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Terrified of HIV, please help

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Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 10:59

I had unprotected sex with someone I was dating in January 2-3 times, however he didn't ejaculate inside me. I have since lost some weight and noticed that I am getting more frequent episodes of genital herpes and it just struck me that it could be due to HIV. I have a test booked for this afternoon, but I feel sick, I'm shaking, constantly feel like I'm going to be sick, can't concentrate on work. I'm 45 and a single mum. Somebody please help.

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Epidote · 24/11/2023 16:45

Glad to hear you are clear of the virus.

viques · 24/11/2023 17:00

I think it is a bit ironic that you have a condition which can be spread by sexual contact but didn’t insist on using condoms to protect him, but are now ina bit of a flap in case he has a transmittable condition too. I know you said he didn’t want to use a condom, but quite honestly, you should have insisted , both to protect your self, and to protect him. I hope your test comes back clear, and I also hope you take more care of yourself in future encounters of the sexual kind.

Consideringachange2023 · 24/11/2023 17:31

@viques she had disclosed her herpes status, maybe you missed that bit.

She didn’t lie or omit anything or have sex without informing him.

So yes whilst she should have used a condom because it’s just the best option outside of a monogamous relationship, suggesting she absolutely has to use a condom because she has herpes, when she had fully disclosed her position to the other fully consenting adult, is just an underhand way for you to have a dig

viques · 24/11/2023 17:34

Consideringachange2023 · 24/11/2023 17:31

@viques she had disclosed her herpes status, maybe you missed that bit.

She didn’t lie or omit anything or have sex without informing him.

So yes whilst she should have used a condom because it’s just the best option outside of a monogamous relationship, suggesting she absolutely has to use a condom because she has herpes, when she had fully disclosed her position to the other fully consenting adult, is just an underhand way for you to have a dig

Yes I saw that, and that he didn’t want to use a condom. But I think it is about responsibility. If someone got in your car and said they didn’t want to wear a seatbelt it is your responsibility ( legally as well) to say they have to, I am not having a dig btw , I am raising eyebrows at the irony.

TheRealLilyMunster · 24/11/2023 17:41

I used to be a dental nurse, and we were always taught that if you got a needlestick injury with an HIV infected needle, there was a 1 in 300 chance you would contract HIV.

It's not a very robust virus, and it's not that easy to catch. Try not to worry too much, and get the test. If you don't want to go to the GP, go to the SH24 website who send STD test kits to you through the post, including finger prick blood test kits for HIV.

If against the odds you were to contract HIV, it is extremely likely that it would not shorten your life as there are very good drugs available to control it now.

No more unprotected sex though. Think about yourself and your kid.

https://sh24.org.uk/sti-test-kits

STI Testing Information | SH:24

With our STI test kits, you’ll take some samples from parts of your body at home. Free, discreet and get results by text message.

https://sh24.org.uk/sti-test-kits

Pudmyboy · 24/11/2023 17:50

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 11:43

Ejaculation makes no difference. But if you have herpes, why have unprotected sex? Did you tell the person?

Actually it does, it's part of the risk assessment for PEPSE.
And please, you and others, please stop stigmatising herpes, it's not a dangerous or life threatening condition unless you are immunocompromised in which case it joins the long list of things that are dangerous in that case.
See herpes virus association UK
https://herpes.org.uk/ for good advice on this

https://www.facebook.com/Sphere-233891323398947/

The Herpes Viruses Association helps to get your head around genital herpes. "The information was clear and reliable - read it"

https://herpes.org.uk

Greenshake · 24/11/2023 17:53

@Pudmyboy well said!

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 17:53

Apologies

Happy to be corrected

VanityDiesHard · 24/11/2023 18:06

ChilliNoodleGoodness · 24/11/2023 12:06

He is probably going through the same stress having probably caught your herpes.

OP disclosed, and he still didn't want to use a condom, so that's on him.

Screwballs · 24/11/2023 18:07

Pudmyboy · 24/11/2023 17:50

Actually it does, it's part of the risk assessment for PEPSE.
And please, you and others, please stop stigmatising herpes, it's not a dangerous or life threatening condition unless you are immunocompromised in which case it joins the long list of things that are dangerous in that case.
See herpes virus association UK
https://herpes.org.uk/ for good advice on this

Oh, well that's OK then, as long as it's not life threatening (to the majority of people of course, sod the others), you go ahead and share the love.

How utterly irresponsible. No one should be knowingly spreading STDs. If you are having casual sex, bloody well wrap it up.

ToughTitty · 24/11/2023 18:10

Great news you're negative :)

thebestinterest · 24/11/2023 18:12

Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 11:56

Thank you the kind reassurances. I do have health anxiety which I need to address. Incredibly stupid not to have used a condom, but it was a combination of me having disclosed about the Herpes, taking suppression treatment at the time and him not wanting to use a condom.

💔 oh, Dear! Holding you in light, OP.

I’m a little shocked that he chose to still have sex with you, even after you disclosed the herpes? And to suggest no condom? That’s bizarre, unless he is also sick?

Please know that you can live with that (Hiv) desease… it’s not a death sentence.

olivialennox · 24/11/2023 18:21

Well most people with genital herpes in the UK are doing precisely nothing to prevent spreading it… because they’re not aware they have it.

Since OP is in the small minority of herpes carriers who are aware of their condition, she will be aware of when she is showing symptoms and has also said she was taking medication. The chances of her passing it on to this man are very tiny, even with no protection being used.

