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To say its not my problem she's forgotten

186 replies

redd9 · 23/12/2023 09:11

My husband is currently away visiting his family abroad for Christmas. We have a young toddler so we decided I and our child would not go this time, we see them throughout the year anyway. Husbands older DC were also in school until yesterday so haven't gone either.

He is back tomorrow afternoon.

DSC was supposed to come to us today for a week, our usual time, but DH spoke to ex when this was booked and she agreed to keep DSC for the extra night until he was home tomorrow, as we have also always done for her when she's needed us to.

She has now "forgotten" and is insisting DSC will have to come here as she has plans. Well first it was plans and now it's apparently work. I suspect its a night out
but that she's decided working sounds more important.

Thing is, I also have plans! I have a family meal with my parents and siblings and then my parents were going to keep toddler overnight so I could go and see a friend for a few wines at hers.

I've said I appreciate its not usually her time to have DSC but she did agree to this ages ago and as such it's not my problem she's now forgotten and I won't be cancelling what I'm doing to have them. Had toddler alone all week so looking forward to some time tonight before the Christmas madness.

Aibu? Admittedly I'm not the fondest of DHs ex and that's for a number of reasons over the past.

OP posts:
blackberrychutney · 23/12/2023 12:13

Do you have proof she agreed to it OP? Like a text you can send back to her? Sounds stressful but I wouldn't get involved, DH needs to deal with this - you go ahead with your plans as normal.

mottytotty · 23/12/2023 12:24

Sugarsun · 23/12/2023 10:39

He’s the one that needed the ex/OP to have his kids.

If he’d kept to the dates, then this wouldn’t have been an issue.

So the very least he can do is offer to pay for a babysitter.

It’s great that they can be flexible with the dates but if it means one of them missing out on their plans by doing the other a favour, then they should offer to pay for a babysitter.

Did you miss the bit where DH has kids on ex’s day to help her out?

Are you saying ex should pay for a babysitter when DH has the kids on her days?

Friedfriedplantain · 23/12/2023 12:24

How certain are you that he's even going to be back in time for Christmas? That would my bigger worry right now, especially post Covid when travel is pretty unreliable at the best of times

Lol no it isn't. We live overseas by necessity for DH's work and travel constantly, including at Christmas. It's not that bloody bad! Stop catastrophising at OP, it's highly unlikely her DH will have problems getting back for Christmas.

TrashedSofa · 23/12/2023 12:25

BoredofBlonde · 23/12/2023 11:56

Anyone who genuinely has been asked last minute to work will ALWAYS say that in the first instance.

Not change it from "I have made a mistake" to "I have to work"

Yeah, if it were actually a work shift then why delay saying it?

Fundays12 · 23/12/2023 12:25

This isn't your issue it's the mum's. As long as you are sure your DH agreed this in advance neither of you have done anything wrong. Get out of the house early even if it means soft play for a couple of hours with your toddler and don't engage further with her. Enjoy your night with your friends.

mottytotty · 23/12/2023 12:27

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 11:45

I’m so in the minority here but I just feel I myself would take the hit and rearrange the thing with the friend just for the sake of the child not feeling they’re being passed about. That’s just me, op, I don’t think you’re unreasonable, I just feel for the sc.

That’s just me

Yes, that’s just you. And I’ve seen you on other threads encouraging step-mums to be doormats.

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 12:30

Or encouraging people to think of other people mottytotty. People can use phrases like people pleasing and doormats but sometimes it’s just about helping people. I come from a family of nurses who go above and beyond for people (Covid they went house to house making sure people were ok etc) and I love that because everyone needs a dig out sometimes.

notlucreziaborgia · 23/12/2023 12:44

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 12:30

Or encouraging people to think of other people mottytotty. People can use phrases like people pleasing and doormats but sometimes it’s just about helping people. I come from a family of nurses who go above and beyond for people (Covid they went house to house making sure people were ok etc) and I love that because everyone needs a dig out sometimes.

Thus making the stepmother more responsible for the kid’s feelings over the actual mother, who despite agreeing to swap has now decided she wants a night out instead. But obviously OP should cancel her plans with her own family, because that’s ‘helping’. It’s absolutely not being a doormat with tits 🫠

Perhaps the mother should be encouraged to think of her own daughter.

hot2trotter · 23/12/2023 12:56

Don't give it another thought OP, absolutely not your problem! Have a lovely evening

SeatonCarew · 23/12/2023 13:10

confusedaboutclothes · 23/12/2023 11:04

How do you know what her husband is like? Because he took some time out to see his family before Christmas? Which his wife was more than happy with?

If it was the other way round you’d be saying to OP that she deserves some time away to spend with her family.

Strikes happen, shit happens, it doesn’t make him a bad husband, wow.

A responsible parent would not take the risk of not getting home for Christmas in these circumstances, given the highly foreseeable risk of delays and very little margin for error. In doing so he would leave two women to carry the burden of doing Christmas alone with their children.

Were a member of his family at death's door or some other extenuating circumstances at play then that would be different, but there is no indication of that from OP's posts.

He sounds irresponsible, and no, I would not be saying any different if it were the mother rather than the father.

SeatonCarew · 23/12/2023 13:11

Friedfriedplantain · 23/12/2023 12:24

How certain are you that he's even going to be back in time for Christmas? That would my bigger worry right now, especially post Covid when travel is pretty unreliable at the best of times

Lol no it isn't. We live overseas by necessity for DH's work and travel constantly, including at Christmas. It's not that bloody bad! Stop catastrophising at OP, it's highly unlikely her DH will have problems getting back for Christmas.

