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Constantly changing his mind about marriage and I'm so miserable

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Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 05/12/2023 17:18

I feel pathetic and weak. We've been together for several years, I earn £32k, his earnings vary, but he's on a full-time wage. He feels insecure about not having a 'career' which I understand, and I'm constantly trying to help him.
Anyway, he's changed his mind about committing to me around 6 times.
He told me he doesn't think he can provide a nice life for me. I told him I'm not interested in how much he makes, as long as he contributes that's more than enough, I am making my own money.
He told me he wants to give me a big wedding. I told him I'd get married in a pair of jeans and a t shirt tbh, and a nice meal afterwards, I want to marry for love and commitment, I have no interest in a big wedding or an expensive ring.
I could tell him all this until I'm blue in the face but it wouldn't make any difference.
I've packed my bags to leave but then he started saying he 100% wants to marry me. So I believed him. Then after this, he asked if he could have more time to 'think it over'.
He's done this several times now, said he wants it then changed his mind.
I'm 35 and have been very, very clear that I will not be waiting forever. He's younger at 30, but he's hardly some 19 year old.
He says our child would be in poverty if we had one..
Then he says stuff like friends x and y are engaged because they've got more money.
I didn't think commitment was only reserved to the very well off.
I'm miserable and feel trapped. Then he said something about me not being transparent about finances, it's not true but if that's what he thinks fair enough. He has more in savings than me, I've told him what I have.
When I tried to leave last time he was saying 'well it's clear you've made up your mind then' and the latest is that he 'doesnt like to plan ahead and can't imagine too far into the future '. What on earth do I believe.

OP posts:
TheRealProfessorYaffle · 08/12/2023 14:19

Love isn't enough. It's important, but it's not even within sniffing distance of enough for a life long relationship. Glad you're making plans.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/12/2023 14:28

TheRealProfessorYaffle · 08/12/2023 14:19

Love isn't enough. It's important, but it's not even within sniffing distance of enough for a life long relationship. Glad you're making plans.

Arranged marriages suggest love isn't that important. They seem to manage fine.

toomuchfaff · 08/12/2023 14:52

Toomuchcawfee · 05/12/2023 17:28

He’s future faking you until someone better comes along:

https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-spot-future-faking-in-narcissistic-relationships-7968853

Dont waste time on him OP. He won’t ever committ. And when you do try to leave (again) don’t get sucked back in by future faking promises.

This...

Start watching some narcissist videos and how to spot them on youtube; google it.

Leave this manchild, get away from him and do it quickly.

DaisyAster · 08/12/2023 15:30

Well done OP, you're in shock at the moment, everything will gradually begin to feel different and you will feel better. In the past I ended up as your boyfriend in this situation (not proud of that at all, I ended it) and you have done the best thing for both of you.

DaisyAster · 08/12/2023 15:31

Also, you say you don't feel very strong, I think you're showing great strength!

90sbab8 · 08/12/2023 15:35

He's telling you an absolute crock of s**t. It's all excuses to put it all off again and again. He's not sure about marrying you. I bet, if he met the woman of his dreams tomorrow, the excuses he's giving you would magically disappear and he'd be married within a year or two- I've seen it happen! Cut your losses x

tuvamoodyson · 08/12/2023 15:36

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 05/12/2023 17:24

There's a lovely bloke at work who's interested in me (he's not been disrespectful at all) and I'm choosing this instead.
I feel trapped because he acts completely devastated at the thought of me leaving and thn says he does want to marry me.

He’s been devastated 6 times?

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 08/12/2023 16:51

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 12:37

My heart's broken tbh. I'm sure he did love me. I just feel cruel and selfish for some reason, I wonder if I've just thrown it all away.

He didn't love you!!! Sorry, but you wanted marriage and kids, you made that clear, and he couldn't be arsed!

He didn't even give you the time for a heart to heart talk about why he didn't want those things but still loved you very much, or anything like that. He just made a bunch of non committal grunts which for some reason kept you on your knees begging for crumbs. You're worth more than crumbs woman, come on, on your feet! Keep moving forward.

