I have quite strong views on prostitution

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Not at all about the women, just that I would not want to date a habitual user! Or punter as they're called. And yes this came up recently.

This is discussion about how you would feel about it?

AIBU - wouldn't mind
YANBU - would mind

I've read this with interest as a good friend of mine is a 'high class escort'

She loves her job, said she never takes a meeting with someone she wouldn't sleep with anyway, and makes in a month what I do in six. She also works for herself and has no pump, and pays taxes btw. Just explaining the other side of things from what I've seen

That sounds like it's working out for your friend.

I hope you realise that the overwhelming majority of prostituted women don't do it from choice, don't make huge amounts of money and don't get to pick and choose their buyers.

I do get this argument... But I've also heard of top escorts charging up to £80,000 a night.

IMO there's a vast difference between street prostitutes - who are often addicts/trafficked/have no choice (and which I think is horrific) - and the v expensive, high class prostitutes who do it as a lifestyle choice and make a LOT of money.

I wouldn't date a man who had used either tho, in response to the OP

I'm Not saying they do. But I am allowed to give my real life example

The men could try being a nice person who is genuinely interested in and caring about others, and then they would be able to date women and have sex?

I’ve never noticed a lack of the most boot-faced men being able to find partners in this world. Your average man is hardly a model, yet most men manage to find partners and have families (women too). Nice, genuine men actually get snapped up pretty easily. So are you just saying that this “itch” is the ability to have casual sex? For most of human history if men wanted sex they had to get married. Casual sex was largely not on the table. Nobody has a right to sex without strings whenever they feel like it.

Are you asking genuine questions or attempting to bring attention to your username?

Perhaps you should read Dr Brooke Magnanti’s book for some perspective.

A better perspective would be gained from reading "The pimping of prostitution: abolishing the sex worker myth" by Julie Bindel or "Prostitution narratives: stories of survival in the sex trade" by Caroline Norma and Melinda Tankard Reist.

I remember a blogger saying that the average woman has the same access to sex as an A-list celebrity... this is certainly not true for even good-looking men. An average woman could ask 100 men and be reasonably successful... an average man would fail miserably.

To put it into context, literally any girl can go on OLD and be swamped with men after one thing... but your average man could message thousands and not get any interest.

You seem to have completely divorced 'sex' from any notion of attraction or personal connection, like it is some kind of itch that needs to be scratched (it's not) and any old penis or vagina will do the trick.

I suppose some people approach sex like that (more men than women, I suspect) but realistically most people have higher standards than "will consent immediately when propositioned".

If all the women on here were told they couldnt have sex again for the rest of their life because men werent interested in them I bet they would change their attitude

What a pointless and ludicrous hypothetical thought-experiment and charmless username @RapeShouldBeLegal

CheekyHobson ……….. but prostitution is about sex and money so I’m not sure forging personally connections is a serious consideration for either party.

I understand that prostitution is about the exchange of money for the sexual act without involving the 'hindrance' of a personal connection.

For me, someone desperate enough for sex to purchase consent from someone desperate enough to sell it likely has defects of feeling and personality that would make them an unsuitable partner for me.

Haven't you got homework to do?

Gross. Definite NO from me.

Sex for women frequently does not end in orgasm, is often painful, can cause cystitis, and is high risk for us because we can get pregnant. Only one man has ever made me orgasm, with his hand not his cock!

Sex for men almost always ends in orgasm, is rarely painful, men rarely get UTIs by any cause, and men do not face pregnancy.

Men can and do batter and murder women. Women rarely batter and murder men.

Women who have a lot of sex are shamed, whilst promiscuous men are deemed studs.

So yes, on paper I can have sex whenever I like. In practice, the best likely outcome is I won't orgasm, it will probably hurt, and I'll spend a week on trimethoprim increasing the antibiotic resistance of my resident bacteria. The worst outcome is that I will end up dead or battered. Sex isn't looking all that appealing for me.

If men hadn't made casual sex for straight women a) dangerous b) typically a bit shit and c) shameful they'd get laid more.

Men need to be better in bed, respectful, less violent, less gross, and they would get laid more.

DH is an engineer and spent years at university with incel-nerd types whining about not getting laid while DH made out like a bandit. DH says, "I told them to put down the shit food, read a few books and get to the gym but they didn't".

Just because you can't get laid because you're just not interesting, funny, good-looking or good in bed, doesn't make it OK to pay a woman you KNOW wouldn't consent if you weren't paying. It circumvents consent and that makes you a rapist. And yes, there are lots of women who would love a relationship and can't get one. Have never had one. There isn't a movement or service for them because women aren't entitled.

Page 156 has her chemists' shopping list, including vaginal pessaries for irritation and potassium citrate granules for cystitis.

Can you think of any real job that causes vaginal irritation and cystitis? Because I can't. If there was one, the HSE would descend and the unions would be threatening legal action and strikes.

I think the last couple of posters nailed it. Men who are totally shit in bed (which is the majority of them from my own experience 😈 ) and have zero relational skills and only have a one track mind about sex “with girls” find it difficult to get regular sex.

Men who are decent, respectful but probably not great looking generally find it easier to find someone to have sex with them. Because, you know, they’re nice and respectful and do not view women as a cum hole. You don’t have to be a Hollywood a list to have sex with women. Plenty of men manage daily. Those who aren’t managing, take a look at yourself and maybe try and work out why rather than sit on the internet complaining about the injustice of it all.

You can tell from some of the responses on this thread already that we have the former group of men. Poooor little wee men who find it difficult to have sex with ‘girls’ because women own the power of the sex they’re supposedly entitled to. OLD is unfair because women hold the power! Lol! It’s easier to blame women I suppose.

These men usually marry some poor women and because they’re so self absorbed and obsessed with their own sexual pleasure, they usually end up in sexless marriages because they’d rather echo the unfairness of being able to have sex whenever they want rather than actually work on their skills of satisfying their sexual partner. Eg they’d rather watch porn and wank rather than research what skills they can bring to the bedroom to satisfy their partner. They only realise when it’s way too late and their woman won’t go near them for years on end. If only they had the brain capacity to realise if they put their sexual pleasure secondary to their partner’s, they may actually have had a different experience.