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Sick friend and boxing day plans . Who is being unreasonable?

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Crayolaslug · 25/12/2023 20:21

Name change but long term poster.

Who is being unreasonable about this Christmas day argument please.

Me and DH have had a Christmas day argument that we've tried to put behind us but tbh after a heated spat and some crying in the middle of the day has created an atmosphere and I feel Christmas has been pretty ruined.
I can't tell if my POV was unreasonable or his was.
We both strongly disagree and have had to just agree to disagree and not talk about it, with both of us not understanding each others point of view or priorities.

For context we always do Christmas eve with my DHs family which we did yesterday. Boxing day with mine. Last year we had to cancel to my Grandad last minute. He is getting old and not in great health and I fear we don't have many Christmas' left with him. He will be hurt if we cancel last minute again.

Yesterday we heard the news that a long standing friend (more my partner's friend of 20 plus years but also my friend for about 16) had been rushed to hospital. This is a good but not very close friend to either of us anymore but someone we both care about alot none the less. He is an important person to us. We were told he was unresponsive and feared to have had a stroke. We have been very very worried.

We got a call from another friend today to let us know that he was awake, he's had a serious medical emergency that I won't disclose as its not my medical information and this thread could be outing but he isn't going to die, hospital are investigating why this has happened and looking at sending him home.

Friend was visiting family the other side of the country.

DH offers to go fetch him when he is discharged and bring him back home. This will take a day with all the driving. Obviously this is completely fine with me. Of course he should help. .

The argument happened because he then tells me he might be doing this tomorrow Boxing Day. I say "umm no not boxing day it's my family Christmas" I wouldn't be able to go as I can't drive and we would have to late cancel my Grandad yet again. I explained this. I said it was important to me. I said he could go the next day.

He said I have funny priorities. That my reaction was weird and not ok. Got very annoyed with me. I got upset. Argument happened.

Now if this was still a life and death situation with friend I would have said yes go. If friend had been likely to die I would have told him to set off in the middle of our Christmas dinner if needs be. But to me if hospital are looking at discharging, then this is no longer an immediate emergency / not really even an emergency anymore and he is not at risk of dying and so I think it's great to help friend but it can wait until 27th.

His opinion - That I have my priorities all wrong. That friend needing help as he is in hospital top trumps family Christmas because we could just go another time and friend has been sick in hospital and so is far more important then Christmas or seeing family. He implied strongly that he thought I was selfish and that I only think of myself.

My opinion - That this is no longer an emergency. It would be unreasonable to late cancel my Grandad again. That my family Christmas is important to me and it is as important as his family Christmas (that we never have had to late cancel or miss because he would never allow it). Yes help friend but not at the expense of my family Christmas. Helping him can wait until the next day (which still would have messed up our family time plans but still fair enough friend needs help). I don't think it's selfish to think that my elderly Grandad not being let down again is more of a priority then a non emergency with a long standing but not close friend, this isn't his bestie. I feel upset he can't see this and that he has questioned my ethics and thinks I am selfish.

So am I being unreasonable and I am in fact selfish for thinking that it's not ok to cancel my family boxing day so he can drive across the country to help friend or am I being reasonable to have said hold on no not boxing day you could go in the 27th

Whose priorities are off here?

As it turns out friend isn't in danger of dying but hospital are keeping him for a few days so partner isn't driving there anyway but this argument has definitely soured our Christmas day and I am just really sad about that.

Is it me that's being a dick about this? I honestly don't know and would like some opinions as I don't know what to say. I just feel sad about the ruined Christmas day.

OP posts:
DaggerIsle · 26/12/2023 14:54

So what happened in the end?
From my perspective it sounds like OP's husband has enjoyed his family Christmas, can't be bothered to go to Op's and has found the perfect excuse to get out of it.
He's helping a friend and can use that to take the moral high ground and make OP feel bad for not getting her family Christmas.

I hope you found a solution and that you pass your driving test ASAP!

Nanny0gg · 26/12/2023 14:57

Guavafish1 · 25/12/2023 20:56

your unreasonable for not driving and he unreasonable for cancelling your family Xmas plans and being alone on boxing day.

You need to learn to drive and keep trying!

it took me 6 attempts!

I'm so grateful I don't have to be at the mercy of public transport, friends or family!

You are unreasonable for not reading the OP's posts

She must be sick of typing the same thing over and over

FuckOffTom · 26/12/2023 14:59

I think it is a pointless argument as his friend isn’t being discharged today anyway. So just drop it.

