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AIBU? Trying to unpick yesterday's upset

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DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 07:32

For years, DH has been put out by my family (barring my parents who he loves) joining us for Xmas lunch (which DH makes). Over the years, the extra family member has included a rotation of siblings who have addiction problems or other issues and they would otherwise be alone at Christmas but usually only one person per year would be at a loose end.

I was brought up thinking 'the season of goodwill' means you don't willingly leave people alone at Christmas unless they want to be alone.

This year, my single brother - who can have everyone on eggshells as he can suddenly raise his voice and be very confrontational (but also can be very full of festive spirit, maybe due to a bipolar diagnosis?!) -was expected and he has come for several years without any major issues.

My niece (who is not DBs daughter) is recovering from coke addiction and recently fled a new relationship in December due to discovering a worryIng history of DV found herself homeless and put into emergency accommodation. During this challenging time she seems to have resisted going back to coke and has maintained her job and working with her ex and organisations to maintain shared care with her ex of their DS (3). Her and my brother teamed up for Xmas eve and morning and had a lovely time. The plan was that they would then come to mine for around 2 hours before lunch then at lunch the DS3 would be collected by its Dad and niece would go for a work shift.

On Xmas eve I heard from my brother that nieces shift had been changed to the evening and the DS3 was being collected after our lunch. Niece doesn't drive and lives half hour taxi away so I asked him to check what her plans were now that she had new time to fill - trying to be clear that she wasnt invited to mine for longer. We left it as he would ask her to let me know and I didn't hear from them again until they arrived on Xmas morning. As we were readying for lunch, my brother loudly asked me if my niece and her DS were staying for lunch, I said that the plan was that they were going just before lunch, to which my brother raised his voice a little and said 'I didn't ask you what the plan was, I asked if they were staying'. I told him he was putting me in an awkward position and I left the room wanting to run away and hide as felt torn - do I upset my husband by letting her stay? Do I kick her out on Xmas day knowing she has nowhere to go and will have to pay for a taxi home just to come back to the area later for work? Meanwhile niece staying quiet and maybe a bit socially unaware as seemed to think she could just plonk herself in my house for the day and didn't mention or ask about changing her plans and I didn't want to spell it out to her and make her feel unwelcome at a time she is trying hard to get her life on track. My brother had to take someone home so I called him to smooth things over before his return. We argued and I told him he had railroaded me into having more people for lunch than agreed, he said I had had time to accomodate her when he told me about her plans changing and I reminded him he had said he would tell her to let me know her new timings. I told him he had raised his voice at me on xmas day in my own house which is exactly why my husband wanted a quieter Christmas as more people creates more opportunity for arguments - he said he was going to his friends house instead. I text him as we sat down for lunch to say there was space for him if he changed his mind and no further discussion was needed as it's Christmas, he didnt reply or return.

Niece and her DS stayed for lunch then the DS was collected and niece was looking to contact another family member to go to their house for a nap before night shift but they gave an excuse that she couldn't (the rest of the family on her side are horrific and selfish so I feel responsible to show her some kindness and care) so I told her she could nap in my DC room as we wouldnt use upstairs until after the time she would leave and so she did that then went to work.

DH served lunch but didn't eat, chatted with my oblivious parents and says he would eat his later to relax and enjoy it, he's never done this before and he didn't eat a dinner at all yesterday even when everyone had gone.

I know he will blame me for not eating his lunch - no doubt because he 'didn't feel comfortable in his own home' and possibly because my niece was there (but out of sight and asleep for hours).

I just don't know what I could have done, I upset my DH and my brother and felt I was stuck between a rock and a hard place and I've ended up upsetting them both. In honesty, I don't mind a busy house full at Christmas and would have 20 people for dinner but DH says my family are too volatile and he doesn't want an awkward atmosphere. He bites his tongue a lot as doesn't want to make a scene in front of the kids in Xmas day.

Should be sleeping in but woke up at 6am as can't stop thinking about it all

OP posts:
TheaBrandt · 26/12/2023 08:16

I hope these men have an online space for their Christmas woes this man and the poor sod who hosted and cooked for everyone but not given a single gift by his wife’s vile family definitely need it!

FUPAgirl · 26/12/2023 08:20

Lifeasiknowitisout · 26/12/2023 08:03

You could have made her leave.

Why is her lack of planning your responsibility?