Most genital herpes is spread from those who are not aware they are carrying the virus, symptoms aren’t noticeable in most people and a ‘full STD’ screening from the NHS does not test for this. To be honest not many adults can really confidently say they absolutely don’t carry the virus, it’s extremely common and extremely undetected.

jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:22

It looks like somewhere he manipulated you,by not using condom.

He is at risk too if you had herpes and vice versa.

Condoms are not sold without reason.

Go off sex for 6 months and test three times or more with your GP.

SquirrelMadness · 24/11/2023 18:31

So many people have said on this thread now that herpes is often asymptotic, lots of people carry it without knowing. Condoms don't prevent transmission of herpes and herpes isn't included on the standard panel of STD tests. So a lot of people are putting themselves at risk of catching herpes when they have sex, even when they do wear a condom. Some of the people who are posting judgemental comments on this thread might have herpes without realising.

It's like people are just determined to post judgemental, uninformed comments for the sake of it.

olivialennox · 24/11/2023 18:48

I’m a little shocked that he chose to still have sex with you, even after you disclosed the herpes? And to suggest no condom? That’s bizarre, unless he is also sick?

Not bizarre at all, I have a close friend who was diagnosed with genital herpes in her late teens and she’s had no problems at all with dating and relationships over the years, as well as getting married and having kids. It has never been an issue.

I have oral herpes (cold sores), I’m very unlucky in that I can get frequent outbreaks and have needed to manage it with medication in certain periods of my life.I have always been open with partners about this and the importance of not kissing (or other contact) when I have a sore or can feel tingling/itching coming on. There is still a tiny risk of passing it on but nobody has rejected me because of it.

jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:50

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jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:51

I am not judging anyone here.

Greenshake · 24/11/2023 18:56

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Well, if you are open about it with your partner and take precautions when necessary, there’s no issue.

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Sexual life not really affected.. I’m married and it’s just a case of avoiding kissing or contact if I have a cold sore (or the pre warning signs like tingling and itching on the lip)

Also there’s every chance my DH has the virus but just doesn’t have/can’t remember having symptoms ever, I think I read 75% of British adults have caught cold sores but most immune systems keep it in check. But obviously I prefer to stay safe just in case.

The issue I have is more image and self-esteem if I get a cold sore I’m very self-conscious as they’re not sightly. It knocks my confidence.

princefamilypaper · 24/11/2023 19:02

@OneTC my comment about the results taking months wasn't 'complete tosh'. When I was a dental nurse and we got a needle stick injury it would in fact take months to get our HIV results back. I didn't realise it was different now... was just speaking from my own experience.

explainthistomeplease · 24/11/2023 20:27

It's quite possible I have the virus lying dormant. Been married to DH for 30 years and he gets cold sores. Not often. Probably fewer than 10 times in those past 3 decades. But it's very possible.
So to those who smugly assume they're fine and that those who have heroes are pariahs, well, you're silly and ill educated. And might even have herpes abd be spreading it without realising.
If you know you have herpes and know it you're a much safer bet!

HIVpos · 25/11/2023 01:35

Ohthatsfabulousdarling · 24/11/2023 14:38

Terrified12. I catastrophise too. So what were going to do, is tackle this slightly differently.
What's the worst thing you can think of right now? Positive HIV test?
OK, let's think if it were positive.
You're imagining life changing, early death, people thinking of you like some kind of leper I imagine.
Except none of those things are true. Maybe in the 90s, maybe in the early 00s.
Treatments for HIV have advanced so much within the past even 20 years, treatment means people with HIV aren't having any shorter life spans than a negative person. Many who are dealing with HIV actually say, I'd prefer HIV than diabetes. Taking the required medication means you're sorted.

There's no need to worry about infecting people, because medication now means that most HIV patients become undetectable. Undetectable = untransmittable has been a massive campaign over the past few years to end a lot of stigma.

Everything you fear about HIV is literally in the past.

I used to worry about HIV massively, but then I was educated on how far treatments have come, even people who had AIDS are recovering and living good, healthy, happy lives, with new partners.

Whatever that result says, your life isn't going to change too much.

As someone living with HIV, take one pill a day and have an undetectable viral load which means I cannot pass it on to any partners, I can confirm what has been said here. I mean, it’s not nice to get an HIV diagnosis and can be a shock and take time to come to terms with, but it’s not a death sentence and I continued to live my life as I did before

Pudmyboy · 25/11/2023 08:45

Screwballs · 24/11/2023 18:07

Oh, well that's OK then, as long as it's not life threatening (to the majority of people of course, sod the others), you go ahead and share the love.

How utterly irresponsible. No one should be knowingly spreading STDs. If you are having casual sex, bloody well wrap it up.

If you had a cold sore once on your mouth would you never kiss anyone again or always tell them you had a cold sore once before kissing them? It's the same virus!
Do you think people who have oral cold sores (ie herpes) should tell everyone they kiss or use a dental dam to kiss??

Pudmyboy · 25/11/2023 08:52

jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:22

It looks like somewhere he manipulated you,by not using condom.

He is at risk too if you had herpes and vice versa.

Condoms are not sold without reason.

Go off sex for 6 months and test three times or more with your GP.

Bit confused by this post, have: need a blister that is no older 24-48 hours to do the test, yes you can pay privately for a blood test but why? Cannot emphasis enough: outbreaks last up to 5days and then resolve and it is not dangerous
With HIV, a negative blood test at 45 days is a100% reliable result