People now dumping bull breed puppies, what can be done?

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Just seen this on local FB and I'm sure this isn't the only case.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/391520164531031/permalink/2023633937986304/

What can be done to stop things like this happening or is it inevitable with the recent ban? I'm not even sure if they are the banned breed

All rehoming centres can at present rehome the XL bully types - the ban comes in on 1 Jan, doesn't it?

What owner in their right mind is going to take on one of these animals though? So the animal remains in kennels/rehoming centres, not getting exercised, not getting socialised, getting increasingly more feral and un-rehome-able.

Putting them to sleep is the best move.

The ones that want status dogs. There's people in the two areas I go to regularly who have recently got XL bullys. They enjoy the look on people's faces. One woman sits outside her flat, which opens on to the pavement, with her new dog off the lead. She looks very pleased with herself when people cross over.
The 'never put a healthy dog down' isn't sustainable. I say that as a former multiple GS owner.

the 'never put a healthy dog down' isn't sustainable.

Course it's not. But can you imagine the fuss from the animal-obsessed if the Dogs Trust announced a change of policy?

Round them up and euthanise them. The more that are dumped the better.

Maybe the Government should call for volunteers. You don't need full veterinary training to deliver a lethal injection.

There's a far worse fate than PTS for many animals. Indiscriminate breeding of animals is a massive issue for the UK. The explosion of lockdown puppies and the crazy money charged for them made so many people think they could earn a few grand and tried their hand at backyard breeding.

We also have a big problem with horse breeding. Horses can live 30 plus years,cost a fortune to look after properly. Yet how many bits of scrub land do you see with a poor mare tethered and churning out a foal every year.

Par for the course for this type of dog. Feckless owners who don't give a shiny shit for the dog who often becomes dangerous and dog aggressive {and human aggressive} as it matures.
These XL Types have a very short fuse.
The Dog's Trust and RSPCA have had horrendous mauling cases recently by allowing these to be adopted out.

yes, they drown them in firefighting foam with co2 bubbles in it. so gas them to death and mass burn their probably dead or unconscious corpses after that.

You people do realise that a person, who loves animals, has to ‘just put them to sleep’? Highly stressful and unpleasant for that person.

Sadly, and I’m a lifelong dog lover, they should be PTS.

These are physically demanding dogs. Why people get them when they are incapable of physically exercising and training them is baffling.
I think the thought of easy money made many people have a go at breeding ..
I do know of someone who made £22,000 breeding a litter of blue x blue 'Pedigrees' during lockdown.
They are not of good conformation, and one has a serious eye issue.
but 'Blue' is a popular colour.

Someone else decided to have a litter , they researched it well, but are left with several unsold puppies {Non Bull breed, but a popular type} that are now beyond the age that is ideal to get a puppy in terms of training and socialising them.

A single puppy before vaccinations are complete can be carried about and socialised outdoors with people but it becomes harder with several, and it's far harder to train a group of siblings as they want to play with each other, not listen to the trainer.

I have a pedigree girl that people assumed I'd be breeding from...but I'd never want to have the worry of finding responsible homes for them -so she is spayed.

Have never bred a litter of cats or dogs- {or any other animal}
and never will.

Pig 'slaughter' in the case of swine flu in China was horrific.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/video-swine-fever-pigs-buried-alive-in-china

Yeah... not that simple.

You'll need to live in a property you own or that the landlord does not stipulate 'no banned/illegal breeds'.

You need to be resident at the listed address all the time, so if you work away, are studying away, ill... basically if you're away without the dog more than 3 weeks out of 52 (that will include holiday!)... you've breached the certification conditions. The dog is registered to one keeper, so its not like you can leave hte dog home with husband/wife/older teens.

You can no longer get health insurance for an exempted dog - only third party liability. Got a dog that has a 'for life' policy, and existing health conditions. Tough.

You'll find it hard to find secure fields (whilst they're a great idea, a private hire field, many are not insured for exempted dogs and aren't going to get insurance, its not easy) to allow exempted dogs to run around.

All walks thus are on lead and muzzled - the 'public places' one must muzzle a dog include anywhere theres a percieved or assumed right of access to the public (ie delivery people, emergency services) so this may include your front garden and car.

You'll need to fund the exemption itself, plus neutering/spaying so thats anywhere from 500+ and for some the time limit for that is pretty short as its related to the age of the dog.

Finding trainers/behaviourists - difficult, the good uns are well insured but many insurance companies are not willing to cover working with exempted dogs. The bad uns of course couldn't give a shit.

Most sensible rescues do euthanise the non adoptable and aggressive. Arguably a dog with aggression or anxiety so bad it’s unable to be rehomed isn’t a healthy dog…

I personally agree with the ban but I don’t think normal people with a well behaved bull type need to be so worried about it. Police are hardly going to be dragging dogs from owners just walking calmly down the street. There isn’t the man power for a start.
The targets are going to be those who clearly shouldn’t own one, those parading them in public to harass and scare people, those selling untrained inbred monster looking things on gumtree, escaped dogs roaming around clearly not owned by someone responsible enough to contain it etc. Also if you can’t afford £100 you can’t afford a dog.

If people comply with the rules I can’t imagine there will be any real impact to normal people owning a bull breed type nor is the dog ‘at risk’ of anything. All this talk of being terrified for their dogs is a bit dramatic.

Poor little things. It’s not the breed it’s feckless owners who won’t train them properly

Incorrect. Of course it’s the breed. Vicious, dangerous, vile things they are.

It’s really not. Bull breeds are some of the softest and soppiest breeds about

Course they are! That’s why they’re always mauling people to death… Oh no, wait! 🤔

Thanks for the laugh this afternoon 😂😂😂

I just said it’s the fucking owners. They are the new status dogs so the people weren’t training them properly.

Now watch as the next breed gets blamed because people are using them as status dogs. Rotties and Doberman’s I bet

And huskies

All pet ownership should be licensed and regulated in my opinion. For a very low nominal fee for any animals that are indoors only and a bit higher for pets that go outside and may need warden services.

But it IS the breed.

These people would never get a Golden Retriever or a Cockerpoo because they are not inherently dangerous. You can say it's the owners until the end of time, but the fact is they wouldn't get these dogs if these dogs weren't predisposed to aggression.

Edit: And of course there will be a new 'status' breed in a few years. And that will get banned to. And so on and so on. But, ultimately, if we shot every single 'status' breed on this planet the world would be a better place cos Dave down the road who smokes weed isn't ever going to buy a cockerpoo.

They'll have to be put down. Sadly the irresponsible breeders will just move on to whatever the next fad will be, and all the gullible idiots will keep them in business. The thicko irresponsible ex-pitbull owners will no doubt get some other breed of large vicious dog and neglect to train them too. Deaths will happen again.

Who do we currently feed to the lions in the zoo? Let's give the cows, sheep and pigs a few months' respite, and offload the bully breed dogs there. Simple.

If vets can't keep up with the euthanasia appointments, the abattoir workers can do it.
And if you're upset about that, consider how many cows, pigs and sheep those abattoir working routinely slaughter, just to feed these dogs/other dogs/cats. Or indeed YOU.

It's a messed up world when people have such a disconnect and lack of concern for farmed animals, yet go doolally over animals bred to maul to death.

I say this as a vegan of 25 years. These dogs are lucky to get a simple dose of pink juice. They won't even understand. It will be quick and painless. Compare to the animals lining up at the slaughterhouses who absolutely do know what's coming.

It's a messed up world when people have such a disconnect and lack of concern for farmed animals, yet go doolally over animals bred to maul to death.

I agree. It makes little sense.