Are you really suggesting she knew she wasn’t staying for lunch but made no plan in how to get to and from yours? She then moved all her plans, still didn’t make plans on how what to do after she left yours? then just sat there while people argued wether she could stay. Then ate lunch. Then started trying to find someone who would take her in for a nap?

She has shown zero respect for you or your home or your husband. She was never going to leave. If she made no plan, she knew you wouldn’t make her leave and she didn’t even have the respect to speak to you first.

She could turn up at yours and make you give in to the plan she had. You could make her leave.

That’s what your husband has issue with. Your family dictating every Christmas even right up until the day.

This is a vulnerable woman who is recovering from addiction and DV whilst caring for her DC and holding down a job that includes night shifts at Christmas. A little compassion wouldn't hurt.

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:20

I just want everyone to be happy. Have I really hung DH out to dry in that process?! If he wasn't here I'd have had a much less stressy day as I'm happy to go with the flow and accomodate people on Christmas day. I thought he was the problem!

DB was coming to us but yes he could have changed plans and hosted DN and child himself. I have become the default host because my parents come to us.

I'm annoyed that DB had mentioned going to the friends house when we had discussed Xmas plans but changed his mind to come to us because friend wasnt doing a proper lunch. But was quick to rush to friends house after all our prep because I called him out for railroading me

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Mikimoto · 26/12/2023 08:20

Maybe DH would be happy to invite your family if they all stopped taking drugs?

Iouis · 26/12/2023 08:21

Can you really not see that DB is your problem, not DH? I don't think you can see it. Your DH, in his own home, also deserves the christmas he wants. Just speak to him.

Itsbeginingtolookalotlikexmas · 26/12/2023 08:22

Do I understand this right? You cooked and hosted, and I imagined did must of the mental load of organising, buying presents etc. then you spent the day trying to please everyone else. When your DH got upset about an extra person for lunch he punished you by being passive aggressive and refusing to eat all day?
Where does what you want come into it?

TheaBrandt · 26/12/2023 08:22

You want to people please but at his expense. He’s every right to be pissed
off.

PurpleChrayne · 26/12/2023 08:22

Stop inviting these absolute dregs to your Christmas lunches.

Grimpo · 26/12/2023 08:23

I hate the thought of people being alone at Christmas and how do I tell family members they can't come because DH doesn't want them there without causing a huge rift? DH gets along with DB usually so it's so unnecessary to cause ructions. He says he wouldn't put me in this position with his family but equally I would never ask him to turn away his family if it was the other way round.

You don't have to tell them anything, you just don't invite them. If your brother starts hinting/assuming he's going to come, tell him it's not going to happen after his behaviour this year. If anyone else asks, just tell them you're having a quiet one next year.

Moonwatcher1234 · 26/12/2023 08:23

Your h is unreasonable. Firstly, your niece is clean at the moment so there was no concern that you had a drug user in your home at this time. Secondly, if you’ve invited her, why not be a proper host abd actually let her and her child have lunch. Weird to be desperate to kick her out to placate your husband. He then didn’t eat his lunch to make a point to you.

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:25

Itsbeginingtolookalotlikexmas · 26/12/2023 08:22

Do I understand this right? You cooked and hosted, and I imagined did must of the mental load of organising, buying presents etc. then you spent the day trying to please everyone else. When your DH got upset about an extra person for lunch he punished you by being passive aggressive and refusing to eat all day?
Where does what you want come into it?

DH cooked and cleaned after lunch. He insists on it. But yes I do everything else. He loves having my parents over but that nears people who could go to theirs are left alone.

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Furiousfive · 26/12/2023 08:25

Your husband should get a peaceful Christmas next year without all your chaotic relatives. It sounds like he's put up with a lot every year and you should put him first for once

Lifeasiknowitisout · 26/12/2023 08:26

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:20

I just want everyone to be happy. Have I really hung DH out to dry in that process?! If he wasn't here I'd have had a much less stressy day as I'm happy to go with the flow and accomodate people on Christmas day. I thought he was the problem!

DB was coming to us but yes he could have changed plans and hosted DN and child himself. I have become the default host because my parents come to us.

I'm annoyed that DB had mentioned going to the friends house when we had discussed Xmas plans but changed his mind to come to us because friend wasnt doing a proper lunch. But was quick to rush to friends house after all our prep because I called him out for railroading me

Where does Dhs happiness come in the list?

ElevenSeven · 26/12/2023 08:27

I couldn’t have all this drama, tbh. High conflict people find themselves alone at Christmas for a reason.

