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To think (generationally) wealthy people are better looking?

318 replies

LylaLee · 16/12/2023 06:49

Yes, there are many men who would have married the 'homely' neighbour in order to join land or for alliance reasons.

But very often, a wealthy man 'gets to pick' a beautiful woman. Over several generations, surely this results in a better looking family overall. Whereas we plebs occasionally are randomly good looking, but not in the same way as a family with generation after generation of 'beauty injections' to their gene pool.

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CatNeedsFed · 16/12/2023 07:29

Underresourced children face more stress throughout their lives due to poorer nutrition, poorer health, likelihood of more ACEs and less opportunities. It speeds up the ageing process at a cellular level and trauma experienced by parents and grandparents is also passed on genetically.

feralunderclass · 16/12/2023 07:29

roombaclean · 16/12/2023 07:24

Maybe intelligent, professional people but aristocracy? They are reliably unattractive.

Yes they might be, but they are usually all tall, thin and have great posture and cheekbones. That is more than half the battle!

VisionsOfSplendour · 16/12/2023 07:31

And conversely you almost never ever see a mugshot of anything other than weasel faced or overweight unattractive men

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:35

So true. Those crime watch “have you seen this man” photos. Dear oh dear. I used to do criminal law years ago and pretty much all the clients were absolute munters.

notahappybunny7 · 16/12/2023 07:36

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:19

I won’t say or the locals will come at me with pitchforks. Once you see it you can’t unsee it though.

You’re behind a screen, don’t be a wuss!

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:36

Birmingham. Sorry.

HunterBidensBurnerPhone · 16/12/2023 07:38

Really? The royal family are all horse teeth, chinless wonders. The only good looking members are the commoners who married in.

Settingsdone · 16/12/2023 07:39

Without meaning to cause offence to royalists on here, what about the Royal Family? I wouldn’t describe them as a classically good looking family.

i would agree though that posh people do very often have fantasies hair.

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:40

Proves the point. They attract good looking commoners so their kids are likely more attractive.

Settingsdone · 16/12/2023 07:41

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:12

Also varies over region. Dh and I have twice visited a particular large city and it really struck us how unattractive the general population looked compared to where we lived. Not pc to say but we couldn’t help but notice.

This is such a weird comment. Assuming you visited the central area of whichever city you’re referring to they would probably be tourists anyway.

RiderofRohan · 16/12/2023 07:42

Settingsdone · 16/12/2023 07:39

Without meaning to cause offence to royalists on here, what about the Royal Family? I wouldn’t describe them as a classically good looking family.

i would agree though that posh people do very often have fantasies hair.

Exactly. Though the royals were inbred until a couple generations ago. Maybe Meg and Kate's kids will have a chance.

Frasers · 16/12/2023 07:42

HunterBidensBurnerPhone · 16/12/2023 07:38

Really? The royal family are all horse teeth, chinless wonders. The only good looking members are the commoners who married in.

I don’t think that’s true at all, the queen, Philip were both conventionally attractive when younger. The queen very much so. As was Margaret. Anne was also very attractive, andrew arguably good looking, Charles in my view less so, but plenty did think he was attractive when he was young. William annd Harry also good looking in most peoples eyes. Also plenty in the wider family.

Settingsdone · 16/12/2023 07:42

Also Tattle are going to have a field day with this thread 😉

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:43

Posh people generally aren’t that attractive though & generationally wealthy people tend to be posh. Even in Hollywood where many people are beautiful the dc end up getting lots of surgery to become good looking.

I do money leads to less stress, better nutrition, access to healthcare so people are healthier, taller & fitter. But beautiful faces tend to be a rare genetic freak of nature. Look at how many supermodels have average looking parents & siblings.

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:43

No we stayed with friends and were wandering round a park in a suburban area. Then we went again to see a band in a club full of locals. Both times we noticed this.

Blueblell · 16/12/2023 07:44

I don’t know anything about genetics but do two beautiful people = a beautiful child? I mean it must go wrong sometimes

Frasers · 16/12/2023 07:45

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:43

Posh people generally aren’t that attractive though & generationally wealthy people tend to be posh. Even in Hollywood where many people are beautiful the dc end up getting lots of surgery to become good looking.

I do money leads to less stress, better nutrition, access to healthcare so people are healthier, taller & fitter. But beautiful faces tend to be a rare genetic freak of nature. Look at how many supermodels have average looking parents & siblings.

thats ludicrous. How can you say posh people are generally unattractive, lol. Some are attractive, some aren’t. Like any other demographic.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:46

I don’t think that’s true at all, the queen, Philip were both conventionally attractive when younger. The queen very much so. As was Margaret. Anne was also very attractive, andrew arguably good looking, Charles in my view less so, but plenty did think he was attractive when he was young. William annd Harry also good looking in most peoples eyes. Also plenty in the wider family.

Andrew was attractive when young but aged badly & William lost his hair. The rest are very average facially

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:48

How can you say posh people are generally unattractive, lol.

I don’t think they are looking at the posh families I know of & flicking through Tatler. To me they all have a particular look. Granted it’s generally the men who are less attractive but I think their genes tend to dominate!

feralunderclass · 16/12/2023 07:49

TheaBrandt · 16/12/2023 07:36

Birmingham. Sorry.

I thought you were going to say Bradford. I've never seen so many toothless people in my life. Weirdly it was only the white people, I didn't see any toothless Asians.

funnylugs · 16/12/2023 07:49

I think it is more the case that generational poverty wears down individuals and communities. There is a huge division between the rich and the poor in this country. I believe it is one of the most economically unequal places in Europe. Unfortunately, this division is reflected in the faces and the prospects of people. I live in an area of significant economic deprivation, and the population are not ugly, they just look poor, tired, stressed and perhaps unhealthy.

'The Rich' don't come here, but even if they did bless us with their 'good genes', it would not take long for the environment and the poverty to grind down the blessed individuals.

There was a time, fortunately now largely forgotten, when arguments were put forward towards promoting good breeding among the rich and elite, and limiting the procreative choices of the poor. The 'Poor' were observed to have bad health, bad teeth, they were smaller, weaker, more prone to disability than the 'Rich', and thus presumed to come from a weaker stock than the more privileged. The danger is that once we introduce genes into the equation between wealth and greater attractiveness, we are a little closer to revisiting the nightmare of quasi-eugenics that marred decades of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.

Yet, it would be possible to show the probability of attractiveness is not primarily genetic. We could take a baby from the most privileged area, and swap it with a baby from the least (and vice versa) and the impact of the children's environments would soon outweigh their genetic predispositions. No-one looks attractive with poor teeth, bad nutrition and constant anxiety about meeting their basic needs.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:50

I do think actual posh people tend to marry in the same circles though so smaller gene pool I guess.

Tulipsroses · 16/12/2023 07:51

Sometimes the life path of a wealthier person will make him/her more attractive. Better education would mean a more confident person with better personal charisma which sometime seem by far more important then looks.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 07:53

There is a huge division between the rich and the poor in this country. I believe it is one of the most economically unequal places in Europe

Aren’t UK children smaller now than European counterparts. I’m tallish (5ft 10) & in Sweden & the Netherlands most women are my height.

Deliadidit · 16/12/2023 07:57

Frasers · 16/12/2023 07:42

I don’t think that’s true at all, the queen, Philip were both conventionally attractive when younger. The queen very much so. As was Margaret. Anne was also very attractive, andrew arguably good looking, Charles in my view less so, but plenty did think he was attractive when he was young. William annd Harry also good looking in most peoples eyes. Also plenty in the wider family.

Beauty really must be in the ‘eye of the beholder’ if this is what you see…

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