Grandad's Pride is being read on milkshake on channel 5 - not acceptable! AIBU

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Milkshake story den.

Why are we reading books about pride, gender and drag to pre-school children.

The pics of the kids with the dogs itt is fucking rank. That's an adult partaking in sexual thrills with a kid

It is both mind blowing and stomach turning that there are people who think sexual fetish wear has a place in general society

’Mummy, why is that man dressed as a dog?’

‘Well darling, that is an outfit that that person likes to wear when they’re having sex.’

Yep… perfectly acceptable 🙄

Personally, I don't care if people wear fetish gear in appropriate places or what they get up to in private. What I cannot understand is fully grown adults who bend over backwards to excuse clearly sexual behaviour around children and pretend to not understand what they are looking at. What is the purpose of that? Where is the plausible deniability? We're talking about pictures of men in fetish gear in a book aimed at toddlers. If you're excusing this, there's something very amiss with you.

I agree but then I think that about scrunch bum leggings too. And they're everyday fashion.

I mentioned Queer theory before. This might be interesting reading for anyone who wants to begin to understand how society has become so desensitised and dismissive of the sexual boundaries of children.

“Michael Foucault’s work on sexuality said that it was a discursive production rather than an essential part of a human, which came from his larger idea of power not being repressive and negative as productive and generative. In other words, power acts to make sexuality seem like a hidden truth that must be dug out and be made specific. Foucault refuses to accept that sexuality can be clearly defined, and instead focuses on the expansive production of sexuality within governments of power and knowledge.”

When you google Michel Foucault it turns out he was part of the movement to lower the age of consent in France. The movement that I first noticed reported a couple of years ago after reading that in France there was a rape case of an 11 year old girl exploring whether she consented to sex or not with a 33 year old.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/05/man-convicted-of-raping-girl-11-in-case-that-led-to-change-in-french-law

This article can also be found on google about Foucault and in archive sites if you wish to get around the paywall (archive dot is).

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-boys-in-tunisia-6t5sj7jvw

Effectively, one of the people considered the 'father' of the queer movement was instrumental in lowering the age of consent in France. It wasn't just him, it was a group of 'intellectuals' who were in positions of power or up and coming so to speak. They got the age of consent lowered to 14 and then some of those male people took 14 year old 'lovers'. It was all considered progressive. The idea was that a child can and should be able to consent to sex.

Queer Theory, which is part of Foucault's teachings, is all about lowering the sexual boundaries for society to make everything acceptable. All paraphilic behaviour should be considered acceptable in public. BDSM gear worn in public should be acceptable.

Child sex abuse is to be framed as acceptable 'because the child consented', or child sex abuse even indirectly such as those now rebranded as 'minor attracted persons' / MAPs should be acceptable. Why? Because apparently it causes no harm at all the children being abused. Even if that abuse is indirect via their images being used. This was how the 33 year old male was trying to plead not guilty to raping the 11 year old in the Guardian article above. They said the 11 year old 'wanted it'.

Dog play fetish gear... no worries! They are just people having fun dressing up and letting children pat them. They are NOT having sex right then and there, so some people figure 'what is the harm'?

The list is growing rapidly. Furries? No worries! They are not having sex right then, so consider it a dress up costume. Sure, they will have such a great sex session later with all that pent up arousal from being treated by non-consenting adults and children as their fantasy. But... no.... nothing to see here. Just because a person is being used in the fantasy without their consent, it is just a bit of fun. innit?

What aspect of consent are people not understanding?

I've just chanced upon this thread and only read the first few posts...

Can honestly say I've not seen the program or even the book or am neither here nor there on the subject.

My mind works in odd ways, having an afternoon muse as I sometimes do and wondered how many parents would let their kids trot into school on world book day dressed like that.

Are scrunch bum leggings typically worn whilst having sex?

No but they quite clearly come under the "fetishise my arse crack and arsehole" umbrella.

This is not OK to push around kids.
It is equally not OK to associate fetish, kink, mastectomy scars and men dressed as monkeys running around with dildos hanging off them with the LGB.

We did not spend years fighting to be unremarkable and as normal as anybody else for this rainbow splashed grooming shite to land on our doorstep courtesy of the rest of the alphabet.

It's making people hate us more than they did before, and in fairness, I can completely see why.

I’m glad I’ve never seen anyone wearing a pair!

And where the fuck do lowered boundaries start?

With adults normalising sexual behaviour as being acceptable in public and / or in front of children.

With books depicting sexualised behaviour or costumes associated with sexual fetish being read to toddlers anywhere.

With children being exposed to those sexual fetishes and the accoutrement of those sexual fetishes by adults they trust.

With adults dismissing sexual boundaries as being prudish, or non progressive or somehow problematic.

The twists and convolutions have been very clear on this thread. The dismissiveness and the fear of being seen as 'non-inclusive' if actions of a group is rejected as being inappropriate. This fear is fed by a lack of critical thinking.

If you have such an absolutist view that you have to accept ALL aspects of a sub-group's behaviour to accept the umbrella group, then you have lost your ability to critically analyse information and think deeply about it.

Haven't RTFT.

Has the treasure "MAP" been discussed yet?

Oh yeah. What's wrong with maps? If you know what it stands for, you're probably a paedo because you wouldn't know that otherwise so it's fine.

Are you being sarcastic?

I wish I was. Unfortunately, that's what they reckon.

Ah, I see.

Well, I learned what MAP stands for quite recently, after Mermaids was found to have one on its board of trustees.

I used to wonder how adults were so amenable to, and trusting of, grooming by the perverts who wanted access to their children. No more, frankly. It's completely obvious.

Sensible people are able to see what's going on. Most people, in my experience, are perfectly accepting of LGB sexualities.

I do really feel for people who fought for years for acceptance and tolerance and the rights to just live their lives and love who they want to love, who now find themselves overtaken by a tsunami of cheap, nasty, grotty kinky schtick, their Pride parades turned into a sex theme park, their slogans and words stolen, their work trashed and their organisations 'queered'. I really feel for people like Fred Sergeant, who founded Stonewall and achieved so much, only to see the organisation eat its own, and brand lesbians 'sexual racists'.

Most of all I feel for young gay. lesbian and bisexual people, who are being sold the idea that they are obliged to accept and support every paraphilia and fetish and sexual disorder as part of their 'community', young lesbians who are told they are 'transphobic' for not wanting to sleep with males, and young gender non-conforming people who are told that exogenous hormones and surgery are things to be celebrated, as if altering their bodies and risking their health is somehow going to address unhappiness and mental health struggles.

What an utter shitshow.

@ArthurbellaScott I completely agree with you.

I used to wonder how adults were so amenable to, and trusting of, grooming by the perverts who wanted access to their children. No more, frankly. It's completely obvious.

Exactly. If anyone wonders how Germany got to a place where they placed foster children with pedophiles, sanctioned by the state, it should be increasingly clear how that was supported by sections of society.

I posted links to this atrocity upthread.

Also, great post @ArthurbellaScott

The fetish images are gross.
Learning that some children have 2 mums or 2 dads - fine. But children don’t need to see people wearing stuff that they have sex in, in a storybook meant for their age group.

Let's hope your child/children grow up to be far more accepting than you are.

Accepting of what? BDSM as a topic for toddlers?

Perhaps you should read the thread

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Read the thread. Jeez. The arrogance of some posters.