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Boyfriend hurt me on purpose during sex

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Feelingsad192 · 19/11/2023 20:39

I just need some advice because he won't speak to me, he's upset with me and is acting like I've done something wrong.

Boyfriend and I were having sex (after an argument about me feeling like he doesn't care about my pleasure during sex as he never makes an effort to finish me off)

While having sex he asked me to turn over, I have endometriosis and this position is very painful for me. We do that position occasionally (it's not always painful depending on time of the month) this time I said no as I knew it would hurt he asked again I said no again so he grabbed my leg and put it on his shoulder- a position I have never liked and he knows hurts me and at this time in my cycle it is exceptionally painful so I screamed. I started crying from the pain and he's stormed off mad.
I've asked him to speak to me, he doesn't want to, he's upset with me, I have no idea what I did.
I'm in so much pain, it's really uncomfortable and painful.
I've told him I'm in pain, he doesn't seem to give a shit.

OP posts:
StBrides · 19/11/2023 23:55

He is upset with you because he's projecting and deflecting: he knows what he did was wrong, that he assaulted you with the deliberate intent to hurt.

If he can get you to minimise it then in his head he won't be yet another abusive man and he won't be guilty of a serious crime, which he is.

Do not minimise it to give into his tantrum and tears. Oh, I'm sure he'll turn on the waterworks at some point.

Whether you report it or not is entirely up to you and in spite of some replies you'll get, you do not have a responsibility to do so. The responsibility here is all his. The guilt is all his. None of this is your fault.

If you're safe to remain then you don't need to leave tonight and find a hotel or hotel but you do need to be careful and mindful of the risk to yourself given that he's shown a side of him which is about violent exertion of control without remorse.

If you're not safe to remain in his presence then I do advise you call the police, for your own protection & safety.

Speak to Womens Aid as soon as you can for advice on the safest way to extricate yourself from this relationship.

Iamdobby63 · 19/11/2023 23:56

If you said no or stop and he carried on then it’s rape.

He did it deliberately knowing it would physically hurt you then it’s no different if he was punching and kicking you.

soggytodger · 19/11/2023 23:56

Feelingsad192 · 19/11/2023 23:08

This is a isolated incident and I think I'd be wasting womens aid/police time, there's no other abuse going on and I don't believe I'm in danger, there's other people that need that help more than me.

I agree he's an utter scumbag for what he did though and I will be leaving as soon I can save up enough

Believe me the police are called out for far far less. He needs a nasty scare and to understand that what he has done IS a big deal, despite his claims that it isn't. Take your power OP, and do it also for the other women he will encounter in the future. Women are so used to being treated shittily and to being subservient that if when they are quasi raped, they worry about making a fuss. I also recommend going forward that you take a self defence/martial art class -they are brilliant for self empowerment. You've had a very traumatic experience that will have left you feeling powerless on some level and I think they can really help, they did for me anyway.

Gymnopedie · 19/11/2023 23:57

Feelingsad192 · 19/11/2023 23:39

I don't believe that was rape?
He asked for doggy twice to which I said no and then he put my leg on his shoulder, I screamed and he walked out of the room.
I do agree it was abuse but not rape?

If I've read your OP correctly it never got as far as him putting his penis into you, firstly because you said no (doggy) and then when he tried the leg on shoulder and you screamed he stomped off. So on a technicality no, he didn't rape you. The legal definition of rape is putting the penis into vagina, mouth or anus without consent.

So OK, it wasn't rape. But don't minimise how absolutely horrendous the assault was. I suspect you're already minimising because you think you have to stay with him for now and you couldn't do it if you actually faced up to what he did.

MuckSavage · 19/11/2023 23:57

Feelingsad192 · 19/11/2023 23:39

I don't believe that was rape?
He asked for doggy twice to which I said no and then he put my leg on his shoulder, I screamed and he walked out of the room.
I do agree it was abuse but not rape?

Run. Run now.

Minglingpringle · 19/11/2023 23:57

Feelingsad192 · 19/11/2023 23:08

This is a isolated incident and I think I'd be wasting womens aid/police time, there's no other abuse going on and I don't believe I'm in danger, there's other people that need that help more than me.

I agree he's an utter scumbag for what he did though and I will be leaving as soon I can save up enough

It never crossed my sister’s mind that she’d be a candidate for a refuge until a doctor picked up on a comment she made and recommended it to her. And if you’ve nowhere to go then a refuge is what you need.

