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Husband always late, can't take much more

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Dazedandfrazzled · 21/11/2023 22:10

My husband is ALWAYS late. He's always been like this, but I'm sure it's getting worse, we now have a 2yo and quite frankly I am sick of it. I've talked to him about it over and over, he says he will change, but seems incapable. It's causing a huge strain on our relationship, not one week has gone by that he has managed to be 'on time'. Its actually starting to make me hate him and want to leave because every morning starts off with me feeling this huge stress and disappointment over it, which then impacts my whole mood and day. I'm in a negative rut and can't seem to get out of it. There are other things going on as well so far from a perfect relationship, but this is the core issue which then impacts everything else. I basically spend hours waiting for him (which then by default means I will be doing housework and looking after LO while he faffs around adding to the frustration).

I'm not even sure what I am asking, it seems like a stupid reason to break up a family but I truly feel that I can't take much more. WWYD?

OP posts:
enchantedsquirrelwood · 24/11/2023 08:46

It’s also likely the case that many ND men manage to get away with this stuff because there’s a woman there picking up all the slack so that it doesn’t matter than their partner has deprioritised home and family. But that isn’t an option for lots and lots on ND women. In fact, they end up much more at risk of burnout because absolutely no one is OK with them dropping the family balls

Absolutely this. It's no good people on here shouting "ableist" - if you have a disability and children you have to work around the disability. And that doesn't mean getting your partner to do it all while you spend 3 hours doing something others can do in half an hour.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 24/11/2023 08:47

Soontobe60 · 24/11/2023 08:08

So you still pay half into all the household finances? And I also assume you pay all the nursery fees yourself?

Why all of them? A child has two parents, so they each pay half the fees or in proportion with their income.

Dazedandfrazzled · 24/11/2023 10:13

Soontobe60 · 24/11/2023 08:08

So you still pay half into all the household finances? And I also assume you pay all the nursery fees yourself?

What a strange comment. Why would I pay all the nursery fees myself? Income goes into a joint bank account. So at the moment he's the only one contributing into that, previously he's had breaks from work when I've been the only one contributing. Sometimes I've earned more, sometimes he has. Before I took a break I was earning very good money to be in this position to have enough savings to take a few years off.

OP posts:
NotLactoseFree · 24/11/2023 10:39

Dazedandfrazzled · 24/11/2023 10:13

What a strange comment. Why would I pay all the nursery fees myself? Income goes into a joint bank account. So at the moment he's the only one contributing into that, previously he's had breaks from work when I've been the only one contributing. Sometimes I've earned more, sometimes he has. Before I took a break I was earning very good money to be in this position to have enough savings to take a few years off.

Aaah, but OP, don't you know.... if you are at home for more than 20 seconds, putting a child in nursery is bad bad bad and you are a terrible mother. Don't forget, "why bother having children if you're just going to put them in nursery."

See also,
"Aaah, but men don't see mess the same way we do"
"if he's not helping you around the house, you should prepare a list of chores for him that he can tick off as he does them." or "well, did you tell him that you expected him to make dinner and do the washing up before you got home at 9pm?"
Or, my personal favourite: "what do you mean you think your DH should get up in the night sometimes with your baby? He works hard all day and needs his 9 hours of sleep and 3 hours of gaming time . YABU to expect him to work if he's had broken sleep. Ever."

Charl2023 · 24/11/2023 11:17

Oh my goodness, this sounds like you’re talking about my life.

My partner and I have been together for 9 years and also have a 2 year old. For years, I felt disrespected every time he was late and often he didn’t even bother to let me know that he wasn’t going to be on time.

Add a baby to the mix and it feels like you’re totally alone, trying to juggle the house, life admin and childcare.

My partner was diagnosed with ADHD earlier this year. I’m not saying this is the case with your husband but it might be worth thinking about as time blindness is a tell tale sign. Since the diagnosis, he’s found tools to help him with time keeping and I feel more understanding, knowing it isn’t a disrespect.

Hope this helps

insearchofabra · 24/11/2023 11:27

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. Apologies if it has.

But on the days when you have an appointment that you absolutely can't be late for or a flight. Are you able to get yourself and the toddler there yourselves? Just tell him we need to leave at xx time, and then even if he's not ready, simply get in the car/taxi/bus and go. He can then either make his own way later mince he's done faffing, or miss out. Maybe a few times of missing the first day of the holiday/appointment might make him think? Also, has he tried sorting out as much as possible the night before, such as laying out his outfit/packing his bag, so it's just up, dressed, and go?
Hope this helps

OkayScooby · 24/11/2023 11:40

I would literally act as though he wasn't there. You already do this for all the chores and life admin, so you can do it for the fun things too.

