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Highly sensitive empath burn out

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Keepingscore · 23/11/2023 18:57

So, this is me and looking for opinions on how to manage this trait, especially at work. I work in the charity sector so whilst being empathic and a degree of sensitivity is good when supporting our users and their families it isn't so good working in a toxic team culture, my team members do not share my sensitivity or empathic approach.

It affects me to the point where I am not able to work in a room where there is a lot of negativity, gossip and narcissim. I find it draining. I appreciate we can't all work in positive environments but how do I get over this? it is getting me down and I am regularly burnt out.

This has always been an issue for me so indeed the less people I work with in a team or office the better i am. However this is not always possible, at least not in my field of work. I have pretty good boundaries and don't take on more work than is necessary, I look after my needs and generally say No when I don't want to do something.

Is there anybody who is also an empath/highly sensitive who can share some nuggets of wisdom?

OP posts:
cardibach · 23/11/2023 20:46

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 19:08

I find most who say that they are empaths, are highly self interested and don't actually see how they and their self interest/importance negatively affect others!

I used to have a friend who said she was soooo sensitive that everything was harder for her. Seemed to be because she would openly cry whereas I felt things just as deeply but kept my feelings private. She also definitely felt her ‘sensitivity’ made her a better person. Nope. Just someone who made everything all about her.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:47

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:42

🤣 Hilarious that you now think the term empath is an insult.

Go and read the whole thread rather than trying to pick a fight with me.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, merely wondering if you're qualified to make the assertion you made.
Also my reference to insult was the use of your little emojis in your 'question'.

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:47

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:44

It's unkind, and a big jump, to go from not believing someone is an empath to suggesting they are a narcissist. They could be neither, or have something else painful going on.

As I’ve said (and is being proven more and more on this thread), it’s likely someone who believes themselves to be an empath is simply just autistic. And as definitely been proven by one or two here, they cannot seem to understand the emotional response factor of their autism. It is not a separate entity of being ‘an empath’, it’s still just autistic traits of emotional processing difficulties.

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:48

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:43

What? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

im sure the people who come to me for help don’t think I make it all about me… quite the opposite. I get burn out from it.

Maybe you need more crystals… 🤔

PosterBoy · 23/11/2023 20:49

It's almost a type of self harming behaviour to work in the field you are in if you are so affected by others emotions. I certainly wouldn't see it as a plus - for you or the people you support. See also high levels of burnout in other caring professions that attract people who can't boundary their emotions but work in a highly stressful environment.

Try accountancy, book keeping, librarianship, science, anything with less emotional inputs.

ghostyslovesheets · 23/11/2023 20:50

I mean I don't think 'empaths' are a thing (unless, as some one said, they are on Star Trek) but I am empathetic - and honestly OP you need to toughen up that skin asap.

I care very much about the people I work with and support, it's a passion that keeps me in my job, but I work in a multi agency way and often come across people who care a lot less or who just disagree with me! You have to learn to work with others including those who have different views.

You also need (in many cases within charity/social work) to drop the hero complex - you just can't save/help everyone the most you can probably do is make a tiny difference to a shit life - you make that difference as impactful as possible but never imagine you can solve everything or save everyone, not matter how empathetic you are - that's where the burn out lies.

As an 'empath' I am surprised you aren't more tuned into your co workers feelings and experiences - because they sound cynical and burnt out as well - yet to you they are all 'bad people' and you are 'the good' one - that's not healthy.

mugofstew · 23/11/2023 20:50

doesnt change that im an empath

What do you believe that being an Empath means?

bonzaitree · 23/11/2023 20:52

Listen to positive / upbeat / relaxing tunes all day (if possible). Get out and have a walk in your dinner hour.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:53

Lex345 · 23/11/2023 20:45

Interesting-but I think everyone has coping strategies to cope with situations and events that they find distressing-from a strict definition stand point, an empath would find it impossible to "switch off" or "tune out" wouldn't they?

Most very sensitive people (incl empaths in that if you believe they exist) have to force themselves to learn how be less sensitive/turn off, because they've seen what happens when they don't. Different things work for different people, and of course we all develop coping strategies to some extent.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 23/11/2023 20:54

I've always been of the belief that empaths are just neurodivergent.

Either through past trauma or through autism and being hyper empathetic.

In which case I would treat the burnout the same way I would treat autistic burnout, and take the same steps to preventing it in future. If you haven't considered it before I would consider seeking a diagnosis even if the wait lists are long in your area, just so you can get your medical letter to say you are on the wait list as evidence for work.