Itrymybestyesido · 26/12/2023 15:03

I'm with you OP. I think you've got your priorities correct here given how the situation has played out.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 26/12/2023 15:06

Yabu that you can't drive. Being dependent on some one else to ferry you about is always going to cause resentment and issues.

The whole thing seems weird to me, has your distant friend not got some actual family or close friends to pick them up?

SapphireSeptember · 26/12/2023 15:11

ZenNudist · 26/12/2023 10:32

Irs good you are learning to drive. I think you both have a point but his friend needing help trumps family Christmas. I think you need to get one of your family to collect you. I've driven an hour there and another hour back to pick up dsis on boxing day before because she can't drive. Maybe get picked up and stay with family or get a £65 taxi back. That's not too bad one way.

The friend doesn't even need help, he was staying with family and isn't even going to be discharged for a few days yet.

SapphireSeptember · 26/12/2023 15:15

@Girliefriendlikespuppies He was staying with family before he ended up in hospital. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Honestly, does no one just read the OP's posts?!

Also, I can't drive. I wouldn't be allowed to. Unless I can magic up enough money for laser eye surgery. As I can't even afford new glasses that's a bit tricky.

SapphireSeptember · 26/12/2023 15:17

@Crayolaslug I hope you're at your granddad's house and having a lovely time!

Crayolaslug · 26/12/2023 15:56

DaggerIsle · 26/12/2023 14:54

So what happened in the end?
From my perspective it sounds like OP's husband has enjoyed his family Christmas, can't be bothered to go to Op's and has found the perfect excuse to get out of it.
He's helping a friend and can use that to take the moral high ground and make OP feel bad for not getting her family Christmas.

I hope you found a solution and that you pass your driving test ASAP!

Friend didn't need collecting because he hasn't been discharged from hospital as they are keeping him for observation. Will be out in a few days. Friends are trying to persuade him to stay with family and rest however if he wants to come back DH will go fetch him then.

We went to my Grandads as planned. My Grandad was very happy to see us. Also really glad we didn't let him down as no other extended family actually showed (was expecting my immediate family to be a no show) and so tbh if we had cancelled I am sure he would have been sad and lonely at Christmas.

I tried to apologise to DH for some of the things mentioned in this thread people said I was unreasonable about, and tried to explain where I had been coming from but also stress I understood why he wanted to help friends and the emotional pull to do that involved due to how scary it was with initial news of friend hospital admission. He said that wasn't it, it's just "what you do when someone was in need but obviously didn't think the same. I hoped the conversation would smooth things over between us and kill the soured atmosphere this morning but DH shut the conversation down saying we just had clearly different priorities and he was shocked at my priorities but whatever its how it is is and it doesn't matter now anyway as friend wasn't coming out of hospital. He said he didn't want to talk about it again or at all. I decided not to push it as tbh he doesn't want to to hear my point of view and hasn't got any interest in me explaining I now understand his point of view and I didn't want to have another argument or anything.

Grandads has been a good distraction we've had a nice time (still here at Grandads now) and as a result the atmosphere has lifted of it's own accord. DH has been affectionate with me and seems happy and got into the swing of being here so hopefully that'll just be the last of it.

So all in all it's worked out fine and I won't bring it up again.

Seems like a mixed bag of opinions and perspectives on this thread and it was helpful to me. So thanks to all that replied 🙂

OP posts:
phoenixrosehere · 26/12/2023 16:35

Glad you got there in the end, OP and that your grandfather didn’t end up alone on Christmas.

Your DH was still very unreasonable with it all.

SapphireSeptember · 26/12/2023 18:02

His friend would have been fine without your H charging halfway across the country, he wasn't 'in need.' Sounds like your H is sulking because you scuppered his hare-brained scheme! Your priority of wanting to spend some time with your elderly grandad over Christmas seems perfectly reasonable to me.

DaggerIsle · 28/12/2023 13:01

SapphireSeptember · 26/12/2023 18:02

His friend would have been fine without your H charging halfway across the country, he wasn't 'in need.' Sounds like your H is sulking because you scuppered his hare-brained scheme! Your priority of wanting to spend some time with your elderly grandad over Christmas seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Yes, he sound so passive aggressive about it!
Your friend wasn't stranded at all, even if he had been discharged as originally planned.
How dare your husband think spending time with a grandfather is selfish??? Christmas is supposed to be about family. You never told us why you had to cancel last year, I'm so glad everything went well this year.

I still think you should take your driving test ASAP, and question your DH's intentions. He's not exactly been very nice throughout this whole saga.

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