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Christmas has descended into chaos

193 replies

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 14:35

I need to find out if I am unreasonable, I am diagnosed autistic with ADHD. I often struggle with these things.

So I said to DS in the summer that this year I won’t be doing Christmas presents for adults in families with DC, just DC. I did get a gift for my other sister because she has no DC or OH.

I am 100% sure that I communicated this. I recall her reaction which was ‘err, um ok.’ And I can visualise the place where the conversation happened. We don’t do big presents among adults in the family, they are always along the lines of a bottle of bubble bath, or a box of biscuits. A bit like a crap secret Santa. All the DS and their partners have good jobs and get themselves the things they want. For me the decision not to give to adults was that I find the cognitive load of Christmas totally overwhelming. I struggle with SAD and anxiety. I also have very little money and to me the extra cost does make a difference. I was able to get her children something better.

I dropped off the gifts for her kids on Christmas Eve.

Christmas Day, she gave me a gift when we met at my mothers. She said she was ‘very upset’. That there wasn’t gifts for her and her husband. I reminded her that I said I was only doing gifts for adults and told her that months ago when we started discussing Christmas arrangements.

She will never accept that I did tell her months ago that I wasn’t doing gifts for adults. So, I apologised to diffuse the situation. If I had forgotten to tell her, (which I really don’t think is the case) I didn’t do this with malice. Why would I seek to cause offence and bring problems on myself. I have occasionally forgotten people’s gifts in the past, I really struggle with this time of year, and organising life generally. I went home as I have covid, and woke up this morning to my mother on my doorstep.

She made me come outside. She was screeching at me in the street. She said she wanted all my neighbours to hear. My mother returned the gift I had given her, and then told me I was a totally horrible person for not having given gifts and for missing out younger sisters gift one year in the past.

She said I should have gone and wrapped something up for them. I don’t have anything suitable in the house. I didn’t buy in any Christmas stuff, I don’t drink, so no bottles of booze and no one has given me anything I could re-gift. Between 2pm on Christmas Day and 10am today I had been in bed with covid.

she also said I was horrible for cancelling younger sister coming round to visit me 20 and my kids years ago. I cancelled that visit as I was suffering from anxiety and had a panic attack because I can’t cope with people being in my house. I had called my crisis team worker who had told me to address the problem by taking control of the situation and cancel the visit. My mother said this was a horrible thing to do to my little sister.

The reason I can’t cope with people coming in to my house over the last 20 years is because it is a mess and my mother tells me this to my face, how disgusting and lazy I am. I was a single parent working full time so I figured the house would never be sparkling tidy.

I don’t invite her round because she makes negative comments about what a mess things are. In fact, every time she ever can round she has a go at me for things being messy or dirty… so to prevent this I don’t invite her.

She stood in the street screeching at me telling me I am a horrible person and dumped the present I got her on my doorstep. I obviously couldn’t say anything, just waited until she had finished.

How can I try and make things better? Do I return the gift that my sister gave me? I haven’t gone and got her anything because I worried that it wouldn’t be received and it would be an afterthought. I haven’t done any of these things to cause hurt. I think what my mother did was directly calculated to cause hurt, which is the thing that bothers me the most.

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Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 20:15

I was also telling the families not to buy anything for me and my partner either, so they had less to do and their kids got more.

the things we adults would give each other is stuff like a packet of shortbread, few beers, Lidl scented candle etc nothing personal or thoughtful. They are teachers, so most of it is re-gifted end of term presents from their students, they are open about this.

If we are being transactional about it the families end up with the same value of stuff in the form of better gifts for the kids, whilst buying nothing for us. This is really about reducing my stress a bit and giving more to the kids.

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crumpet · 26/12/2023 20:20

Please take some time to reflect on these posts. Your family’s response was 100% not proportional to their perceived issues.

do not apologise. And in the future make sure you have popped a message on WhatsApp or whatever that you can point to if they pretend they didn’t know something. Stand back and hold your head high.

TheShellBeach · 26/12/2023 20:23

Premfove · 26/12/2023 19:46

Ya I'm thinking your dictionary length diagnosis's are really just your response to growing up with an unhinged mother. YANBU

People are born with neurodiversities

Namechangeforthis11111 · 26/12/2023 20:27

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 17:01

Thank you so much everyone who has commented.

I agree that in hindsight a few bits of tat from the pound shop would have prevented all this. The irony is that I was trying to improve my life admin and manage my condition by simplifying things.

I don’t have anyone to talk to about this in real life. Everyone I have knows the whole family so it would be unfair.

Thank you once again everyone. I really struggled with this.

OP, your comment about not having anyone to talk to as it would be unfair because they know the family, shows you are operating at a far better level than your dreadful relatives who tried to publicly shame you. Best wishes.

Justanything86 · 26/12/2023 20:27

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For my diagnosis I had to explain to my doctor at great length why I though I had it, complete an initial screening, get referred, compete another screening, then complete a more in depth screening plus complete a document explaining at length specific areas that I struggle with, with examples from now and from my childhood then submit documents from both a friend and a parent both giving detailed descriptions of my behaviour both now and in childhood, then a several month wait for an appointment with a psychiatrist who quizzed me for several hours on my entire life in such my childhood, education, employment, relationships, my general health, existing mental health conditions, relatives mental health conditions, substance use etc etc in great personal detail.