Plan everything as though he won't be going and go and do all the things you want. On time. No exceptions.
He can either step up, join in, help and be on time. Or he can choose to leave you to it.
I'm pretty sure which one it'll be.
But at least you'll know.

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 30/11/2023 22:45

slore · 23/11/2023 00:24

I am the person with ADHD. I am totally incapable. The life skills of planning and doing a task in a certain order that somebody mentioned, I literally cannot do. T
Ordinary people don't realize your brain does this for you semi-automatically. It's executive function, or dysfunction if it doesn't work. The small things I can do, I do very slowly, because my brain is having to think through everything "manually", then forgetting at every moment having to re-remember and re-order, and getting distracted at every moment.

Many life skills that I could do very slowly, I have not been taught because it's too frustrating for anybody to teach me, and they don't think it's worth it as I will just be so slow.

Most people with ADHD have delayed sleep phase disorder, where our circadian rhythm is shifted forward and we fall asleep and wake up extremely late. Our brains are more sensitive to blue light and a lot of us end up nocturnal. Your husband is forcing himself to be normal, quite successfully by the sounds of it, but he will still have extreme brain fog in the mornings (and less extreme but still bad brain fog the rest of the time)

Having an abnormal circadian rhythm affects your sense of time. Most people with ADHD are also time blind. We know logically there is time and order, but we only have the sense of the now and the not-now. The more freedom we have (flexi time etc) the worse we get, because we need routine and deadlines to give us mental structure. Similarly, if you give him 1 or 3 hours to get ready in the morning, he will take ALL of that time, no matter how long it is.

We also cannot predict how long things will take.

Yes, it can be selective, because the high-adrenaline context of work, and getting into trouble for missing deadlines, physically makes the brain think clearer. But this is extremely stressful, and he is completely spent from using all his mental energy at work and needs home to replenish.

Also planning at work is different than planning practical, hands on tasks that he actually has to do. If someone sat him down and told him to plan someone's else's housework and daily chores, he'd probably be able to do a decent job of it, because it's easy to do when you're not in the thick of it.

Doing any kind of thinking or planning or any kind of practical task, is much more stressful for him than for other people. It uses so much more brain power when your brain is inefficient. "Faffing" is not a choice, it is what a slow, disorganized brain looks like to observers.

I am not saying don't leave him, because caring for somebody with impaired executive function is hard and nobody is obligated to be an unpaid carer. It also sounds like your husband doesn't fully appreciate that he has a serious problem, and that it's not you simply nagging him/giving him unreasonable demands. This lack of self-awareness will compound the problem.

But it's hard to see him being described as "pathetic" and the vitriol he is receiving. It hurts because this is exactly how I am seen. ADHD is a disability. He can't help the way he is. By holding down a job, keeping a regular sleep routine, avoiding addictions etc, he's already doing better than many people with ADHD - he is doing infinitely better than me. He's already working at his maximum ability, which is much lower than for non-ADHD people. On the scale of things he's an ADHD success story and deserves credit for his efforts. And yes I'm talking as if he is already diagnosed because he so clearly has it.

He's battling his own inefficient mind. Just remember that you can escape this situation, whereas he can never escape his brain fog, his slow cognitive tempo, or his inability.

Edited

What do you use to help you with this? Do you have daily techniques? (Might help the OP). Or do you just live with it? Are you on medication?

slore · 01/12/2023 16:01

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 30/11/2023 22:45

What do you use to help you with this? Do you have daily techniques? (Might help the OP). Or do you just live with it? Are you on medication?

I just live with it, I've not found anything that helps. I have even tried new therapies like neurofeedback. If it was that easy to get rid of, control or cope with, it wouldn't be a serious problem.

I am not on medication as I have epilepsy and the neurologist refuses to cooperate. (ADHD medication can make epilepsy worse).

From second hand experience from my friends with ADHD, medication helps you to concentrate temporarily, but it doesn't make you think any straighter - it doesn't help with executive dysfunction. Statistically, about 70%+ of ADHD sufferers respond to medication. The inattentive subtype (like OP's husband) may do better on atomoxetine (Strattera) rather than methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta etc). Strattera takes a few weeks to work and the effect is longer-term, rather than a short acting boost to concentration like methylphenidate.

The sleep problems can be helped with blue-light blocking glasses, worn for 2-3 hours before bed, and melatonin tablets to bring your body clock forwards. I have not yet successfully implemented this.

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