It can just be temporary, you’ll soon be freeing a space up for someone else.

But surely you’ve noticed the tendency of abuse victims to minimise their own abuse? It’s a big thing…

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 19/11/2023 23:58

PyongyangKipperbang · 19/11/2023 23:44

And it was rape because he has ADMITTED that he knew you didnt want it but did it anyway to hurt and punish you.

Thats what makes it rape.

which is why you really DON'T need to worry about him hassling you for money after you've left.

And why you have to leave. This behaviour only escalates and things can and do get a lot worse.

soggytodger · 19/11/2023 23:58

*sorry not quasi raped, actually raped

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 19/11/2023 23:59

Pinkbonbon · 19/11/2023 23:51

Assault.

People saying rape would be right if he changed your position despite your protests and continued having sex with you. Because them still having sex with you after you say "no I don't want to have sex in that position" is technically rape.

But just flipping you over to hurt you, would be assault.

FFS he grabbed her leg and put it on his shoulder, which in the original post OP says: so he grabbed my leg and put it on his shoulder- a position I have never liked and he knows hurts me and at this time in my cycle it is exceptionally painful

Then later he admitted to doing it on purpose. She has a standing refusal to that sex position because it hurts her and he forced it on her purposely to hurt, it's rape! I explained more fully upthread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4946441-boyfriend-hurt-me-on-purpose-during-sex?reply=130860303

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 20/11/2023 00:00

"I agree he's an utter scumbag for what he did though and I will be leaving as soon I can save up enough"

sounds like a good plan

Auroradavis · 20/11/2023 00:02

Ew what the hell!!!!! That's awful.
My boyfriend hurts me sometimes (by accident) and he always stops and worried about me straight away!!!
That is so sad OP I'm really sorry. Sending you much love. Some men are truly, truly selfish. X

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 20/11/2023 00:02

He either didn’t care you were in pain or your distress added to his pleasure. Either way this man is abusive. He is now emotionally abusing you too by ignoring you. LTB

nocoolnamesleft · 20/11/2023 00:03

This wasn't even a case of him not caring whether he hurt you as long as he got his rocks off, which would be bad enough, this was him deliberately and calculatedly hurting you. This was him penetrating you in a position he knew you didn't consent to. This was rape.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 20/11/2023 00:04

Gymnopedie · 19/11/2023 23:57

If I've read your OP correctly it never got as far as him putting his penis into you, firstly because you said no (doggy) and then when he tried the leg on shoulder and you screamed he stomped off. So on a technicality no, he didn't rape you. The legal definition of rape is putting the penis into vagina, mouth or anus without consent.

So OK, it wasn't rape. But don't minimise how absolutely horrendous the assault was. I suspect you're already minimising because you think you have to stay with him for now and you couldn't do it if you actually faced up to what he did.

You've read the OP wrongly. While having sex he asked me to turn over

Note the "WHILE having sex". Not "prior to having sex" or "during foreplay".

I also have endo and a knee on a partner's shoulder would hurt if he was fucking me, but not if he hadn't entered me yet.

But, I agree 100% that his behaviour is abusive regardless of legalities.

RantyAnty · 20/11/2023 00:05

You don't have to stick around because you have a lease. Leases can be broken for many things including moving for a job, abuse, etc.

Please call WA when he's gone and have a talk to them at least to get some help.

Loubelle70 · 20/11/2023 00:09

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 20/11/2023 00:04

You've read the OP wrongly. While having sex he asked me to turn over

Note the "WHILE having sex". Not "prior to having sex" or "during foreplay".

I also have endo and a knee on a partner's shoulder would hurt if he was fucking me, but not if he hadn't entered me yet.

But, I agree 100% that his behaviour is abusive regardless of legalities.

Edited

OP Repeatedly said no..whether part way through sex or not, it should have stopped when she said no. It is rape

Panaa · 20/11/2023 00:11

CaroleSinger · 19/11/2023 20:50

No he essentially didn't. On what planet is putting her foot on his shoulder rape? Watering down rape leads to women not being believed.

he asked again I said no again so he grabbed my leg and put it on his shoulder- a position I have never liked and he knows hurts me

I would consider this to be rape, he did not have consent for that position as he knows it hurts her. A man can't just do whatever he likes to a woman because he was already allowed to have sex with her. If he starts doing something that he knows is out of bounds then that's rape or sexual assault.

