AIBU to ask your opinion of GB News?

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A friend recommended it. Have listened a few times. Just seemed to be endless discussions about stopping the small boats. Presumably this is a hard right leaning Station?

GB news is for people who get bored by debate, listening to other opinions and compromise of any kind. Basically the things that you actually need to govern a country where people’s wants and needs vastly vary.

it’s much more exciting to listen to the shouty man and the outraged woman who have your opinions and like to scream them in everyone’s faces while Claiming the country’s gone to hell and no PM will ever be as good as Churchill.

Consensus is booorrrriiing…

I think the reason why people on the far right tend not to speak up as much in debates is not because they're "villified" as they so often like to claim. It is because they're not capable of putting forward valid arguments that actually stack up. It's much easier to claim that they have been "silenced", but if they were actually a majority capable of putting across a cogent point of view, how on earth could those on the left make them silent?

There is just as much criticism of those on the left as there is of those on the right, but it doesn't stop us from talking about the issues that we care about. Why would it? Instead of the constant whining about "left wing echo chambers", why don't the so-called "silent majority" start arguing their case with actual facts and evidence to support their point of view? If there are so many of them, I'm sure they'll drown us out in no time?

This isn’t correct as much as people who can’t see it may contribute

The attacks are there for a reason and you could equally say if you had a good basis for debate you wouldn’t need them.

I’m pretty good on facts it doesn’t mean threads don’t go the same way often.

I agree that threads often go the same way. My point is that there is a reason for that.

What you interpret as "attacks" are often just part of the debate. Either because people are pointing out a lack of coherent thinking or because people point out their moral objections to certain right wing positions.

If you're actually in the majority and capable of putting forward a solid argument, then why aren't more of you doing that?

And even worse as @sep135 pp some just give up. Which is a shame as I prefer a more balanced, factual discussion and some reasonable pp don’t bother any more on many threads.

Don't bother or can't do it?

No you really must skim over it

There’s no need for the “ “ on insults etc, of course they are there.

I do post obviously, as much as I’ve had some very invested types try for otherwise and yes I am capable of putting forward valid arguments. Easy

I can still see the effort on mn in particular to steer away from other views and the tactics used. If everyone was so secure they wouldn’t be needed

There are some actual insults, of course. On both sides. But there are plenty of people on both sides who are willing to engage in meaningful discussion and debate. If the right are in the majority and able to put forward cogent, well-reasoned arguments, then they should be able to comfortably hold their own in those arguments. I'm not sure why so many reportedly feel "silenced"?

I’d rather read a post from someone like @sep135 but often threads are more of this

..thick, bigot, racist, shill, bot, racist, whatever plus side order of sarcasm and snark

I can see why people might go and make a cup of tea instead of doing a decent factual, coherent post for more of the same

Shame though, some posters had good points

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves both left and right leaning political thought come from long traditions of philosophical, political and economic theory and debate, why do you think most people with more right leaning views are incapable of coherent thoughts and debates? It's also not simple, and often we have views on either side or they can change, eg I don't imagine anyone on this thread would be a conservative right leaning thinker if they moved to Russia or North Korea. Traditionally freedom of speech has been more a left-leaning value but identity politics is changing that.

Yes. All the thinking is done for you, in easily replicated chunks. It is an opinion channel, not a news channel.

I disagree... and we've seen as much on this thread.

Offer a different opinion, and you are immediately dismissed as a 'right-wing, conspiracy theorist loon' (or words to that effect).

I think you'll find it's the left who are unable to have a conversation, or listen to another point of view. I actually think that's one of the main reasons we ended up with Brexit.

People got sick of being talked over, ignored and called racist and thick, so did the one thing (*vote leave) that was guaranteed to make people listen. Except it didn't. Remainers STILL refused to listen and have been trying to undermine the result ever since.

(*I voted remain but can TOTALLY see why leave won).

Deffo 'don't bother' rather than 'can't do it'.

It's soul destroying to put across a well-reasoned, thoughtful argument only for it to be met with cries of 'thick, bigot, gammon, racist'. So people don't bother'.

‘Offer a different opinion, and you are immediately dismissed as a 'right-wing, conspiracy theorist loon' (or words to that effect).’

if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck…

GreekDogRescue · Yesterday 16:38

I suspect these bien pensants don’t get nearly as riled about the anti semitic BBC.

Anti-Semitic? I've seen that bandied around increasingly, of late. Can you give some examples? Sunday Morning Politics with Laura Keunssberg, perhaps?

Jumpingthruhoops · Yesterday 23:49

Exactly. Consistently rates higher than BBC and Sky.

Well, it seems that maths has changed since I left school, when a quarter of something was lower, rather than higher.

So that’s all you have..

Not the coherent debate as claimed pp

Does the BBC’s refusal to call Hammas terrorists not offend you?

The BBC refused to call Hammas terrorists.
Do you not find that anti semitic or do you not consider anti Semitism to be racism.

As a woke, virtue-signalling, loony-lefty, marxist-fascist-globalist, social justice warrior snowflake, I must say I get pretty annoyed (‘triggered’, even) by the notion that name-calling in political discourse is a particular feature of left wing politics.

At a grass roots level, it happens even-handedly, although I do find that the right-wing are the quickest to declare that being insulted means that they are being ‘silenced’.

In the media, though, right wing sources indulge in insults at a far higher rate than left wing ones, while at the same time propagating a narrative of victimhood.

Its a bit like how certain sections of the media (and their readership) decry the lefty-liberal mainstream media, despite the majority of newspapers being owned by right-wing billionaires.

I don’t get why people put more effort into saying all this when mn threads thrive on it.

Great post

Of course it's right wing. As the BBC is left wing.
I like to hear all sides whether I agree or not. I must admit I was quite shocked when I first watched it and heard views expressed that I have seldom come across on tv before. But vast numbers of the population agree with them and society is so divided now, much more than I ever remember.
I do think it's a shame there is such reluctance to even listen to other points of view, and just label them as evil or lunatics because they hold different opinions. It's very easy to live in an echo chamber and just nod along without understanding the other side.

The BBC is not left wing. At most, it is centrist but leaning slightly to the left of the absolute centre. Channel 4 News is the only tv news show that could reasonably be described as left wing. GB news is extremely right wing and easily the most partisan of the news networks.