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AIBU?

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To feel deflated after a charity xmas do hearing a paid worker saying it was a 'free lunch' for them?

437 replies

YNK · 11/12/2023 23:45

I had an injury and joined a great charity group a few years ago to meet for coffee once a week and to enjoy activities and support each other.

Some members are in residential care due to the severity of their condition so they are always accompanied by carers, others have fully recovered.
Members pay for activities and weekly meetings and pay happily and willingly for the chance to meet and socialise.

Some members have suffered and been compensated legally for injuries caused and many are now financially secure and if assistance is provided, I feel this 'them and us' divide is hurtful.

After a very nice xmas lunch, as we were leaving a group of paid carers could be heard saying it was at least a decent 'free lunch'

I feel grubby now and I'm thinking of leaving the group - AIBU?

OP posts:
Bitchassmosquito · 12/12/2023 07:42

Tbf these women were being a bit ungrateful if they were there as guests. I can see why you’re put out.

Try not to get to worked up about it though. People come out with all kinds of snark that they wouldn’t want people to overhear when talking amongst themselves. It’s why they say you should never eavesdrop (not saying you were eavesdropping by the way).

SmokySilverShine · 12/12/2023 07:44

It’s nice to be invited out for a thank you meal, but these things all come at a price.
it’s their time being given up, so the persons comment, that at least the meal was good, is understandable.
No matter what you think, it sounds like this group were obligated and attended in good grace, but it wasn’t really something they would choose to do, but did do.
Most carers I would imagine are on minimum wage, so it’s their precious underpaid time they are given up to be there.
And the comment that it was a decent lunch should be taken well. So many of these catered events involve horrible meals, and I’ve been to a few Christmas event over the years to testify to this.

You are overthinking this, but if I were you I’d ignore this thread now, forget about it and have a lovely Christmas .
At least you all had a good meal, and that’s something good to take away from this

FiveShelties · 12/12/2023 07:46

Isn't there a saying something like - eavesdroppers never hear good things - or something like that?

Roselilly36 · 12/12/2023 07:46

So you would consider leaving a group, that has helped and supported you though a difficult stage in your life, due to a throwaway, but factual comment, by a paid carer. That is entirely your choice, but it doesn’t make much sense.

Goldcrestonabranch · 12/12/2023 07:48

who on earth gets upset about care workers (who are probably on a very low wage) getting a free lunch? seriously?

gannett · 12/12/2023 07:49

OP's attitude is rotten enough to start with but there's a significant portion of this site that believes the staff should be in a permanent state of bowing, scraping and forelock-tugging. That seems to apply to anyone who works in retail, hospitality and obviously caring too.

The absurdly over-dramatic reaction makes it pathetic as well as rotten. Maybe you felt it wasn't gracious in the moment, whatever. Roll your eyes and move on. Wailing about the glue of your group dissolving at length on the internet is ridiculous. Get a grip.

Borth · 12/12/2023 07:52

YNK · 12/12/2023 02:28

Yes I feel my boundaries have been disrespected and more to the point those who are forced to be passive recipients of this disrespect.
They were not forced or obliged to accept our invitation.

You need to develop some boundaries. They are not your friends but paid staff. You have a very odd perception of the relationship.

Charityworker123 · 12/12/2023 07:53

I’ve work for a few charities and was a carer in one role. Nothing to do with fundraising side at all.

I had to attend events to show ‘gratitude’ to the fundraisers so they could see what they’re paying for. Often in my own time for free. I probably didn’t seem 100% grateful to be there, because I wasn’t.

RachelSTG · 12/12/2023 07:53

To add, I was a carer for 14 years, the free lunches are monotonous - we would rather a decent wage so we didn't need to work 60 hour weeks.

inamarina · 12/12/2023 07:56

Pookerrod · 12/12/2023 01:31

Oh come off it, you’re now going too far. You gave a bunch of minimum wage workers a bit of a Christmas do. Nothing more, nothing less. And you expect them to fall over themselves with gratitude. And in fact, they were grateful, for the nice free meal! What more do you expect?

This is how I see it too, tbh. They’re people doing an important and not particularly easy job, most likely for not very much money.
You might have felt ‘privileged’ and ‘honoured’ on similar occasions, that doesn’t mean they have to see it the same way. They’re doing their job, they’re not being paid to be friends.
Of course it’s not your friends’ fault that they require help, but it sounds like they have a lovely, supportive community already.

Harrysutton · 12/12/2023 08:01

So the carers don't normally come to sessions, they were at a lunch with a lot of people they have never met before. Perhaps they are very social people and found going to a busy Christmas lunch with people they don't know out of their comfort zone. Or perhaps you're reading too much in to the 'at least'. Maybe they are struggling with money and that will be the only Christmas meal out they get this year. Obviously we've no idea of the intent or what else is going on on their lives.

you didn't hear them say I hate my job, can't stand x person so give them a break.