Everydayisanewday · 26/12/2023 08:27

Maybe going against grain but your DH sounds completely immature. Plans change.
Have a strop if you need to in private or with partner and move on and make best of things.

Mumsanetta · 26/12/2023 08:28

I just want everyone to be happy.
Everyone except your DH.

Have I really hung DH out to dry in that process?! If he wasn't here I'd have had a much less stressy day as I'm happy to go with the flow and accomodate people on Christmas day. I thought he was the problem!

For me, the fact that you see your DH as the problem is a huge red flag. I suppose this is probably down to your upbringing as you do after all come from the same family as your DB and niece.

And btw, if your DH wasn’t there you would have had to do all the cooking. Far harder to
go with the flow and be so accommodating when you’re doing the cooking!

Your DH doesn’t have a problem with his DW’s family, he has a DW problem.

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:29

Moonwatcher1234 · 26/12/2023 08:23

Your h is unreasonable. Firstly, your niece is clean at the moment so there was no concern that you had a drug user in your home at this time. Secondly, if you’ve invited her, why not be a proper host abd actually let her and her child have lunch. Weird to be desperate to kick her out to placate your husband. He then didn’t eat his lunch to make a point to you.

She originally had a work shift for 3pm so was leaving at 2.30 when we had lunch. Then work changed her shift to 7pm. Originally it worked well as she came with DB and saved on expensive taxis.

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Lifeasiknowitisout · 26/12/2023 08:29

Everydayisanewday · 26/12/2023 08:27

Maybe going against grain but your DH sounds completely immature. Plans change.
Have a strop if you need to in private or with partner and move on and make best of things.

Yes plans change.

But here it’s quite obvious the brother and niece changed plans for all them the evening before.

Plans do change. That doesn’t mean someone else has to accommodate you without you even discussing it with them.

Hercisback · 26/12/2023 08:29

Your DH is a flipping saint.

I can't believe you see him as the problem. You're so enmeshed in your own families mess that you can't see how brilliant your DH is. Well done to him for finally having some boundaries around why sounds like a car crash.

Shoxfordian · 26/12/2023 08:31

You're so busy trying to accommodate these losers that you're forgetting the person you're supposed to love the most (aside from kids but I don't think you mentioned any)

Stop people pleasing to the detriment of your relationship

ElevenSeven · 26/12/2023 08:32

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:29

She originally had a work shift for 3pm so was leaving at 2.30 when we had lunch. Then work changed her shift to 7pm. Originally it worked well as she came with DB and saved on expensive taxis.

I bet her shift was always at night, they just engineered it so they had an invite

Lifeasiknowitisout · 26/12/2023 08:32

DairyleaFunker · 26/12/2023 08:29

She originally had a work shift for 3pm so was leaving at 2.30 when we had lunch. Then work changed her shift to 7pm. Originally it worked well as she came with DB and saved on expensive taxis.

So when she found out her shift changed, what plan did she make for leaving yours?

She didn’t. She decided she was staying. She decided she would stay at yours and didn’t have the decency to discuss it with you.

She decided she didn’t want to go back your brothers for nap and decided she would just get anyone to try and let her nap at theirs. And decided that person would be you.

All without even discussing it. Probably because she knew discussing it before hand might mean no.

That’s the point. You have people in your home who are treating your home like a half way house that’s there for them to use as they please. Without even consulting you.

Dishwashersaurous · 26/12/2023 08:33

Your poor DH. He tells you very clearly that he doesn't want extra people for Christmas.

And you ignore it.

It upsets him so much he can't eat.

Next year get someone else to host. So your parents don't come to you.

Then you and dh can decide whether you just have you and your children at home or go somewhere else.

Listen to your husband.

You don't need to be responsible for multiple family members with addiction problems.

Listen to what your husband is saying to you

ZombieGirl86 · 26/12/2023 08:33

You keep saying what you would prefer and what would make it easier on you. You even say no dh is easier???

Wtf, it's his home too, his christmas too. He is telling you them not being there is all he wants and you are deaf or do not care.

You think your being kind to your relatives but it's at the expense of his happiness which should come first if you want to stay married.

margotrose · 26/12/2023 08:35

Stop prioritising random family members over your husband. At the moment, your actions are telling him loud and clear that he doesn't matter - your siblings and their addictions will always come first.

He's done Christmas your way for years (and cooked) - now it's his turn. One of your siblings can host your parents for once and you can give your poor husband a bloody break.

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