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218 replies

cherrychapstickk · 01/12/2023 18:07

hello,

As the title says really.

My 2 and 3 year old have been taken out for the afternoon by their aunt and uncle.

They ended up having them for around 4 and a half hours, I expected around 2 but they said they got carried away.

Once they'd left 3 year old burst into tears saying she was hungry (they normally have dinner at around 5) and it turns out (i checked with auntie) they've not eaten with them at all.

Had I known they were going to be 4 hours I'd of packed some food but as I didn't know and they got carried away, am I unreasonable for thinking its quite harsh not to offer your young nieces any food?

I cannot imagine having any of their children, especially at such a young age, for that duration of time and covering dinner time and not offering anything to eat whatsoever.

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NotToYou · 01/12/2023 20:06

Mine are similar ages (2 and 4) and I wouldn't have offered any food during that time assuming they'd had lunch before we left the house and would be eating dinner when they got home.

Not offering food every 3 hours is neglectful?? Ridiculous 😂 kids don't need to graze constantly.

Calliopespa · 01/12/2023 20:07

ImustLearn2Cook · 01/12/2023 20:04

@cherrychapstickk I am shocked at pp claiming that they would not have fed their 2 and 3 year old children any snacks in between meals. That is neglect. Children that age absolutely do need to eat at least breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea and dinner. And they absolutely should not be expected to go for 4.5 to 5 hours without food. They should be offered food at least 3 hourly.

If they are genuine parents and they genuinely didn’t feed their young children any food at all between meal times then they are neglectful parents and I would not listen to anything that they have to say about your situation.

Their auntie and uncle were completely irresponsible and neglectful. Next time they ask to take the kids say no. Then make it very clear why you saying no. Your children are not inconsequential and deserve to be treated better than that.

Any other normal decent person would have bought them something to eat. Especially as it was their decision to have your kids for that length of time.

Ours went longer. And we weren’t neglectful: their growth curves were perfect. My cousins DD is constantly snacking and never eats a full meal. I think it depends on the child. I really think it will have been an innocent mistake.

betterangels · 01/12/2023 20:07

Newmum110 · 01/12/2023 20:06

This exactly, I would always send their bag no matter how long they were going for & this would contain a drink & a snack.

Good point. Did you pack drinks to take?

cherrychapstickk · 01/12/2023 20:08

guys I've updated already, have already addressed several questions being asked.

everything is all good!

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MissFancyDay · 01/12/2023 20:09

A complete non issue.

Maybe worth a bit of private annoyance, but a thread on Mumsnet?

YouJustDoYou · 01/12/2023 20:09

My mum does this. She never feeds them properly, so doesn't get them anymore.

Calliopespa · 01/12/2023 20:09

NotToYou · 01/12/2023 20:06

Mine are similar ages (2 and 4) and I wouldn't have offered any food during that time assuming they'd had lunch before we left the house and would be eating dinner when they got home.

Not offering food every 3 hours is neglectful?? Ridiculous 😂 kids don't need to graze constantly.

Neither would I. Drinks are a bit different but ours always had one to hand. But food was a proper square meal, which they are.

Riverlee · 01/12/2023 20:09

I would have assumed they’d eaten lunch by then. Maybe 5.45pm is a little late, but not outrageous.

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/12/2023 20:10

Out of curiosity I asked DP who is about the least small child savvy person I know.

He would have offered snacks (of a probably inappropriate sugary nature) during that time frame. As would I.

Calliopespa · 01/12/2023 20:10

Sorry “ate.” If we let them graze they tended to pick at their meal

Penaeus · 01/12/2023 20:10

I am shocked at pp claiming that they would not have fed their 2 and 3 year old children any snacks in between meals. That is neglect

Of all the offensive, ridiculous tripe I've read on here over the past 20 years, this is right up there with the worst.

Generations of children weren't drip-fed all day. Society is experiencing an obesity crisis, with a dose of Type 2 diabetes for good measure. But people still insist that children need to be brought up with the idea that you spend the day "snacking".

What a pile of complete and utter crap.

To be a bit more polite, I think you will find that "child neglect" is something very different.

StarlightLime · 01/12/2023 20:11

LimePi · 01/12/2023 20:00

People on this thread who don’t see an issue are idiots.
young kids have lunch at 12/12-30 and then tea or big snack at 15/15-30. And then dinner at 5-6 pm.

They can’t go without food between 12-30 and 6 pm

Idiots, eh?
Not all children eat like that, no. Yours may have 🤷🏻‍♀️

ImustLearn2Cook · 01/12/2023 20:12

Preschoolers stomachs are too small to get all their nutritional requirements from only 3 meals a day. That is why they need at least 2 healthy snacks between meals such as fruit. And yes I do think it’s neglect to deny children their basic needs.

TommyNever · 01/12/2023 20:16

When my sister sent her two kids out for the afternoon at that sort of age, she'd always make sure they each took a wheelbarrow with a leg of ham or freshly roasted turkey in it.

