space I do like that MN is a mostly female space. I'm not keen on most of the men who post on MN especially the ones who only post on the sex board.

How do you know you're not keen on 'most of the men who post on MN'?

Most of the time you wouldn't have a clue what genitalia they have? Confused

TheChippendenSpook · 28/12/2023 14:22

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:19

Me too and I'm also getting irrationally annoyed with people saying something like "I (32F) and my boyfriend (32M)"

You've just said he's your boyfriend. We can work out his sex without you telling us 🤷‍♂️

Exactly! And why do we need to know their ages as well?

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:24

TheChippendenSpook · 28/12/2023 14:22

Exactly! And why do we need to know their ages as well?

I guess ages are sometimes relevant. I just don't get why we need to be told that their boyfriend is male? 👀🤣

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 28/12/2023 14:27

I'm disgusted at the pencil sharpener enthusiasts already trying to derail this thread and make it all about themselves. This forum is called MUMSnet - why can't they go and post on PerfectlyPointyPencilsNet instead?!

This topic comes up soooo very regularly. It's ironic, really, because it's basically somebody coming on and saying "This is OUR club and WE don't want xxxx people allowed into it" - but if they hadn't just come along and joined the 'club' themselves, they would be fully acquainted with many of the previous 435,376,902 threads dealing with the exact same thing.

Imagine being a newbie joining a 'club' and assuming that ANY characteristic that you have gives you the right to denounce and seek to eject other long-standing 'members' who happen to not share that characteristic. Isn't that exactly the kind of bullish takeover behaviour that, erm, men on MN are routinely assumed to all display by certain posters?

I'm impressed by all the self-professing psychics who claim to be able to 'always know' when a man posts, because of the arrogant, self-important, domineering way that a minority of (self-identified) men on here behave. What you're basically saying is that "It's ALWAYS obvious, except for the very many times when it isn't", which doesn't sound like the most robust scientific conclusion to reach. Moreover, even if this site did seek and find a foolproof way to eliminate all male posters, if you think that would mean an end to all arrogant, self-important, domineering posters on MN, I have some magic beans to sell you for a today-only bargain price.

And as a parent, I'd like to stick up for the non-parents on here, who seem to also regularly cop for criticism as to how a non-parent could possibly have a 'valid' opinion on Eastenders, decorating, dogs, holidays, cars, property renovations, family disagreements, bill-splitting disputes, Christmas, neighbourhood parking wars, cost of living, music, energy suppliers, M&S returns policy, biscuits, technology, fashion, books, horses, carpets........... and all of these other things that only a mum (and possibly the occasional dad, if we're being condescendingly kind) could remotely know anything about...

Beryls · 28/12/2023 14:29

I do roll my eyes at some men's posts on here. I can usually tell a man's post as they are often overly long, an unnatural way of wording, and have a cringey 'comedy' element to make all us ladies fall about laughing.

And the men who lurk like absolute wronguns on the relationships and sex topics ewww.

I understand lots of men are parents and are perfectly entitled to post on anything they want but why do so many lurk round those boards in particular...

Brefugee · 28/12/2023 14:29

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 13:12

Well yes, there are cunts everywhere including Mumsnet.

It takes a special type of cowardly cunt though to be sexist/racist/ableist from behind a screen.

well quite, but my point was the "oh woe pps are saying not nice things about da menz" when the internet is full of misogynist cunts saying the very worst things about women, the like of which would last a nanosecond here.

Women can be mean fuckers. That is fine. Some of the men people write about here are utter cunty fuckers who deserve the slating. Others, not so much.

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/12/2023 14:32

Beryls · 28/12/2023 14:29

I do roll my eyes at some men's posts on here. I can usually tell a man's post as they are often overly long, an unnatural way of wording, and have a cringey 'comedy' element to make all us ladies fall about laughing.

And the men who lurk like absolute wronguns on the relationships and sex topics ewww.

I understand lots of men are parents and are perfectly entitled to post on anything they want but why do so many lurk round those boards in particular...

I understand lots of men are parents and are perfectly entitled to post on anything they want but why do so many lurk round those boards in particular...

One could ask you the same question?

If you weren't lurking around those boards yourself, you wouldn't know who else was, would you?