And I say that as someone who has been raped.

theunbelievabletruth · 20/11/2023 00:20

Wether it's rape or not is unknown as we do not know from your posts if he stopped when he moved your leg and you screamed or if he moved your leg, penetrated you and then stopped when you screamed. First is assault second probably rape but the chances of CPS taking this and charging or you wanting to take this further (from your posts) I would guess are ridiculously small.

I also understand that you don't feel threatened and I will not presume to know better - he is the person you live with and assume you know when you are scared .

However you do need to not share a home. Contract or no contract . Do you have family where you could go ?

CC222 · 20/11/2023 00:24

moofo · 19/11/2023 23:21

OP I think that the minimisation we can see from you of this really violent and horrific incident is perhaps indicative of a relationship where your feelings are repeatedly dismissed. Once you are out you are likely to see other ways he was abusive that you may not be able to see right now.

It's understandable - it's difficult to believe that someone who we once knew and loved isn't just a bit of a dick but is actually a violent abuser, especially when he is telling you that you are being over dramatic and we are all just posts on a forum.

You would not be wasting anyone's time. I can guarantee you that a lot of people posting on here, if you had their stories are people who you would put in the "need help more than me" category and I can guarantee that they are all horrified and shocked reading your post.

This really is abusive. Any professional agency you contacted would agree. Please try and let it sink in that he did not merely hurt you accidentally and neglect to be be careful enough. He knew that it would hurt you and did it anyway. A man doing that because he wanted sexual gratification and didn't care about you would be bad enough but I honestly think it is even worse than that. He did it to punish you for not obeying him in the bedroom. He raped you as punishment for not wanting to do a sex position that causes you pain. And then he admitted it and is now angry with you.

Please try to imagine what you would say if a friend or sister or daughter said this to you.

Every word here, please read and understand. As this person said, if you are so used to being dismissed and emotionally abused, you can become numb and end up defending their behaviour when confronted with it, because you are so used to defending it to yourself in order to justify staying with this person.
I'm speaking from experience of emotional abuse that turned into rape. It wasn't a direct jump from the first instance of emotional abuse to rape. It came in stages, gradually he would disrespect boundaries more and more by pressuring me sexually when I said no (this is also abuse, it's sexual coercion), and eventually he ended up taking advantage of me in the worst way. It took me months, if not almost a year, to finally come to the terms with the fact that he raped me. He raped me and I didn't accept that for almost a year.
You know deep inside your core that what he done was wrong, and that's why you've posted here tonight.
Please please please trust your gut. Something is seriously wrong. This guy is sexually violent. Don't allow him to hurt you even more.

krustykittens · 20/11/2023 00:25

He used his cock to hurt you as a way of putting you in your place because he believes it is not up to you to dictate how sex goes between you. Fuck me. That's as abusive as it gets. I hope you get away from this piece of shit as soon as you can, OP, and wish you a much happier life from here on in.

oakleaffy · 20/11/2023 00:29

@Feelingsad192 Please leave- that is an awfully disrespectful thing for him to have done. Horrible brute.

betterangels · 20/11/2023 00:30

PyongyangKipperbang · 19/11/2023 23:44

And it was rape because he has ADMITTED that he knew you didnt want it but did it anyway to hurt and punish you.

Thats what makes it rape.

Read this again and again, OP. It's so difficult, I understand. But please understand that this is how it is.

oakleaffy · 20/11/2023 00:32

@Feelingsad192 You need a lawyer to advise, but a woman I knew was in an abusive relationship- that enabled her to get out of the contract I think...report to police - You didn't give consent...that was r@pe.

ALongHardWinter · 20/11/2023 00:32

He sounds ghastly.

porridgeisbae · 20/11/2023 00:41

the chances of CPS taking this and charging

The police can be pretty hopeless OP but that doesn't mean you weren't raped (if he was still inside you while doing the leg thing, a position he knew you wouldn't consent to.)

Either way, he deliberately hurt you.

Going to somewhere like SARC https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/other-health-services/rape-and-sexual-assault-referral-centres would mean you have evidence you could use to help you get out of the contract.

But WA would be your best bet to help you get out safely. x

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