People now dumping bull breed puppies, what can be done?

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Just seen this on local FB and I'm sure this isn't the only case.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/391520164531031/permalink/2023633937986304/

What can be done to stop things like this happening or is it inevitable with the recent ban? I'm not even sure if they are the banned breed

@Soubriquet incorrect. Yes, the type of person that would want a human killing breed is obviously a problem, but genes matter, hugely. Clicker train the killing machine all you want, but it’s genes compel it to maul and kill.

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So you are also of the persuasion that "Guns don't kill - people do"?

All dogs have the ability to bite. The size, weight, bite strength and aggression inherent in dog breeds absolutely DO make a massive difference.

Bully breeds were bred to fight bulls FFS. That's why they are so named. They are unsuitable as family pets as are a number of other breeds.

You could fight off an attacking lab. You wouldn't have a chance against any bull breed.

There are lots of untrained dogs of lots of breeds around but its only XL bullies killing passing adults in the street. Someone's badly trained cockerpoo or aggressive chihuahua isn't mauling someone to death on the pavement while multiple grown men beat it with sticks to try to get it off the victim. That's only happening with this breed. I'm not denying it's owners too, but it's absolutely both owner and breed.

You can say whatever you like. It doesn’t make it true - you’re still talking bollocks.

They will be pts as they rightly should be. Frankly I’d say no exemptions as there is just no need at all to keep this breed. It doesn’t have a “job” it’s not fit to just be a pet either.

Should also be a ban on breeding dogs that just anit healthy like brachycephalic ones.

You cannot train the aggression out of these any more than a Whippet can be trained not to want to chase rabbits or squirrels, or a Border collie can be trained to not “ herd”
Aggression Is hardwired into Pit crosses and Pits
These are phenomenally strong dogs as adults and the dogs trust adopter had both sides of abdomen chewed and mauled including her breasts and limbs.

Look at the statistics for child maulings and dog attacks.
Bull breeds lead the way for savage maulings and death of humans more than any other dog type.

I wonder what the next ‘scary looking’ dog will be to replace xl bullies, probably already commanding good prices on certain web sites or underground. Breeding and importing dogs and dog semen needs much stricter controls. I feel very sad for the vets who have to euthanise healthy dogs, no, it’s not the worst thing for a dog, but what about the vets.

All that's going to happen is that the XL bully's will be dumped or worse put to sleep for compensation and the back yard breeders will buy another money making bitch like a Doberman or Alaskan malamute or go smaller and fit more breeding bitches with chihuahuas or pugs etc. Ive already seen evidence of this on my council estate, there has been a sudden influx of north face ninjas walking small cute dogs . Then those breeds will be demonised.

What we need is for more licensing around dogs and cats full stop. Cats kill a huge % of wildlife for fun every year and our countryside wildlife is already in decline. We need Stronger policing on dog ownership aswell with Stronger rights to seize an animal if it's out of control or not being correctly cared for.

The animal shelters are full and yet we still import dogs to live in shelters but of course this lines someone's pockets. Those XL puppies look cute now but it won't belong before they weigh more than a child. Only thing to do is put them to be sleep.

@Skyellaskerry My guess is they will go for something like a cane corso, boerboel, Caucasian ocharvaka, Turkish kangal.

I don’t think a doberman or german shepherd will cut the mustard any more when there’s something bigger and badder out there already.

This is heartbreaking!

The government needs to change the rules so that rescues can take these dog breeds in and should be encouraged to do so.

People should never be so concerned about surrendering their pets to a rescue, that they’d rather dump them and put them at risk of unimaginable cruelty.

The only reason that Bull breeds bite/maim/kill the most is because they're the greatest NUMBER OF DOGS

The most common dog in Britain is a (lovely) Staffy

Yes they won’t be re-homed and will get more aggressive

This has been the trouble all along.

People with absolutely no experience of dogs buy them off gumtree cheap then get bored with it and sell it on.
The dog just gets passed around, is neglected and abused each owner the dog just gets worse.

Of nearly all of the stories of killings you find that the owners haven’t had the dog long or the dog has had multiple owners.

When staffies were the status dogs my friend got one for £20.
She was only 3, had 7 owners and at least 5 litters of puppies.

There will be a new status dog after the XL bully.

The government needs to crack down on breeders and selling dogs off sites like Facebook and gumtree.

I think unless you are a licensed breeder then all dogs should only be got from rescue centres.

😄 they’re not even in the top 5, why invent lies?

It will be mals next, already seeing a few of them in my area I have to avoid and I've seen two separate ones bite people minding their own business.

Always the aggressive biting type dogs that the most unsuitable owners choose.
There were ads for XL /Malinois puppies on those awful online sites.
Idiot magnets.

People should only select a dog well suited to their circumstances-
Often this is would be a stuffed dog from
a toy shop.

I would have agreed with every word until we got one of our current dogs. He's "under-confident" (the vet's description) so hasn't been castrated as that may or may not make things worse. Vets don't seem to agree on whether it actually changes behaviour or not.

We've worked on the dog's confidence and he's a lot less timid than when he came to us but he won't be neutered unless there's a medical reason for it (such as signs of BPH). He's the only dog we've ever had that hasn't been "fixed" and we'd still neuter other dogs - unless there's a good reason not to. But this dog has changed my mind about a blanket, one-size-fits-all approach to neutering.

The problem as always is that responsible owners will license, insure and socialise/train their dogs (and neuter them if that were the law) but would there actually be any enforcement against the people who don't bother? Without that there's no point changing the law.

How heartless. It is not their fault some humans are scum

Yeah stick them in a rescue so they can live out their days in a small pen getting increasingly feral and vicious. Or put to sleep. I’m sure lots of people would be happy to do the job.

Cane corso will be next I reckon.

@Forsakenalmosthuman our Cardigan corgi, a potentially valuable rare breed, was dumped by a backyard breeder in awful condition and picked up by Dogs Trust. He was only about 1, about 60% of the weight he should be, poor coat, terrified of hands and boots. He's a different dog now.

Ugh, wrong! It most certainly is the breed. Bad owners just compound the problem.

Thank you for rescuing him. I wish more people were like you. X