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Terrified of HIV, please help

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Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 10:59

I had unprotected sex with someone I was dating in January 2-3 times, however he didn't ejaculate inside me. I have since lost some weight and noticed that I am getting more frequent episodes of genital herpes and it just struck me that it could be due to HIV. I have a test booked for this afternoon, but I feel sick, I'm shaking, constantly feel like I'm going to be sick, can't concentrate on work. I'm 45 and a single mum. Somebody please help.

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Thedm · 24/11/2023 13:41

porridgeisbae · 24/11/2023 13:24

It's unlikely you have HIV @Terrified12 unless you had violent bum sex. You only shagged him a few times. Good idea to get a test but try not to worry. xx

What? This is one of the most uneducated and idiotic comments I’ve read on this forum.

porridgeisbae · 24/11/2023 13:42

@Thedm It's definitely more transmissable that way as there's more risk of blood contact.

ukgot2pot · 24/11/2023 13:44

OP - I once went to get a test done years ago after sleeping with a couple of people (unprotected). The doctor turned around and said to me ' You have more chance of winning the lottery than having HIV'. After doing a ton of research, I realised he was right. The odds of contracting HIV are incredibly low especially with the information you have provided.

Firstly, the person in question would first need to have the disease to begin with, and even if they did, they most likely would already be on antiviral meds giving them an undetectable load meaning your chances are practically zero. Secondly, they did not ejaculate which lowers your risk even further (considerably, I would argue). Thirdly, HIV is NOT an easy thing to catch. It's not like Chlamydia which is easily passed on. And finally, even if, and that's a massive IF you do have it, it's just a virus. Honestly, it's not a death sentence anymore. I think even Dr Christian said he would rather have HIV than diabetes due to the advances in medicine.

scorpiogirly · 24/11/2023 13:45

It is indeed more likely to be passed via anal sex as this activity can cause a lot of tearing to the tissue.

porridgeisbae · 24/11/2023 13:46

'Anal sex is riskier than vaginal sex for HIV transmission' https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/how-is-hiv-transmitted/

Either way. OP would be unlucky to catch it in a few sessions. Which isn't to say people should have unprotected sex with new partners of course.

@Terrified12 Please let us know when you get the all clear. x

How Is HIV Transmitted?

Myths persist about HIV. Get the facts about how the virus is spread from person to person.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/how-is-hiv-transmitted

Whataretheodds · 24/11/2023 13:49

Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 12:08

(I did clearly express condoms were my preference, on two occasions. Stupidest thing I've done was not be forceful about it.)

Please expect better for yourself. Do not have unprotected casual sex. The fact he was willing to do this is a red flag.

Does he know you well enough to trust your herpes was being suppressed by medication? To know if you had any other STIs? Do you know him well enough to know his STI profile or risks?

WillowCraft · 24/11/2023 13:53

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 11:43

Ejaculation makes no difference. But if you have herpes, why have unprotected sex? Did you tell the person?

Of course ejaculation makes a difference - it's spread via semen.
Also using a condom does not affect the risk of passing on herpes. You should avoid sex during an outbreak that is all. Same as you shouldn't kiss someone if you have a cold sore.

nokobonoko · 24/11/2023 13:53

Incredibly unlikely to be HIV and with just normal vaginal sex and no ejaculation inside, so so incredibly unlikely.
Worst case scenario, you have it, the treatments are so effective these days that you can live a normal life span and have a normal life! It is not the death sentence it once was.

scottishcat · 24/11/2023 13:55

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Loverofoxbowlakes · 24/11/2023 13:57

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 11:43

Ejaculation makes no difference. But if you have herpes, why have unprotected sex? Did you tell the person?

This. You're as big a risk as he was - ALWAYS use condoms!

We teach this to 12 year olds, how come middle aged women are still not getting the message? FML.

scottishcat · 24/11/2023 13:59

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WillowCraft · 24/11/2023 14:00

Thedm · 24/11/2023 13:41

What? This is one of the most uneducated and idiotic comments I’ve read on this forum.

Hiv spreads much more easily via anal sex. Hence why it's a disease of gay men. It's uncommon in straight people unless they are in a promiscuous culture.

WillowCraft · 24/11/2023 14:04

Bigroundpear · 24/11/2023 12:59

lots of nonsense on this thread.

