7 dogs in Starbucks today is too much

[Elfandwellbeing]

I turned around and walked out again, don’t get me started on dogs sniffing cups and plates of food whilst sat next to the owners.
What is the solution ?
Can’t dogs be left anymore?
AIBU to think dog separation cannot be so painful that dogs have to go everywhere!

there was a long article i was reading about dogs in cafes yesterday

there were dogs in the cafe where i went to yesterday,
i dont mind them at all.
do the dogs need this though?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/nov/25/in-the-dog-house-why-are-so-many-of-britains-dogs-behaving-badly

Don't forget to include some nhs bashing for a full house

And where you live now people take them to coffee houses and pubs.

Isnt it because dogs now are so expensive and stealable that owners won't leave them outside a shop? Whereas about 5 years ago they would have.

not 5 years ago but 20+ years ago the dog would have been left outside a shop
but left at home if the owner wanted to go out for coffee
coffee shops are a more modern phenomenon.

And next door's neighbours cat having a shit in your garden ...

The dog thread police have arrived 🤣

Speaking of trolls, it’s pretty weird the amount of children haters on mumsnet?
Extremely odd.

"I Love seeing dogs out and about, enjoying themselves."

Part of the problem is they are often not enjoying themselves. I see so many stressed dogs in places they don't want to be, yapping at what's going on around them. And untrained dogs straining at the lead or getting over excited. And owners oblivious, incompetent, or thinking its cute. These dogs are a nuisance to the rest of us. I definitely avoid a place where there are dogs and both my kids have come dislike them because we've had several experiences of badly behaved dogs and unplesant owners who just don't care.Children find rude aggressive adults very unsettling.

Yeah, it's weird. I wonder if there are say, bike forums around where posters just hang around going, "Bastarding bikes everywhere, can't bloody move for them, and cyclists...worst people in the world, yeah, much prefer this electric scooter. Still though, haven't got anything better to do than hang out with you guys on Bikenet"?

We're seeing an invasion of dogs in places where you want peace and quiet too eg nail salons and hairdressers. I'm paying substantial chunks of money for a service and then you hear it - that unexpected bark. Uurrrghhh...as regards service dogs then no one would object to a proper service dog.

Good heavens. You must be fun to be around. How can someone sitting with headphones on offend you No impact on your life at all.

I find that with children though. Nothing annoys me more than paying £££ for a haircut only to have kids running around salons during the holidays. It’s not the chilled ambience I’m paying for.

My dog is fine at home thanks. She actually never barks.
If I've been at the park exercising her and want to pop into a nearby cafe, then they will only get my trade if she can pop in with me.
I'd never let her sit on a chair/sofa in a cafe!
She wouldn't try to steal anyone's food. Or be anywhere near the food.
So, I guess it's up to the owners if they want my custom or not. Not you op 🤷🏻‍♀️

What a silly & typically unsympathetic comment. Children tend not to lie on the floor.

Um they often do and they run around untethered by leads.

I didn't realise dogs were allowed in Starbucks!

I love dogs and have two but I can't help thinking that it's a bit rank to have dogs inside at a food establishment. And also what about the people who are allergic to dogs.

It might vary by area but I think a lot of people need to give their rose-tinted specs a wipe. Dogs in pubs has always been a thing. I remember being a teenager and having to visit a certain pub every night out to see the white GSD that lived there. We used to holiday in popular dog walking spots and the pubs all dogs in. There'd be dogs running around the campsites too.

There used to be more dogs in shops too because there were more locally owned shops and the owners generally lived in the flats above them. The whole family, including the dog, would wander up and down the stairs to talk to their parent behind the till.

People would kick their dogs out on a morning and let them back in at dinnertime. Quite often one or two would break into a local primary school and cause mayhem. This idea that dogs need to be under perfect control 100% of the time and never show an ounce of personality or self-awareness is a relatively modern concept.

I'm not suggesting we go back to lone dogs wandering the streets but some of the posts on threads like these make it seem like pet dogs are a recent phenomenon. Humans have kept dogs as companions since the dawn of humanity (admittedly they were wolves back then).

It says without headphones, not with.

@SharonEllis they're more of a trip hazard, sorry and all that!

But there are far, far more of them and they are anthropomorphised, and people are sentimental about them to an unprecedented degree.

Yes, it’s revolting and should be banned. It’s very backward. I won’t spend my money anywhere that admits dogs.

May I ask what bastion of enlightenment is was where dogs are kept outside? As opposed to the backward practice of taking them to the coffee house in the UK.

As for your money, you're perfectly right to spend it where you want.

Why are the frothing rabid dog haters blaming the dogs and owners and not the owner of the establishment that ALLOWS THE DOGS INSIDE! 😂

You lot need to find something else to do. It's so fucking boring. There's a new anti dog thread almost daily and it's always the same old waffle.

I will now take even more joy than I already do, taking my very well behaved dogs in dog friendly places and hoping that one of the MN anti dog frothers is sitting silently stewing about it but of course not saying anything because it's allowed! If they said anything to the owner they'd get short sharp shrift so of course, they don't.

^ This.