I had already previously been treated for depression, anxiety, work related stress and had been assessed by an educational psychologist and told I had a very poor working memory so it was clear that there was definitely SOMETHING wrong.

It's really not as easy as you are making out and if you are seeking a diagnosis it's probably because you are really struggling, have tried everything else and need help.

Kdtym10 · 26/12/2023 20:41

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It’s clear you don’t have a clue.ADHD diagnosis are typically carried out over a period, taking information from people who knew you in childhood to analyse behaviours throughout life.

You are basically writing off a condition which often leaves people isolated, makes even things like dealing with time an incredible struggle. I struggle to buy presents because I struggle to conceptualise the future (this is often what makes people with adhd late).

At times life is so difficult I’ve felt suicidal (esp when combined with my PTSD).

Im sorry that you are so lacking in empathy you cannot understand life experiences can be different to yours. I’ve had nearly 50 years of heart breaking struggle because adhd was massively under diagnosed in girls and women. Attitudes like yours continue to make life more difficult than it needs to be for people like me.

Ladyritacircumference · 27/12/2023 02:17

Thank you so much to everyone who has posted on here. I have literally been stressing about this all day, I worry terribly because I am unsure how my response, or lack of it might be taken. It is strange how for 50 years I have chosen ‘family’ , even if they aren’t always very nice. I am not sure if I can ever fully break away, but I will definitely go low contact. I need to explore that a bit. Going low contact might enrage them more. I also have two adult sons who I don’t want drawn in to this mess.

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brainworms · 27/12/2023 02:23

Bloody hell love. No wonder you're so stressed.

Time to go no contact I think. You poor thing.

Tonight1 · 27/12/2023 02:27

Your parents are teachers?? 😯

And they behave like this?

Ladyritacircumference · 27/12/2023 02:29

Sister and her husband are teachers. Mother is a retired teacher.

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Newestname002 · 27/12/2023 06:24

Sending you a huge hug @Ladyritacircumference - what terrible behaviour from your family - particularly your mother's cruelty. She has shown you the person she really is by trying to humiliate you in public and dredging things up from the past.

Don't let such behaviour destabilise you and I agree, low contact for a while is the way to go. If you can access 1:1 counselling therapy for yourself that will also help - speak to your GP. 🌹

JazzyJogger · 27/12/2023 07:20

Tonight1 · 27/12/2023 02:27

Your parents are teachers?? 😯

And they behave like this?

My thoughts exactly! I thought they were Jeremy Kyle like roughs !

homeishere · 27/12/2023 07:28

as your kids are all grown up and therefore capable of maintaining their own relationship with your wider family, I’d suggest sacking off your mum and sisters who are mean to you. Stop returning their calls, don’t answer when they call you etc. Fuck them and gaslighting and mistreatment of you.

Namechangenamechange321 · 27/12/2023 08:00

FWIW I agree with your decision not to got to adults abd just do children. Even if you’d forgotten to tell your sister that reaction was nuts. Stick to your guns on this one

MrDirtyBear · 27/12/2023 08:01

Wow, just wow. This is classic "golden child" stuff when you aren't the golden child.

I'd like to be surprised by the occupation being a teacher, but sadly not. The teacher-tone was often, in my experience, used outside of the educational setting....

Repeat advice from earlier, go NC, should be the opportune moment after your mother made an exhibition of herself.

Strugglingtodomybest · 27/12/2023 08:44

I got anxious just reading your OP and I agree with most of the previous comments about going low or no contact.

What jumped out at me though is that you're still thinking "did I tell her?", as though it makes ANY difference. Honestly op, you have done nothing, repeat, nothing wrong in this scenario. Please don't beat yourself up over it.

twinklystar23 · 27/12/2023 08:54

Take it slowly O.P it seems from your responses that in addition to your disabilities it has significantly chipped away at your self-esteem. It was noticeable that despite many posters on the thread, earlier on gave you 100% supportive comments that it was not your fault. However it was the one less helpful response "could have been avoided with some tat" was the comme that you referred to in your subsequent update. Definitely withdraw and as soon as you feel ready explain your decisions to your adult sons. However you may need to accept that they may continue to have a relationship with your mother and sister. So I would ask them, if they choose to do so is it would be best they don't discuss you with them. This will save them being caught up and manipulated. Also that you do not want to hear anything about them.
Then get some professional support around this going forward. Treat yourself to a diary to record your feelings concerns but also how things have made you feel etc and hopefully it will show you that this time next year you have made so.e progress in keeping yourself emotionally and psychologically safe.
New Year start of a new you!

Mumtime2 · 27/12/2023 09:12

It is perfectly fine to ignore the returned gifts and stay inside, ignoring her drama.
Get yourself a nice movie or distraction from this narrow-minded woman.
How you live and the decisions you make is your choice, your mother needs put in her place & if she does not support you then stay away.
I fully understand your decision on the no adult presents, and rightfully so.
It is time to get yourself well and mh on track for yourself.
I would donate all the returns to charity and be done with thinking you have to explain, you look after you.
Put yourself first...tell them to go away!
Do not be hurt. Be concerned they are pathetic.

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