There'd usually be very little left by the time they returned.

cherrychapstickk · 01/12/2023 20:17

MissFancyDay · 01/12/2023 20:09

A complete non issue.

Maybe worth a bit of private annoyance, but a thread on Mumsnet?

is anything on AIBU generally a major issue though? or is this actually a talk site for people to have discussions around, well, basically anything.

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cherrychapstickk · 01/12/2023 20:17

TommyNever · 01/12/2023 20:16

When my sister sent her two kids out for the afternoon at that sort of age, she'd always make sure they each took a wheelbarrow with a leg of ham or freshly roasted turkey in it.

There'd usually be very little left by the time they returned.

fantastic idea.

food and exercise in one

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JudgeJ · 01/12/2023 20:19

ChannelyourinnerElsa · 01/12/2023 18:15

I think if you don’t have kids, then you’d possibly assume that they would ask if they were hungry? And adults usually wouldn’t consider 1.45 - 5.45 to be over any meal times.

I recall taking out granddaughter out when she was about 2 and forgetting to feed her! We found a place eventually but she must have been ravenous.

bellac11 · 01/12/2023 20:20

LimePi · 01/12/2023 20:00

People on this thread who don’t see an issue are idiots.
young kids have lunch at 12/12-30 and then tea or big snack at 15/15-30. And then dinner at 5-6 pm.

They can’t go without food between 12-30 and 6 pm

What, where are you getting this from, your own head?

Children having snacks all the live long day is a fairly recent thing

JudgeJ · 01/12/2023 20:21

Should they have probably at least given snacks? Yes.

Depending on the age of the adults, 'snacking' didn't used to be a thing, I recall being astounded at the 'snack drawer'!

Thewondererhasreturned · 01/12/2023 20:22

I'm surprised they didn't offer the kids something to eat im sure looking at Christmas lights etc they passed food shops i would always get kids a snack if in my company and ask them if they are hungry. I wouldn't expect a 3 year old to tell me my 3 year old doesn't ask and needs prompting a lot. I dont think it was done with bad intent if she doesn't have kids she probably didn't think but definitely she should have offered or at least had snacks with her for them

bellac11 · 01/12/2023 20:23

ImustLearn2Cook · 01/12/2023 20:04

@cherrychapstickk I am shocked at pp claiming that they would not have fed their 2 and 3 year old children any snacks in between meals. That is neglect. Children that age absolutely do need to eat at least breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea and dinner. And they absolutely should not be expected to go for 4.5 to 5 hours without food. They should be offered food at least 3 hourly.

If they are genuine parents and they genuinely didn’t feed their young children any food at all between meal times then they are neglectful parents and I would not listen to anything that they have to say about your situation.

Their auntie and uncle were completely irresponsible and neglectful. Next time they ask to take the kids say no. Then make it very clear why you saying no. Your children are not inconsequential and deserve to be treated better than that.

Any other normal decent person would have bought them something to eat. Especially as it was their decision to have your kids for that length of time.

Neglect!

Lol

Calliopespa · 01/12/2023 20:24

Penaeus · 01/12/2023 20:10

I am shocked at pp claiming that they would not have fed their 2 and 3 year old children any snacks in between meals. That is neglect

Of all the offensive, ridiculous tripe I've read on here over the past 20 years, this is right up there with the worst.

Generations of children weren't drip-fed all day. Society is experiencing an obesity crisis, with a dose of Type 2 diabetes for good measure. But people still insist that children need to be brought up with the idea that you spend the day "snacking".

What a pile of complete and utter crap.

To be a bit more polite, I think you will find that "child neglect" is something very different.

Yes our paediatrician was not a fan of snacks as it was harder to regulate the balance. Good square meals with carbs, protein, veg and fruit to follow. Ours did have milk in between sometimes but snacks were only for timetable disrupted emergencies ( and on plane, train or long car trips as much as anything to keep them occupied). Children today are often fed constant snacks for that latter reason, and that is much closer to child neglect. They aren’t babies.

Moonshine5 · 01/12/2023 20:25

Only on Mumsnet is it considered normal to make very young children wait 5 hours between meals (with no refreshments). 😂
It's not.
Are these the parents that wash their bed sheets daily and eek a chicken out to feed their family for a week.

JudgeJ · 01/12/2023 20:25

Generations of children weren't drip-fed all day. Society is experiencing an obesity crisis, with a dose of Type 2 diabetes for good measure. But people still insist that children need to be brought up with the idea that you spend the day "snacking".

I've been surprised that parents collecting their child from school would have a mini-picnic for their child, surely they would be having their evening meal shortly after getting home.
Rather than being neglect to not feed a child with constant snacks I would suggest it's neglect to stuff a child with snacks all day.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 01/12/2023 20:28

I think if you don’t have kids, then you’d possibly assume that they would ask if they were hungry? And adults usually wouldn’t consider 1.45 - 5.45 to be over any meal times.

This! When I was a young auntie, I was always surprised at how often I had to feed the little blighters when I took them out - far more often than I would have thought of eating.

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