Grandad's Pride is being read on milkshake on channel 5 - not acceptable! AIBU

[grandadspride]

Milkshake story den.

Why are we reading books about pride, gender and drag to pre-school children.

Well, of course reader bias exists.

I agree op and so do most people I know in real life.
Just commenting so you don't feel gaslit by the "be nice" gang calling you a bigot

Exactly.

There are plenty of age appropriate books that could've been read out instead.

Heather has two mummies would have been a normal and sane choice.

No one here is disputing that. But you’re the one reporting people.

Posting on here that a trans man is a woman is not transphobia, it is a legally protected expression of a legally protected view.

So where exactly, on this thread, is the unlawful transphobia?

Agree, just read a nice review of the book & the story sounds really bloody lovely! Like such a sweet thing to do for her grandad (& late grampa) but even the nice review talked about some of the imagery being dubious & included the MAP as an image though didn't address it directly. The BDSM bit is obviously beyond the pale but I'm trying to understand why any author/illustrator wouldn't use 'atlas' in this very specific situation when MAP does have another established meaning.

I've got inclusivity limits...

Thank you

It’s sickening isn’t it. The people who write these things shouldn’t be anywhere near children.

Why is it so difficult for these authors to understand boundaries around children are there for safeguarding reasons? It's really not hard is it. Gay characters in picture books = good. Characters of any sexuality wearing sex gear in picture books = bad.

Absolutely. It's deeply disturbing that this boundary is being deliberately trampled on.

The BDSM bit is obviously beyond the pale but I'm trying to understand why any author/illustrator wouldn't use 'atlas' in this very specific situation when MAP does have another established meaning.

I've got inclusivity limits...

Also, don't we call them AtoZs anyway?

Nope, I just ask that people stop being transphobic.

Yes, there are issues with that book, yes there are issues with female only spaces, but being trans itself isn't something to be phobic about or unaccepting of.

No really, it is THE truth, reality, biology. A trans man is a trans identifying woman. They are female, born female, will die female.

Reporting this thread is simply following the ideology script, shut down free speech, shut down the truth. Do not permit debate or discussion.

Why is sex being placed central to young children's education.

Childhood is the only free place they can be themselves.

I grew up in then 70s boys and girls played out in old clothes and gender wasn't an issue.

Regressive sexual pressure. We need to leave these young minds alone

Again, if you have reader bias and refuse to see the blatant transphobia then I cannot change that.

Why do you believe that stating facts is transphobic? You do understand the difference between actual transphobia and ‘I don’t like what you said’ right?

I can assure you I'm not phobic of transpeople.

I don't believe humans, or indeed any other mammal, can change their sex.

I find it deeply sad that anyone would actually want to. I also believe the gender/sex change/alignment surgeries are making money from vulnerable people. Just look at Jazz Jennings.

But you could clarify your position by pointing out the transphobia that the rest of us aren't seeing.

Don't care much about men dressed as women saying their are trans - but wtf do those men need to be in bdsm gear, it needs reporting - it's disgusting promotion of porn like culture- bdsm is appropriate for under 18s? I am confused

It’s absolutely unacceptable and fucking disgusting. People too scared to be seen as “intolerant “ are allowing perverts to take over -a man in fetish gear in a children’s book???? Wtf??? With MAP in the picture? Peadophilic!! This has got to stop NOW

Ah, yes, 'it's biology', that old line trundled out when people often have little understanding of biology when it comes to complex issues like sexual development.

That's the important point - it's the deliberate transgressing of children's boundaries, an erosion of what's age inappropriate.
The importance of safeguarding children needs to be a far greater priority - especially for anyone who wants to talk to / write for children about any aspects of sex / sexuality.

I agree with you OP. I’ve just looked at the book on YouTube where the author reads it. Very disturbing for a book aimed at kids to be talking about gender and drag. As for the pictures, absolute sickos putting those in a book apparently for kids. I’m going to complain to the channel now.

Pretty much every post the OP has made, as already stated.
Continue with the bias, sure.

YANBU

I’ll ask again: where on this thread is the (apparently “blatant”) unlawful transphobia?

As you are seemingly unable to provide a single example, it rather seems that there isn’t any, and that you (ironically) are the one with “reader bias”.

Of course some people are born with differences of sexual development, but they are still very much male or female. There are only two sexes.