I am married to a husband who worked abroad all week every week for several decades. I also spend half my life abroad nowadays. Perhaps I speak from experience?

Dontcallmescarface · 23/12/2023 13:14

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 11:52

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo
I don’t see it as people pleasing to be honest, I’ve had a few people pull me out of jams in the past and I’d hate the thought of a kid being passed about around Christmas time. op’s not unreasonable, it’s just I myself would reorganise my plans and maybe take the child to the family thing and try and reorganise or get the friend over or something. Just to help/ for the kid’s sake

So SM has to suck it up because actual mum couldn't say " no, sorry I can't work/go out as I have DC then"? Why should SM's be held to a higher account than the parents?

Crumpleton · 23/12/2023 13:15

The ex could also unchange her late plans she made while conveniently forgetting she was to have her own DC for one extra day. She'll be child free all next week until Saturday.

Hopefully shell remember that it's her week that also falls on New year's eve and hasn't made any plans.
Or is that a whole new post.

Sodndashitall · 23/12/2023 13:17

geekone · 23/12/2023 11:53

I absolutely agree. I don’t think the OP is unreasonable at all but I feel for kids not wanted by anyone at Christmas. Now I know that sounds dramatic but that’s what it will feel like to them.

I feel for them, that doesn’t mean it’s the OPs responsibility but it’s still just a bit sad.

It's one day not the whole of Christmas! Not even Christmas day or eve!

ShakeNvacStevens · 23/12/2023 13:47

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 11:52

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo
I don’t see it as people pleasing to be honest, I’ve had a few people pull me out of jams in the past and I’d hate the thought of a kid being passed about around Christmas time. op’s not unreasonable, it’s just I myself would reorganise my plans and maybe take the child to the family thing and try and reorganise or get the friend over or something. Just to help/ for the kid’s sake

If we're approaching this scenario from the "for the kids sake" point of view then the onus is on mum to have the DC tonight much more than OP. No matter how lovely OP is I'm sure the children would prefer to be with their actual mother as opposed to step mother.

stayathomer · 23/12/2023 13:47

notlucreziaborgia
ah I do agree both with you and everyone, it’s just people don’t change in a day and the kids have to go somewhere, that was honestly all I meant, just horrible they’re shunted around and not the op’s fault at all

Terrrence · 23/12/2023 13:53

Poor DC.

It's your night with them. I'd take them.

ChristmasSugarplumFairy · 23/12/2023 13:55

Terrrence · 23/12/2023 13:53

Poor DC.

It's your night with them. I'd take them.

Problem solved, OP!
Let ex know that Terrence will take the kids so she can have her night out.

WorriedMum231 · 23/12/2023 13:55

lol it wouldn’t be DHs problem either. She’s already agreed, it’s her problem.

MorphandMindy · 23/12/2023 13:58

Terrrence · 23/12/2023 13:53

Poor DC.

It's your night with them. I'd take them.

No, it's THEIR DAD's night with them, and he's not in the country. Failing that, it's their other parent's job to make childcare arrangements, not another adult who is a) busy anyway and b) has also managed to arrange childcare for her OWN child.

Would I give up a childfree night to babysit someone else's children, even if I loved them dearly? Not a hope in hell.

5128gap · 23/12/2023 14:06

No. Its your husband's responsibility to make plans for his child. And he did. With their mum. If their mum can no longer cover for him as planned, then she needs to tell him so he can come up with something else. However, this may well be that your husband asks you to step in. So you might want to think about what you'll do then. Its his cover that's fallen through, and he may well ask you to be back up. So while she's cheeky making direct contact with you, it might amount to the same thing anyway.

pinkyredrose · 23/12/2023 14:08

But obviously OP should cancel her plans with her own family, because that’s ‘helping’. It’s absolutely not being a doormat with tits 🫠

😂

notlucreziaborgia · 23/12/2023 14:13

5128gap · 23/12/2023 14:06

No. Its your husband's responsibility to make plans for his child. And he did. With their mum. If their mum can no longer cover for him as planned, then she needs to tell him so he can come up with something else. However, this may well be that your husband asks you to step in. So you might want to think about what you'll do then. Its his cover that's fallen through, and he may well ask you to be back up. So while she's cheeky making direct contact with you, it might amount to the same thing anyway.

He did. Now he’s not in the country and the only person available to look after them is their mother.

Yes, he could ask OP to help if he’s approached by their mother, but OP has plans and can say no. Presumably he knows of OP’s plans though, so hopefully he’d tell her that OP isn’t available (given that she isn’t). That means it’s on the mother to look after her own kid.

It’s hardly inevitable that regardless of whether she’s asked by her husband or his ex that OP has to assume responsibility for her.

ReallyAgainReally · 23/12/2023 14:13

mottytotty · 23/12/2023 12:27

That’s just me

Yes, that’s just you. And I’ve seen you on other threads encouraging step-mums to be doormats.

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LOL. I am strict, but kind. Not even if I was doing nothing would I take on a 10 and 12 yo on, on my own, plus my child (so 3 kiddies- I love kids), 2 days before Christmas when no doubt OP will be doing much if not all the cooking for the family. OP needs all the down time she can get before the Christmas madness as she rightly calls it. Also, did she even buy non Christmas food enough for the 2 kids a day earlier than expected? Yes. OP's flight might be delayed too for x-mas.

ReallyAgainReally · 23/12/2023 14:18

pinkyredrose · 23/12/2023 14:08

But obviously OP should cancel her plans with her own family, because that’s ‘helping’. It’s absolutely not being a doormat with tits 🫠

😂

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