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Christmas has descended into chaos

193 replies

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 14:35

I need to find out if I am unreasonable, I am diagnosed autistic with ADHD. I often struggle with these things.

So I said to DS in the summer that this year I won’t be doing Christmas presents for adults in families with DC, just DC. I did get a gift for my other sister because she has no DC or OH.

I am 100% sure that I communicated this. I recall her reaction which was ‘err, um ok.’ And I can visualise the place where the conversation happened. We don’t do big presents among adults in the family, they are always along the lines of a bottle of bubble bath, or a box of biscuits. A bit like a crap secret Santa. All the DS and their partners have good jobs and get themselves the things they want. For me the decision not to give to adults was that I find the cognitive load of Christmas totally overwhelming. I struggle with SAD and anxiety. I also have very little money and to me the extra cost does make a difference. I was able to get her children something better.

I dropped off the gifts for her kids on Christmas Eve.

Christmas Day, she gave me a gift when we met at my mothers. She said she was ‘very upset’. That there wasn’t gifts for her and her husband. I reminded her that I said I was only doing gifts for adults and told her that months ago when we started discussing Christmas arrangements.

She will never accept that I did tell her months ago that I wasn’t doing gifts for adults. So, I apologised to diffuse the situation. If I had forgotten to tell her, (which I really don’t think is the case) I didn’t do this with malice. Why would I seek to cause offence and bring problems on myself. I have occasionally forgotten people’s gifts in the past, I really struggle with this time of year, and organising life generally. I went home as I have covid, and woke up this morning to my mother on my doorstep.

She made me come outside. She was screeching at me in the street. She said she wanted all my neighbours to hear. My mother returned the gift I had given her, and then told me I was a totally horrible person for not having given gifts and for missing out younger sisters gift one year in the past.

She said I should have gone and wrapped something up for them. I don’t have anything suitable in the house. I didn’t buy in any Christmas stuff, I don’t drink, so no bottles of booze and no one has given me anything I could re-gift. Between 2pm on Christmas Day and 10am today I had been in bed with covid.

she also said I was horrible for cancelling younger sister coming round to visit me 20 and my kids years ago. I cancelled that visit as I was suffering from anxiety and had a panic attack because I can’t cope with people being in my house. I had called my crisis team worker who had told me to address the problem by taking control of the situation and cancel the visit. My mother said this was a horrible thing to do to my little sister.

The reason I can’t cope with people coming in to my house over the last 20 years is because it is a mess and my mother tells me this to my face, how disgusting and lazy I am. I was a single parent working full time so I figured the house would never be sparkling tidy.

I don’t invite her round because she makes negative comments about what a mess things are. In fact, every time she ever can round she has a go at me for things being messy or dirty… so to prevent this I don’t invite her.

She stood in the street screeching at me telling me I am a horrible person and dumped the present I got her on my doorstep. I obviously couldn’t say anything, just waited until she had finished.

How can I try and make things better? Do I return the gift that my sister gave me? I haven’t gone and got her anything because I worried that it wouldn’t be received and it would be an afterthought. I haven’t done any of these things to cause hurt. I think what my mother did was directly calculated to cause hurt, which is the thing that bothers me the most.

OP posts:
ScroogeMcDuckling · 26/12/2023 15:26

I wouldn’t do anything now.

I do find that when my home is disorganised - so am I, and I would try and start there.

Start in the tidiest room, and if anything doesn’t belong in there, take it out, polish and hoover, and sit in there with a cup of tea and enjoy the peace.

Then give the bathroom a good going over, again, if It doesn’t belong in there, take it out, and give the bathroom a damn good scrub and clean. Light a few candles, take a cup of tea, a sandwich, a biscuit and book and have a damn good soak in your newly cleaned bath.

Ince you’ve had the bath, put your pjs on, a make sure the bathroom and your first room still look pristinely clean.

Gradly do this to the whole house, and don’t use your unused rooms as a dumping ground for stuff you don’t use or need, make a decision, “chuck, sell or charity”

I know several people on the autism spectrum, when their homes are tidy and clean, and they are happy to let people in to visit, nasty comments don’t seem to upset them.

