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To be annoyed that toddler not included in christmas meal

252 replies

10littlemonkeys · 24/12/2023 16:44

We are going to my inlaws for Christmas dinner. It is a large family dinner (about 20people). Our DD is 16months old and it is the first Christmas where she understands a little bit of the magic.
I have just found out that there is 'not enough space at the table' for her and that we will have to feed her christmas lunch seperatly to everyone else.
She eats really well and now feeds herself for the most part so I was really looking forward to us all sitting together to enjoy Christmas lunch as last year she was so little I missed it as she was fussy and u settled so had mine microwaved after everyone else.
I know Christmas is different with a baby and usually a bit chaotic, but I also highly expect that it is my inlaw being fussy and more concerned about the mess she might cause whilst eating (a few years ago at christmas she made an adult relative cry for breaking a glass....). There will be other children there a bit older 4/5yo who will be seated at the table.
It is now christmas eve we are finding this out and we don't have any option really to pull out and go elsewhere or stay at home. I'm really not looking forward to the eating part now as most of it will now be one of us feeding DD in another room and having a cold christmas dinner or dinner on own, or running around chasing her whilst everyone eats if she eats before us.
YABU- Christmas with a child is chaotic and you just go with the flow
YANBU- Host should be more accommodating for us and DD

OP posts:
Silverbirchtwo · 24/12/2023 20:26

Just say it's no problem we can manage, even if it's a bit tight. Send at last minute so they have no opportunity to say anything else.

Ladyj84 · 24/12/2023 20:32

Nope sorry we have 3 toddlers and they eat before everyone else. They literally have no clue what's going on and will happily play with there new toys while we sit having lunch in peace. Next year maybe this year we can still all enjoy without anyone being fussed

ChristmasCracker23 · 24/12/2023 20:36

SuperGinger · 24/12/2023 19:41

Actually toddlers are a pain in the arse, I loved mine at that age but they were messy and annoying at mealtimes, now we are about to have a two year old visit. I'm dreading it. My house isn't set up for toddlers, in fact it's a massive imposition, the child should eat wherever the host specifies.

I see some posters are full of Christmas kindness and spirit on this thread.

We’ll be having 24 people staying with us between Christmas and the New Year, 3 are toddlers, 1 is 4, 2 are 5 and 1 is 7. Children make mess, children spill things, they accidentally knock things over and drop crumbs. None of them will be banished from our table nor expected to eat meals separately to us. They do like to have their own little table if they choose to sit at it, however they’re more than welcome at the ‘big’ table too. The 7 year old especially loves to ‘help’ with the younger children’s drinks etc and yes sometimes they get spilled, it’s not a big deal.

indianwoman · 24/12/2023 20:37

Octavia64 · 24/12/2023 17:41

We've had this.

We were at a big family Boxing Day lunch and they said there wasn't room at the table for our little one.

In the end we ate with him in at the dining table an hour before everyone else and then we sat in the lounge while everyone else took hours over lunch.

It was pretty grim.

This was a bit pointless of you. Just feed the kid first and then enjoy the meal with everyone else. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 24/12/2023 20:39

@indianwoman

and what do you do with the kid while you’re eating with everyone then?

Bax765 · 24/12/2023 20:43

I think I'd decline in these circumstances. If they don't want your child to eat with them, they shouldn't have invited you all.

SuperGinger · 24/12/2023 20:45

I did not invite them they invited themselves, I was so busy with work, I foolishly agreed

crumblingschools · 24/12/2023 20:45

@indianwoman No way would DS have sat there on his own whilst everyone else was eating. He was always last man standing at kid’s parties when it came to food

GCAcademic · 24/12/2023 20:47

Keep your eye on the prize, OP. Next year (and the year after that, and the year after that, and . . . you get the picture): “oh, don’t factor us in for Christmas, we know that you can’t accommodate the three of us for the meal, so we’re making our own plans”.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/12/2023 20:50

Ktime · 24/12/2023 20:13

If you’re a guest in someone’s home, you sit where they tell you to sit.

I feel sorry for the in laws. Not only do they have to host 20 people every year, they also have to deal with people breaking their glasses and moaning about seating arrangements.