  1. genital herpes can be passed even when a condom is used - it affects skin around the genitals and this isn’t covered by a condom.
  2. having said that, 80% of us have been exposed to genital herpes and majority of us don’t get symptoms. I feel for you OP with herpes, there is a stigma around it, but it’s so totally normal, lots of people have it.
  3. the suppression therapy OP was taking at the time makes it far less likely she could have passed the herpes virus on
  4. HIV tests can be immediate if you go to a GUM clinic
  5. it is highly unlikely as a heterosexual woman to have caught HIV through PIV sex
  6. if you have caught HIV and managed it well you would not be able to pass it on

to OP or anyone on this thread interest in HIV, I highly suggest you read the Partner study. This dispelled all my own worries about HIV. I personally have had sex with someone HIV positive. I felt totally safe using protection and knowing that person was undetectable therefore unable to give me the virus. I would rather date someone HIV positive than someone who was unkind towards others for having the misfortune of catching a STI. We sometimes forget we are mammals who can catch viruses from each other and that catching a virus has no bearing on our value as humans.

the only way to end stigma is through education

good luck with the test and hope you start getting things in perspective OP

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Thank god for the voice of reason. Why do people with no knowledge bother to comment their made up rubbish?

WillowCraft · 24/11/2023 14:06

Catza · 24/11/2023 13:10

You already take antivirals for your Herpes, I presume. So in the unlikely event you do have HIV, it will be another set of daily medication which similarly will keep your viral load down so that it doesn't progress. Weight loss can be a sign of many illnesses, some of them far more concerning than HIV. I don't want to add to your health anxiety but HIV tests wouldn't be my first port of call.

Why would you presume that? Most people with herpes don't take medication for it.

Rubes24 · 24/11/2023 14:06

Don't panic OP. In the very unlikely event you did contract HIV then you can live a normal life with medication. However I think this is very unlikely unless you have been told this man was HIV positive. Genital herpes can flare for so many reasons including stress or just having a cold! Stay calm, you've got this.

faffadoodledo · 24/11/2023 14:07

Because, @WillowCraft they just love to judge. @Bigroundpear's post was indeed a voice of reason and fact

GuessingGamer · 24/11/2023 14:10

@Terrified12 I had that exact same worry after one incident of unprotected sex as a 19 year old in the 80s. AIDS stuff was everywhere and I spent years worrying about it. Never told anyone and worried over anything that could possibly be a symptom. I did eventually confide in my GP and he told me not to get tested as it would affect future chances of getting a mortgage. That's what it was like then!
I eventually stopped stressing about it and settled down and hsd a family, although for a reason that I can't recall, in 2001 I rang a std line in a panic, and they reassured me that 15 or so years on it was highly unlikely i would be HIV positive.
After my marriage broke down some years after that I eventually had full STI screening and was clear on everything.

So I'm glad you have booked a test!
Pps are right in that treatment have come so far these days and it's not the death sentence it so sadly once was.

Sparklesocks · 24/11/2023 14:14

I’m sorry people are sticking the knife in when you’re at a low point OP, yes you should’ve used protection but it’s done now but unfortunately you get the MN posters who seem to enjoy feeling superior to others in their replies. All you can do now is learn from your mistake and be more forceful with future partners about condom use.

Best of luck for your test - as others have pointed out it’s not likely to be HIV but it’s a completely different disease these days. Go to your doctor regardless about your symptoms. Hope it all goes well and you get some answers/treatment soon.

ToughTitty · 24/11/2023 14:19

@Skyecat it's nastier on the genitals because it recurs more frequently and studies have been done that show it is more severe (from the studies below)

Recurrence of genital herpes averages 0.33/month with HSV-2 disease, but only 0.02/month for HSV-1 genital disease

The findings suggest that the infection with genital HSV-1 is quite different than genital HSV-2, as it is substantially less severe both in terms of recurrences and shedding

Catza · 24/11/2023 14:21

WillowCraft · 24/11/2023 14:06

Why would you presume that? Most people with herpes don't take medication for it.

From reading one of the OP's update. Why do you presume most people don't? Some statistical data I am not aware of or your personal experience?

Shoemadlady · 24/11/2023 14:22

I can completely understand that you're frightened. However, HIV isn't the life sentence it once was and with the correct drugs it can become non transmittable. Please try not to worry, there is so much support out there now x

Tandora · 24/11/2023 14:26

Hi OP, this is your anxiety running wild. It’s is highly unlikely you have HIV- no reason to think this at all on the basis of the facts you have shared.

Also, in the exceptionally unlikely event you did happen to test positive, it’s worth remembering that HIV is not the terrifying disease it once was.

Treatments are excellent and, with treatment, people with HIV live full and perfectly healthy lives with undetectable amounts of virus in their blood.

Kissmystarfish · 24/11/2023 14:28

Alleycat1 · 24/11/2023 11:45

Surely condoms should always be used as you have genital herpes? According to a GP friend the virus can be active even when lesions are not present. Using condoms protects both you and your partner.
Good luck for this afternoon.

Condoms don’t help not catch genital herpes as it’s skin to skin contact.

Kissmystarfish · 24/11/2023 14:30

People are spouting all sorts of misinformation on this thread OP about genital herpes.

Kissmystarfish · 24/11/2023 14:31

ChilliNoodleGoodness · 24/11/2023 12:06

He is probably going through the same stress having probably caught your herpes.

Herpes can take 10 years to show up.

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