I hope 2024 is your year xx

Ponoka7 · 26/12/2023 15:29

Pity they aren't food gifts, you could smear them over her windows. I agree with going NC.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 26/12/2023 15:30

I'm sorry your family are so hateful towards you
You have them notice that you weren't doing adult gifts which is fair and respectful
Your sister gaslit you and acted like a toddler
With families like this, blood is not thicker than water
You've done nothing wrong whatsoever and I guarantee your MH will improve without these toxic people in your life.
Disengage from their drama and don't contact them, and never apologise
I suggest you keep your door firmly closed to them
If you feel the slightest bit uneasy, call the police and report to the MH team for support

Pugdays · 26/12/2023 15:31

Your mother sounds unhinged
Personally I take the gifts in ,place in a box ,then get on with whatever I was doing .
Totally don't make the first move .
The longer they leave you alone ,the better your mental health will be

Crikeyisthatthetime · 26/12/2023 15:31

OP I was so angry at your awful family for doing this to you. But when you said that obviously you just stood there and let your mum screech at you - nearly broke my heart.
You don't have to stand there and take it. Please get yourself some therapy so that you learn how to walk away from people who treat you so badly.
Next time, don't let your mum in. Don't follow her out.
Don't apologise for being who you are, you are great. You're just ill and traumatized and you need to get those awful people out of your life.

ntmdino · 26/12/2023 15:31

Quite frankly, it seems to me that your family are taking advantage of your autistic nature - they know you won't fight back (and I'm guessing you're a people-pleaser, as so many of us are), so they're free to set the worst aspects of their (frankly, awful) personalities loose on you without fear of any consequences.

The key point here is that it doesn't matter how positive your actions are, these are clearly people who'll look at the current situation, find nothing to complain about and so will dredge up every tiny little thing from your past to use as a weapon. You don't need that kind of shit in your life; they may enjoy living life as though they're in an episode of Eastenders, but you don't have to.

I think it's probably time to exercise that other common autistic talent - cutting people out of your life. Hell, I know I've done it accidentally many times over the years! I know it feels like you shouldn't, but...you really can just leave them behind, assuming there aren't any financial ties.

When they ring, just say "No, thank you" and hang up. Block their numbers, if they persist. If they come round, just leave them outside until they've yelled themselves hoarse. Block them on social media. Don't give them any kind of feedback or reason, you don't owe them an explanation.

Give yourself the space to feel better about yourself, and move on.

luckylavender · 26/12/2023 15:32

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 15:01

Thank you all so much. My mother has been leaving things that I have given her on the doorstep throughout the day. I am worried what I should do next. Should I go and apologise and take their gifts back?

Go no contact with all of them. Look after yourself.

AuntMarch · 26/12/2023 15:33

Even if you hadnt told her, these reactions are extreme, pretty toxic in fact. I know it's easy to say, but I'd be going as low contact as possible (preferably zero). You can't choose your family, but you can choose not to be around them when they don't bring anything positive to the table!

Notsurehwhattdo · 26/12/2023 15:33

If you know what your mother is like, I would have declined her invitation out onto the street to begin with, and if she became abusive, told her to fuck off and to leave you alone. Sorry her and your sister are bat shit and nasty to boot.

ClematisBlue49 · 26/12/2023 15:34

So sorry you are going through this, OP. Please do not blame yourself for any of it. Your relatives are being totally unreasonable and are bullying you. I would take in the returned gifts after your mum has left, and take them to a charity shop. I would not bother returning any of their gifts to you.

If it were me, I would stop contacting them for an extended period, and make other plans for next Christmas. In the meantime, take care of yourself and take your time to decide whether you want them in your life in the future.

SausageAndEggSandwich · 26/12/2023 15:34

You haven't done anything wrong OP

If you remember telling her, then you told her

Your sister's reaction is ludicrous and I don't have words for your mum wanting to shout in the street so the neighbours could hear

You know what the neighbours thought don't you? the crazy woman yelling at her daughter is a total lunatic.

Don't engage, don't respond, don't apologise, don't explain. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG.

nomadmummy · 26/12/2023 15:34

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 15:01

Thank you all so much. My mother has been leaving things that I have given her on the doorstep throughout the day. I am worried what I should do next. Should I go and apologise and take their gifts back?

OP there have been lots of great comments already.
I'll throw this into the mix. You do not need the emotional abuse.

Write this out and repeat it to yourself:
I am whole, strong, perfect, powerful, loving, harmonious, and happy

WilmaWonka · 26/12/2023 15:34

Your family sounds extremely toxic OP, much like mine! You did absolutely nothing wrong.