They can't dictate if your own baby sits in your own lap or not though, that's up to the parents.

Workway · 24/12/2023 20:54

She's 16 months old. How did she break a glass a few years ago?

But overall ridiculous behaviour from in-laws and I wouldn't go. My 5mth old was sitting up in a high chair at Christmas. It's family. Your DD is family. It's really odd behaviour from your in-laws.

Katbum · 24/12/2023 20:54

‘We think it’s important DD is included at the meal - understand if there isn’t room but if that’s the case we’ll stay home, as it’s important to us to share the day as a family.’

Dixiechickonhols · 24/12/2023 20:57

Workway · 24/12/2023 20:54

She's 16 months old. How did she break a glass a few years ago?

But overall ridiculous behaviour from in-laws and I wouldn't go. My 5mth old was sitting up in a high chair at Christmas. It's family. Your DD is family. It's really odd behaviour from your in-laws.

It was an adult that broke the glass..

Santaiswashinghissleigh · 24/12/2023 21:02

Ils chose to invite 20 people.. Maybe less people would have allowed their dgs to have a space at the table...

cyclamenqueen · 24/12/2023 21:04

Ladyj84 · 24/12/2023 20:32

Nope sorry we have 3 toddlers and they eat before everyone else. They literally have no clue what's going on and will happily play with there new toys while we sit having lunch in peace. Next year maybe this year we can still all enjoy without anyone being fussed

You’d leave 3 toddlers to their own devices in a separate room whilst you ate your meal?

RarrrrrrrrrrTheLittleLion · 24/12/2023 21:15

I'd be tempted to stay home. Is there a shop open that you can buy food at? Xx

Thegoodbadandugly · 24/12/2023 21:20

Take a high chair or sit her on your knee, I guess there's only so many you can sit round the table.

MeridianB · 24/12/2023 21:23

YADNBU. Your MIL sounds pretentious and cold. And as others have said who does she think will magically look after your DD while you’re eating? I’d put money on her expecting it to be you rather than DH!

cyclamenqueen · 24/12/2023 21:53

Thegoodbadandugly · 24/12/2023 21:20

Take a high chair or sit her on your knee, I guess there's only so many you can sit round the table.

The MIL has already said no to this .

TotHappy · 24/12/2023 21:56

Whats the point of going if she can't be included? So shit to spring this on you last minute

Namechangeforthis11111 · 24/12/2023 21:58

Draw a firm line. Say your daughter is your priority and you will absolutely not put her in a position where she is excluded. Offer to bring a highchair (bring something to go under it to protect the carpet) or if this is not possible say you will be spending the day as a family. Get DH to send it if possible, as they are his relatives.

We had similar with an extremely fussy SIL who still lives at home and cannot handle any mess or noise (absolutely anything, a dropped bread crust, touching a glass door because of the potential to leave finger marks, etc..). We ended up avoiding going to the parents in law for years, but should have clearly drawn a line as the fussiness/criticism remains.

It is bizarre people will prioritize excessive neatness and appearances at a dinner table over the youngest family members.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/12/2023 22:02

Bring the high chair. It doesn’t need to come right up to the table as it has a tray presumably?

If that’s not possible she sits on your DH’s lap, and then moves to yours a bit later on so he can finish off his food.

catwithflowers · 24/12/2023 22:13

Really sad that anyone would feel like this. Christmas is about families getting together. And that includes babies, the elderly, awkward teenagers. I can't understand child free weddings either but that's a whole other ball game!!!

OP I hope it all works out well for you and that you have a lovely Christmas.

londonmummy1966 · 24/12/2023 23:03

as last year she was so little I missed it as she was fussy and u settled so had mine microwaved after everyone else.

SO this year their DS will be looking after the little one and missing Christmas lunch = not I suspect what the PILS were expecting - little woman not part of family can miss dinner again. If their beloved son misses dinner they may rethink next year....

BritneyBookClubPresident · 24/12/2023 23:46

Where are they expecting DD to be!? Are they presuming she'll nap or is she meant to amuse herself during lunch?

At 16 months I would expect her to be allowed in a high chair next to you or DH

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