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To think they are all cheeky bastards

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Helluvawomen · 18/12/2023 12:05

I booked to go to a theatre show for the team I manage for our Christmas night out. We all agreed on the show and I'm sure they would have all been aware of the cost when they looked and agreed on the show.

I was expecting them to sort the money out that night and transfer the £20.

not one person has mentioned the money.

If your boss had booked a show for a Christmas night out would you assume it was a present or would you have been like “thanks for booking, here’s the cash”

OP posts:
flibbertigiblets · 19/12/2023 21:40

@Helluvawomen I agree a message is still the right way to go. That way you may get some thanks and even recoup some of the money. I get £20 is a lot for people before Christmas but you spending £120 more than you intended is also a big expense when you only earn £2k before tax more than your team!

Helluvawomen · 19/12/2023 22:07

I’ve just written it off and learnt my lesson to be clearer next time.

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OldPerson · 19/12/2023 23:16

I think you're very young. If the manager organises a Christmas work night out, you'd absolutely expect it to be a company perk. You're their boss, not their mate. What did your company do to show appreciation for them at Christmas? Why did you organise anything in the first place and why weren't you clear on payments and deadlines so people could budget if they wanted to come?

Helluvawomen · 19/12/2023 23:23

OldPerson · 19/12/2023 23:16

I think you're very young. If the manager organises a Christmas work night out, you'd absolutely expect it to be a company perk. You're their boss, not their mate. What did your company do to show appreciation for them at Christmas? Why did you organise anything in the first place and why weren't you clear on payments and deadlines so people could budget if they wanted to come?

I’m 32

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T1Dmama · 20/12/2023 12:38

Personably I’d have asked for the money but guess it’s too late now!
Next time a work meal or night out is mentioned so not say you’ll book anything!! Or say I’ll look into costa and let you all know how much!!
id be tempted to say ‘can someone else book it this year as no one paid me last year!!’

Even if I assumed my boss was paying I have to say I’d clarify it by text or something and ask outright ‘how much please?’….. mainly because I wouldn’t assume it was free and literally because I couldn’t afford to go if it was they’re tickets and a meal.

T1Dmama · 20/12/2023 12:42

(Sorry correcting typos)

**Personably I’d have asked for the money but guess it’s too late now!
Next time a work meal or night out is mentioned DO not say you’ll book anything!! Or say I’ll look into costS and let you all know how much!!
id be tempted to say ‘can someone else book it this year as no one paid me last year!!’

Even if I assumed my boss was paying I have to say I’d clarify it by text or something and ask outright ‘how much please?’….. mainly because I wouldn’t assume it was free and literally because I couldn’t afford to go if it was THEATRE tickets and a meal.

velvetoptions · 20/12/2023 12:49

id be tempted to say ‘can someone else book it this year as no one paid me last year!!’

and end the christmas period with your team on a high 🙄

bedbugsandbedsheets · 21/12/2023 11:28

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ellyeth · 03/01/2024 13:00

To be honest, I would assume that, as manager of the team, this was your Christmas treat to them. Had you expected them to pay, you should have told them the ticket price and asked them if they wanted to go.

I don't know what size your work team is but if it were just a few people - say no more than 10 - I would have paid for it myself - unless you footed the bill for something else - a meal beforehand for instance.

MILTOBE · 03/01/2024 13:11

But would you assume that if there were several going and your manager only earned £2,000 more per year?

MILTOBE · 03/01/2024 13:13

OldPerson · 19/12/2023 23:16

I think you're very young. If the manager organises a Christmas work night out, you'd absolutely expect it to be a company perk. You're their boss, not their mate. What did your company do to show appreciation for them at Christmas? Why did you organise anything in the first place and why weren't you clear on payments and deadlines so people could budget if they wanted to come?

All you have shown here is that you are incapable of reading the OP's posts.

ellyeth · 03/01/2024 13:41

Sorry, I should have read all of the OP's posts. In the distant past I too worked for the NHS and know that nothing comes for free - we even paid for tea and coffee. So I do see that the OP's work colleagues should probably have been aware that there are no funds available for work dos - and that the OP is on a very similar income to their own.

Nevertheless, I think the cost of the tickets should have been mentioned beforehand, to make it absolutely clear that it was not a gift. I think the OP has accepted this now - but I agree that a thank you would have been courteous.

housethatbuiltme · 03/01/2024 19:59

MILTOBE · 03/01/2024 13:11

But would you assume that if there were several going and your manager only earned £2,000 more per year?

As the boss she gets paid more, £2000 more and £2000 is almost 10% more... its literally more than a whole months salary on top of what the other employees get.

Ticket was £20 so OP spent 1% each of just this 'extra' money she gets on a Christmas excursion. (For all 6 thats 0.48% of overall annual salary so less than half a percent).

She has 6 employees so spent a whopping '6%' of the raise she makes above their pay grade on a standard work Xmas treat... hardly anywhere near crazy numbers and yes something 'common' for a boss to do.

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