It’s certainly not normal that your mother was shouting at you in the street about not getting your adult sister a present and then proceeded to dump everything you’d ever bought her on your doorstep.

My extremely mind disordered, narcissistic mother did similar when I challenged her - got a massive box in the mail with every photo that had DH, my DC and I in them, every card and homemade offering from my childhood and my kid’s childhood (cards to Grandma, pottery stuff etc). Better that I got it in the mail rather than on the doorstepI suppose!

Agree that you may find that some of your mental health issues (obviously ASD can cause them too) may be caused by being brought up by such a mother.

I would block them and no answer the door for a bit while you decide if you want/need people like these in your life.

Olika · 26/12/2023 15:35

Just take the gifts she returns in and leave it with that. No apologies, no explanations, just ignore their drama. Go minimum contact with them for your own health. And when autumn comes send everybody a message to say you will only be giving presents to kids at Xmas.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 26/12/2023 15:36

OP I wouldn't bother making things better. I would not see these people again.

Crikeyalmighty · 26/12/2023 15:36

Your family are nuts and supremely unpleasant. - and they wonder why you have issues

Worldgonecrazy · 26/12/2023 15:36

ValerieDoonican · 26/12/2023 14:39

Your family are appalling and probably a big part of the reason for your mh issues

This!! Your family are awful. I’m sorry that they did this to you, especially your sister. They could have chosen to be grateful and kept their thoughts to themselves. They didn’t.

So what are you going to do differently or are you going to teach them this behaviour is acceptable?

BabyShaark · 26/12/2023 15:37

Fellow Aspie here (I know the term isn’t used any more but I prefer it).

Go NC. Build a mental wall, don’t let anything through. Focus on yourself.

Your family is bad for your well-being. You need to re-charge your batteries.

Then stay NC

ChocolateCinderToffee · 26/12/2023 15:37

No apology, take the gifts to a charity shop if you don't want them yourself.

BeadedBubbles · 26/12/2023 15:38

YANBU

You sound perfectly reasonable, kind and thoughtful. Your mother and sister on the other hand sound abhorrent, unhinged, nasty and vile. There must be something seriously wrong with any mother who rounds on her child in this way. You sound like a very well balanced individual despite the lack of a mother who has your best interests at heart and loves you unconditionally.

Neitheronethingnortheother · 26/12/2023 15:40

Ladyritacircumference · 26/12/2023 15:01

Thank you all so much. My mother has been leaving things that I have given her on the doorstep throughout the day. I am worried what I should do next. Should I go and apologise and take their gifts back?

Absolutely not, you do not need to apologise

You have already apologised to your sister, which you didn't really need to but you have done. that's your part done.

The person who really needs to apologise now is your mother for her terrible behaviour. Her behaviour is not inside your control therefore you are not responsible for it, or for apologising for it.

Honestly the best thing you could do for yourself right now is to ignore them, at least for a few days, preferably longer.

Just to be clear, even if you hadn't told your sister in advance and hadn't bought her a present that still wouldn't have warranted this reaction from your family.

nutster · 26/12/2023 15:42

Op do you have anyone in RL to offload this to?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 26/12/2023 15:42

So what, even if you didn't tell her? The only grown up response to someone not buying presents for you (if you're over seven) is to smile, say 'no problem, it's not obligatory'; make a joke of it and laugh it off. Maybe, if you really think there's been a misunderstanding, ask if there were any problems.

What is NOT a grown up response is shouting, screaming, returning gifts, dragging up 'what you did ten years ago' and yelling in the street about you being shit and 'ruining your sister's Christmas'. That is the behaviour of someone unhinged and ridiculously juvenile.

The problem is not yours, OP. The fault lies fairly and squarely with the rest of your family and if you are wise you will never speak to any single one of the trashy oiks again.

MrDirtyBear · 26/12/2023 15:43

When horrific people do horrific stuff I find blasting out Movin On Up or ABCDEFU helps an awful lot. Sounds a bit facetious but music helps a lot at moments like this.

Get them out of your life, hold your head up and when you can be bothered, make one room look great for you. About time you put yourself first eh?

Crispedia · 26/12/2023 15:46

I am so sorry, your family are awful.

Did you know you had covid when you went to your mum’s house?