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My next door neighbour shouts at his DD

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 20:00

My NDNs have an 18 month old. The dad absolutely bellows at her and smacks her. This has been going on around a year. I also hear him playing with her and singing to her and making her laugh.

I find it really distressing. And I try not to judge but I can't understand what she could be doing that's so bad at such a young age and so frequently. I hear him shouting every day. As soon as it starts I'm on edge, listening and hoping he won't smack her. I don't know what I can do other than wear ear defenders all the time?

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:05

Betty000 · 18/11/2023 20:44

You cannot be serious, how hard is it to report to social services or the police. Are you honestly saying you have been listening to a baby being abused for a year and done NOTHING?

No, I didn't say that atall! You just assumed! I find it so strange that people think I would not have reported it.

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:06

Betty000 · 18/11/2023 20:45

Cross post, so how many times have you reported it?

I've reported it 5 times now.

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Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:08

I don't get why you didn't mention that you've reported it three times already.

What other advice were you expecting to get without including that information?? Links to the best ear defender reviews? Which you apparently already have and use...

sixteenfurryfeet · 18/11/2023 21:08

Have you phoned the police when it is actually happening? They will take it seriously. I had to do it once, years ago and they turned up in 5 minutes.

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:09

existentialpain · 18/11/2023 20:48

To be honest social services do very little. I'm in a very similar situation with hearing an older child constantly being screened at and social services are involved as the child has a social worker and the police have visited many times but nothing ever gets done apart from having a word with the mother which does no good. So I don't think the skepticism towards the op is warranted

Obviously I'm not privy to what children's services are doing with the family.

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Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:09

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:06

I've reported it 5 times now.

You just said a minute ago it was three times...

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:11

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Reported. Not nice to attack me for being autistic.

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:14

MyFavouriteBlankWall · 18/11/2023 21:02

OP has now changed her story - she thinks the baby might have been smacked, but isn't sure. Again, I'm asking - where is the mother?

In my head I think she is being smacked and then when I heard him threaten it the other day it sort of confirmed it. But the truth is I don't actually know if she is being smacked as I can't see.

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:15

MyFavouriteBlankWall · 18/11/2023 21:02

OP has now changed her story - she thinks the baby might have been smacked, but isn't sure. Again, I'm asking - where is the mother?

And I've already answered about the mother.

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Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:15

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:14

In my head I think she is being smacked and then when I heard him threaten it the other day it sort of confirmed it. But the truth is I don't actually know if she is being smacked as I can't see.

You can not be serious

Jejrididndjdiiencndkso · 18/11/2023 21:16

Record it the best you can and email in the recording to the local social services and contact the police with it.

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:18

bumtrumpet · 18/11/2023 21:03

Changed it more than that. She can hear a toddler being smacked for a year, to now when it was threatened once.

I never said I could hear her being smacked. My title was that he shouts at her - i.e that was the most important point.

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Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:19

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:06

I've reported it 5 times now.

Three times or five?

You imagine the baby next door has been assaulted for a year, but you haven't heard it, or heard the dad threaten it, until just now? But you assume it's been going on.

What did you actually report three or five times?

My next door neighbour shouts at his DD
UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:19

junbean · 18/11/2023 21:04

Knock on their door and say you've been hearing it for too long, and you'll report if he doesn't stop. They won't know you already did. Maybe it will make him stop.

I wish I could do this. But just thinking about it makes me feel like I'm going to faint.

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BrutusMcDogface · 18/11/2023 21:21

If social services haven’t helped, then please do report to the police.

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:22

Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:08

I don't get why you didn't mention that you've reported it three times already.

What other advice were you expecting to get without including that information?? Links to the best ear defender reviews? Which you apparently already have and use...

I just thought that is what anyone would do.

I just wondered how people cope when they have there own children to look after. I'm sorry I'm not very good at expressing myself. I have flashbacks and anxiety attacks when he shouts and I have my own children to look after.

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:24

sixteenfurryfeet · 18/11/2023 21:08

Have you phoned the police when it is actually happening? They will take it seriously. I had to do it once, years ago and they turned up in 5 minutes.

I haven't. But I will if I can next time.

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Luxell934 · 18/11/2023 21:24

So you’ve reported to social services 3 or 5 times, you’re not sure. You said they haven’t done anything.

In your post you said you could hear him shouting and smacking her though the walls for a year. Now you’re not sure if he actually smacks her and it was only one occasion recently you thought this might have happened.

MidnightOnceMore · 18/11/2023 21:24

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 20:39

I've reported about 3 times now to Children's services. I don't hear him smack her, I hear him saying he is going to and her crying. Sorry, I thought it was obvious I would have done that. Maybe I should phone the police, I always thought Children's services would be better considering it's not illegal to shout at and smack your child.

The point of my post was how do I cope with it. Considering I have my own children to look after. Of course my heart goes out to the little girl.

The mother doesn't shout or anything. But I do hear her there sometimes when the father is shouting.

Ah, I see.

I didn't assume you'd reported. But now I understand you have.

I think then the issue is 'I've reported, but it's still happening, and I find it distressing/don't know how to live next door to it'.

I think you should report any actual threats of violence or episodes of hitting to the police when they happen.

Also phone the nspcc for general advice.

Sorry your thread has been a bit tough - it really wasn't clear you'd reported.

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:25

Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:09

You just said a minute ago it was three times...

I said about 3 times. I found my notes and it was 4 times and then I phoned again, just now.

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BodegaSushi · 18/11/2023 21:25

He's been smacking her since she's 6 months old? 🤔

Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:26

What have you reported? Did you tell them something different to what you've posted on here? Because it keeps changing.

What did they say the fifth time you reported it? Any different than the previous four responses?

MidnightOnceMore · 18/11/2023 21:26

UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:25

I said about 3 times. I found my notes and it was 4 times and then I phoned again, just now.

Thank you for keeping on reporting Flowers

It is horrible that things don't get fixed. But you're doing the right thing to keep calling.

tescocreditcard · 18/11/2023 21:27

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UndertheCedartree · 18/11/2023 21:27

Begsthequestion · 18/11/2023 21:15

You can not be serious

What do you mean? I can't actually see or hear her being smacked so I can't say he is definitely doing this.

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