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 16:56

He just kept saying he's not in a financial position ATM..
He messaged earlier saying he wishes there was just one simple solution he could see before it was too late, whatever that means.

OP posts:
romdowa · 08/12/2023 17:06

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 16:56

He just kept saying he's not in a financial position ATM..
He messaged earlier saying he wishes there was just one simple solution he could see before it was too late, whatever that means.

It means nothing, just more cryptic bullshit.

LittleMy77 · 08/12/2023 17:16

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 16:56

He just kept saying he's not in a financial position ATM..
He messaged earlier saying he wishes there was just one simple solution he could see before it was too late, whatever that means.

He’s stringing you along. It’ll continue, especially if he thinks you won’t go back to him. Block him
and ignore

Bloodyel · 08/12/2023 17:27

My advice is have a rebound, perhaps with the one at work you mentioned, you might be inclined to listen to him when he inevitably tries more BS in the coming weeks/months otherwise. Remind yourself of your worth and have fun.

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:54

He's literally texting me now saying he wants to plan a future with me, and he's been realising he does want marriage and children but that he's scared of responsibility. I don't even know what to reply.

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Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:55

I am actually starting to feel more anger towards him now.

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isthewashingdryyet · 08/12/2023 17:57

Feed that anger, he has been stringing you along for years.

get really mad and then block him

senua · 08/12/2023 17:57

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:55

I am actually starting to feel more anger towards him now.

Good. Block him.

Toomuchcawfee · 08/12/2023 17:58

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:54

He's literally texting me now saying he wants to plan a future with me, and he's been realising he does want marriage and children but that he's scared of responsibility. I don't even know what to reply.

This alone tells you he’d be an absolute train wreck of a parent.

CavalierApproach · 08/12/2023 18:00

I’m not bloody surprised you’re angry!

Hold firm — you’ve done the right thing.

Catza · 08/12/2023 18:02

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:55

I am actually starting to feel more anger towards him now.

Good. Anger is good! You are swiftly progressing through stages of grief (and so does he as he is clearly trying to bargain now). My advice is to temporarily block him. A couple of days at least, preferably a couple of weeks. Then you can get your head straight and see him for what he is.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 08/12/2023 18:08

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:54

He's literally texting me now saying he wants to plan a future with me, and he's been realising he does want marriage and children but that he's scared of responsibility. I don't even know what to reply.

You reply "I gave you 4 years to see that's what you wanted and you blew them". Then you block him.

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/12/2023 18:10

Thefemaleofthespeciesismoredeadlythanthemale · 08/12/2023 17:54

He's literally texting me now saying he wants to plan a future with me, and he's been realising he does want marriage and children but that he's scared of responsibility. I don't even know what to reply.

That's quite vague. He's not exactly saying "Come off the pill tonight and we'll book a registry office on Xmas eve."

I'm not usually a LTB person but in this case I think he's 99pc not gonna give you what you need to be content with life and I think the 1pc would be a train wreck. At the first sleepless night he'll say "This is the life you wanted, not me, I'm off."

...and he'd have a point.

You've rolled the dice, go and stay gone.

TheAverageJoanne · 08/12/2023 18:11

GreenIsMyFavoriteColour · 08/12/2023 14:28

Arranged marriages suggest love isn't that important. They seem to manage fine.

Edited

I couldn't shag or marry someone I didn't love.

PickAChew · 08/12/2023 18:12

He's pathetic, isn't he. You've given him more than enough chances.

All you are throwing away is something broken. You've tried to fix it and it was unfixable.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 08/12/2023 18:20

People who want marriage and kids aren’t scared of responsibility, they want responsibility

Bloodyel · 08/12/2023 18:22

In several years time you'll have a family worthy of you and he'll at best be TTC with the aid of viagara because he's been fed lies that men stay perfectly fertile forever, which is not true, then at best he'll manage to impregnate someone young enough and she'll be confused as to why her children have brain and behavioural disorders when it's because his now aged sperms have produced ill children.