TomeTome · 12/12/2023 08:02

I get very tired of “they’re on a very low wage” being used as an excuse to be unkind or thoughtless. I meet a lot if carers out and about as I’m a parent carer and we don’t use paid carers. It’s not immediately obvious that ds is my ds not least because his Dad and I are from very different parts of the world and so I see and hear a fairly uncensored version of “care”.
There are of course some respectful kind and dedicated carers but they are by no means all behaving like that. Some of the attitudes expressed are hard to witness. I would have been upset in OPs position to hear someone being so rude. It is of course worse because for many it will have been a rare treat to be there and while they are I’m sure very aware that others have better experiences, how utterly insensitive to have voiced that in that company.

Honestly OP I think I’d say something to him. Pissing on someone’s party with his boorish behaviour is I hope an accident, but best to try to avoid it happening again.

Cazziebo · 12/12/2023 08:03

Probably the only "perk" they get all year!

willWillSmithsmith · 12/12/2023 08:04

I can understand you would feel disappointed at the comment as it is a bit rude but I don’t understand why it would make you feel ‘grubby’? That seems rather dramatic.

Butchyrestingface · 12/12/2023 08:05

After a very nice xmas lunch, as we were leaving a group of paid carers could be heard saying it was at least a decent 'free lunch'

If that was all you heard anyway, you can’t know the context. One person might have said “Jesus Christ, my seat was really uncomfortable/sitting beneath those speakers blasting out wall to wall Christmas songs has given me a thumping headache”, and their pal responded, “but at least it was a decent free lunch”. Or maybe they’ve been invited to “free lunches” in the past which were horrible.

Whatever the case, I don’t think the group can mean that much to you if you’re contemplating leaving over a throwaway remark you heard from someone who isn’t even a member.

Behindyouiam · 12/12/2023 08:06

If you don't go you'd be cutting your nose off to spite your face!

Neriah · 12/12/2023 08:07

YNK · 11/12/2023 23:55

Yes it was a fact, and before my injury I had a position where I attended events in a similar capacity but I felt privileged and honoured to be invited, not that it was a compensation.

I really don't feel this was a comment in the xmas spirit at all.

I don't think your post is in the Xmas spirit at all.

Perhaps you should think about the fact that these are people who work extermely hard for what is usually a pittance, that it is a job and nothing else, and that it is very unreasonable of you to consider a working lunch is something they should feel "privileged and honoured" to attend. They are employees, not Downton Abbey servants.

DitheringBlidiot · 12/12/2023 08:08

YNK · 12/12/2023 00:09

I have no issue at all with them getting a free lunch and as I said I have enjoyed activities myself in this capacity although I didn't feel it was compensation.

I don't feel that my contribution was accepted in the spirit it was given.

What contribution? Sorry I'm having a hard time following you here, I'm not trying to be difficult.

widowtwankywashroom · 12/12/2023 08:09

Did they not curtsey to you and doff their cap OP?
Did they not gorvel enough?
Please leave the group, but be sure to do a big speach before you flounce saying how much you resent them having a free lunch at this time of year, to thank them for the back breaking, underpaid work they do all year!

Clawdy · 12/12/2023 08:09

Cupcakekiller · 12/12/2023 00:06

Caring is a tough job and usually underpaid. You'd begrudge them a free Xmas meal?

Exactly what I was thinking.

MammaTo · 12/12/2023 08:09

You keep contradicting yourself saying they are being paid but are invited as friends? It’s one or the other really, if they’re being paid then they are there under obligation to care for your friends while at the lunch - they are still working at the event.

JoyeuxNarwhal · 12/12/2023 08:12

YNK · 12/12/2023 00:09

I have no issue at all with them getting a free lunch and as I said I have enjoyed activities myself in this capacity although I didn't feel it was compensation.

I don't feel that my contribution was accepted in the spirit it was given.

So you're ok with them having a free lunch @YNK but you just don't want to hear them say it was a free lunch?!. That's rather odd.

QueSyrahSyrah · 12/12/2023 08:13

Kindly OP, I think you're overreacting. My job role is very different, but I sometimes get invited to things that are outside of work time, entirely optional and intended as a Thank You or an appreciation of business we've done together. There's generally a few of them at this time of year.

I don't always want to go, and certainly don't always enjoy them, but I go anyway because it's the correct thing to do when I've been invited in a professional capacity. The social contract, as it were.

I'd probably save the crass comments about a free meal until I was out of earshot, granted.

As long as you and your friends had an enjoyable time that's the main thing.

Infusedwithfigandhoney · 12/12/2023 08:14

You sound like you want to control how others feel about the event/ group.
To you it's a massive part of your life , to them it's a job.
Also the bit about those with compensation/ carers sounds really unpleasant .

It's a bit like expecting Nurses to be angels Hmm and being annoyed that they are human like the rest of us.
I agree it's a massive over reaction on your part to say you want to leave.

TomeTome · 12/12/2023 08:18

It was rude.
it would have been rude if he was paid or unpaid and if the other participants were chuffed at the event or had just heaved themselves there to support their group.

He upset OP and is likely to have upset others.

What an ill mannered individual.

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