First, time off. Second, loop ear plugs. Third, reasonable adjustment request where you ask for additional breaks when you're overwhelmed, perhaps work in a smaller team, different part of the office, or more work from home time, or even shorter hours.

You need to distance yourself away from the cause of the negativity.

It may be that the line of work you are in inhibits you from distancing yourself from it so I would consider a new line of work in that instance, and look at retraining options.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:54

LittleCrackers · 23/11/2023 20:39

Agree with this.

There also tends to be a direct correlation with anti-vax types IMO.

Just had my flu jab, my 5th Covid jab and all my babies are fully vaxxed

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 20:55

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:31

Yea, don’t listen to critical thinking, find an echo chamber for your belief system rather than get some real help. Oh and spend £20 on some pretty stones that do absolutely fuck all.

I once accidentally touched someone's crystals they'd left in shared kitchen at halls, of course they had a chilled, relaxed reaction...

MillarMountVandal · 23/11/2023 20:55

I've only ever encountered one person who labelled themself an 'empath' and, in common with the experiences of PP's, she was a pompous pain in the arse. She was incredibly self piteous (thus habitually unhappy) and judgemental (the antithesis of empathy!).

Most of us have the odd scuzzy aspect to our character, life is easier when you accept that without judgement.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:56

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:48

Maybe you need more crystals… 🤔

I’m good thanks 💅🏻

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:56

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:47

As I’ve said (and is being proven more and more on this thread), it’s likely someone who believes themselves to be an empath is simply just autistic. And as definitely been proven by one or two here, they cannot seem to understand the emotional response factor of their autism. It is not a separate entity of being ‘an empath’, it’s still just autistic traits of emotional processing difficulties.

Suggesting a person may be autistic, if done in a sensitive way, is a lot more helpful and kind than suggesting they are a narcissist. I don't think all hsp/empaths are necessarily autistic, but there is definitely overlap in the issues that can arise.

HappyMavis · 23/11/2023 20:56

Fascinating. Out of interest OP do you have an overbearing mother?

Stomacharmeleon · 23/11/2023 20:57

How do you get diagnosed with being an 'empath' or is it a realisation? Not being sarkey genuinely interested.

PhantomOps · 23/11/2023 20:57

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This is a previously banned troll so we've removed their posts.

nonsenseaddict · 23/11/2023 20:57

Keepingscore · 23/11/2023 20:03

Thank you @Nelly91 .There have been some very nasty and unhelpful comments on this thread which I have chosen to ignore. My initial post having completely been misinterpreted or not worded correctly. Either way it demonstrates how awful people can be.

Every is awful OP, yourself included. Welcome to humanity!

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:58

mugofstew · 23/11/2023 20:50

doesnt change that im an empath

What do you believe that being an Empath means?

Here’s some reading for you

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-an-empath#crowds

im not wasting my time on someone who doesn’t think it exists 💁🏻‍♂️

What Is an Empath and How Do You Know If You Are One?

Empath comes from empathy, or the ability to understand the feelings of others. Here are 15 common traits that help clarify what it means to be an empath.

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-an-empath#crowds

PartyPartyYeah · 23/11/2023 20:58

Fuck me the nasty ones are out in full force tonight!
I avoid drama because it brings me down and drains me, i call these people energy vampires.

PhantomOps · 23/11/2023 20:58

This reply has been deleted

This is a previously banned troll so we've removed their posts.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:59

Stomacharmeleon · 23/11/2023 20:57

How do you get diagnosed with being an 'empath' or is it a realisation? Not being sarkey genuinely interested.

You don’t get diagnosed with it, it’s a realisation. People are drawn to you, you help them, you feel feelings around people, crowded spaces are hard, it’s hard to explain

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:59

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 20:55

I once accidentally touched someone's crystals they'd left in shared kitchen at halls, of course they had a chilled, relaxed reaction...

Obviously, you essentially assaulted their chakra and therefore ruined any chance of them being a tree for the day. Or some shit like that.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 21:00

PartyPartyYeah · 23/11/2023 20:58

Fuck me the nasty ones are out in full force tonight!
I avoid drama because it brings me down and drains me, i call these people energy vampires.

Right!

this is one of those if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say it posts

but of course it’s Mumsnet, where the worst (and sometimes the best) of people are commenting.

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