Neitheronethingnortheother · 28/12/2023 14:34

@FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper

PerfectlyPointyPencilsNet

I'm stealing that for my new forum name!!

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:35

Brefugee · 28/12/2023 14:29

well quite, but my point was the "oh woe pps are saying not nice things about da menz" when the internet is full of misogynist cunts saying the very worst things about women, the like of which would last a nanosecond here.

Women can be mean fuckers. That is fine. Some of the men people write about here are utter cunty fuckers who deserve the slating. Others, not so much.

Yes but that comes across very much as But...butttt...buuuut she/he started it missssss!

Sexism is abhorrent full stop.

It doesn't matter who started it or who does it more or less often, it's never acceptable.

Brefugee · 28/12/2023 14:37

TheChippendenSpook · 28/12/2023 14:22

Exactly! And why do we need to know their ages as well?

at the risk of being the 94th person to say this it's from the Subreddit AITA (Am I The Asshole). And i rather suspect that the posts are just c&p from there.

Slightly chortling at the pp who said Reddit was friendlier. Where the heck are you looking? even the most innocuous fluffy kittens and ducklings sub has some really hateful posts

AmazingDayz · 28/12/2023 14:38

I’d rather have dads on here than child free people 🤷‍♀️

AmazingDayz · 28/12/2023 14:39

And as for mumsnet being a safe space 😂🤣🤣🤣 this place is often vile.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 28/12/2023 14:39

If you weren't lurking around those boards yourself, you wouldn't know who else was, would you?

It's a fair point!

Also notice the frequent threads around men with erectile dysfunction - and all of the (apparently, in context) female respondents who clearly consider themselves experts on what must be causing it: porn use, death grip, he's secretly gay, he's having an affair etc. etc.

I've yet to see the equivalent thread about an OP with vaginismus, where a load of blokes come on and give her a confident 'diagnosis' of what she's doing wrong or in denial about from an 'expert' man's pov.

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/12/2023 14:39

AmazingDayz · 28/12/2023 14:38

I’d rather have dads on here than child free people 🤷‍♀️

And yet you haven't said why? Confused

Or did I miss it in a previous post?

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:41

I've yet to see the equivalent thread about an OP with vaginismus, where a load of blokes come on and give her a confident 'diagnosis' of what she's doing wrong or in denial about from an 'expert' man's pov.

I think the whole site would go into meltdown!! 🤣🤣🤣

AmazingDayz · 28/12/2023 14:41

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/12/2023 14:39

And yet you haven't said why? Confused

Or did I miss it in a previous post?

Why do I need to? That’s my opinion. I don’t like child free people on here but usually I ignore them. Same thing that’s been advised about ignoring men if you don’t like them on here.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 28/12/2023 14:42

AmazingDayz · 28/12/2023 14:38

I’d rather have dads on here than child free people 🤷‍♀️

Across the whole forum? Including the 95% of discussions that have absolutely nothing to do with children or parenting?

Brefugee · 28/12/2023 14:42

WhateverMate · 28/12/2023 14:35

Yes but that comes across very much as But...butttt...buuuut she/he started it missssss!

Sexism is abhorrent full stop.

It doesn't matter who started it or who does it more or less often, it's never acceptable.

but the posts saying "leave the farting cheating cunty twat" aren't saying that because sexism.

And while there is the very rare "all men are raging cunty fuckers" it is very rare and they are usually very roundly and soundly taken to task.

Far more there are descriptions of utter bastard controlling fuckers, and the handmaidens all trolling along to say how mean people are to call them cunty fuckers.

And of course, you can always report the really bad sexist stuff and leave it to the mods.

I'm not saying "well we should do it because it is all over the internet the other way round" i AM saying that just because we're a bunch of women doesn't mean we can't talk about utter cunty fucker twats ruining our marriages. We don't have to "be kind" or "act ladylike" if we don't want. That is what leads to a lot of the stuff on relationships and AIBU

Candycurrantbun · 28/12/2023 14:42

TeapotTitties · 28/12/2023 14:22

How do you know you're not keen on 'most of the men who post on MN'?

Most of the time you wouldn't have a clue what genitalia they have? Confused

Mostly because they like to announce their arrival and mansplain to the 'ladies'