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Was I in the wrong re meal?

155 replies

MealAIBU · 13/11/2023 12:46

My parent wanted to go out for a meal for their birthday. Fine by me.

They told me which restaurant they were going to and I said I wouldn’t be able to go as the restaurant doesn’t allow under 18s after 6.30pm (they don’t kick them out but they’re not allowed to sit down and eat after that time and won’t be seated if you do) and parent had booked for 7.30pm. I’m a single parent. Said I hoped they had a good time though.

Parent asked if I could get a babysitter but I said I couldn’t as my usual sitters were going to the meal and 1 DC has SN so can’t just be left with anyone. They asked if I could ask the restaurant if DC could come, and the restaurant said no I could book for an earlier time or not bring. Parent didn’t want to go when there would be the chance of loads of kids around. Parent asked me to ask ExH to have DC an extra weekend as a one off but I knew it wasn’t possible as ExH lives 2 hours and works on the weekends he doesn’t have DC, I asked anyway but the answer was no as expected. Parent said they were going to this resturant at that time and I had to be there but there was no way I could be.

I wasn’t upset, it’s one of the drawbacks of having a DC with SN and being single, theres no-one to have said DC if everyone goes out for a meal. I dealt with it.

I am now being completely ignored and insulted by family members including parent whose birthday it was saying I didn’t make enough effort to go to the meal so they don’t see why they should make an effort with me. Apparently I could of just driven to ExHs house and dumped the DC on him and he’d have “had to deal with it” but if he’d have been at work when I left them they’d have sat outside his house in the cold and dark for potentially 10 hours or longer, DC with SN can barely manage outdoor PE at school in the Autumn and Spring terms so I doubt they’d have coped with longer, and they can’t just be left with anyone due to the SN, they don’t always sleep so it was a lot to ask someone to do, considering ExH will only have them for 2 nights a month due to it.

It means the one night a week 1 of my siblings was helping me with childcare (paid for by the way) has been taken away and my DC don't understand why.

Maybe I could of made more effort to go, and left DC with someone who doesn’t know them to sit with a child who may not sleep for a couple of hours but then I’d have had less to spend anyway as babysitters here are £15-18 an hour and they got to the restaurant for 7.20pm and left at almost 10pm so I’d have needed to spend £50-60 for what would work out as a £45 meal.

I’m the only sibling of 3 with children, so I’d have spent basically double what everyone else did.

WIBU to not go?

OP posts:
MealAIBU · 13/11/2023 16:43

gotomomo · 13/11/2023 16:28

But how much notice did you have? If 3 months, switching with your ex is a perfectly reasonable request, if 2 weeks a lot less so

@gotomomo Ex won't swap, no matter how much notice he has, we stick to the schedule always.

OP posts:
Valerianandfoxglovesoup · 13/11/2023 16:48

I think you should identify as a single daughter as well as a single parent. How horrid x

Caroparo52 · 13/11/2023 16:55

Poor you op.
Have they always been selfish and inconsiderate?

RunningUpThatBuilding · 13/11/2023 17:11

"Apparently I could of just driven to ExHs house and dumped the DC on him and he’d have “had to deal with it”

The fact that they suggested this tells you all you need to know - they are completely unhinged.

TheCatterall · 13/11/2023 17:18

@MealAIBU massive squishes - they no doubt knew your ex wouldn’t/couldn’t etc but don’t care.

im sorry but your family sound like arseholes. I’d be distancing myself from them going forward and be in no rush to resume any kind of communication or relationship with them if everything is so transactional and their way or the highway.

don’t let your guard down again with them. Don’t let them have a space in your life that relies on their support. Find a new tribe to support yourself with.

Superduper02 · 13/11/2023 17:25

Can't believe anyone would dare to add this to your plate when you've clearly already got enough going on and not flush with funds!

mathanxiety · 13/11/2023 17:26

gotomomo · 13/11/2023 16:28

But how much notice did you have? If 3 months, switching with your ex is a perfectly reasonable request, if 2 weeks a lot less so

Sometimes there are very obvious reasons why an ex is an ex.

mathanxiety · 13/11/2023 17:28

FloweryName · 13/11/2023 15:42

You could have tried to get your ex to swop weekends, even if you knew he would be unlikely to do it for whatever reason. I can understand your parent being hurt if they think you didn’t try and weren’t bothered about going.

She asked. He refused.

She knows this man better than you do, and I'd say judging from her comments on him here that there are very solid reasons why he's an ex.

mathanxiety · 13/11/2023 17:30

Raincloudsonasunnyday · 13/11/2023 15:59

I will never understand how grown ass adults make such a big deal over birthdays. To fall out with your own child, for siblings to withdraw babysitting options (paid for, at that!), to treat your own grandchildren with such disregard....for what? A bit of attention? Hope it was worth it, "happy" birthday indeed.

People who take pleasure in playing power games with their families do this all the time.

Allthingsdecember · 13/11/2023 17:35

Your family sounds horrible! They set you up to fail by insisting that you attend, but making it impossible for you to go.

Leave the selfish arseholes to it.

NotesBod · 13/11/2023 17:35

Your parents sound horrid. Self absorbed, controlling, unsupportive, manipulative and lacking emotional maturity 💐

They could've chosen to celebrate the weekend that your DC were at their dad's house.

They could've chosen a different restaurant so your DC could attend.

No, they chose the weekend (an adult can cope with it being the weekend before or after their birthday so that key members of their family can attend) AND the restaurant and made life difficult for you. Refused to budge an inch to accommodate you as a single parent/their GC. Now they are creating loads of drama. I wouldn't be surprised it if was on purpose.

SallyWD · 13/11/2023 17:41

They sound unreasonable and immature. All they had to do was choose a different restaurant but no - they chose the only option that made it impossible for you to go. Then they blame you!! Unbelievable!
And to then ignore you - what a childish and spiteful way to behave. Are they usually like this?

backtowinter · 13/11/2023 17:44

That's awful.

Here 💐

Fairospop22 · 13/11/2023 17:44

YANBU your family sound fucking awful

iklboo · 13/11/2023 17:57

Even if it were a significant birthday your family are being unreasonable, childish arseholes.

christmascrackle · 13/11/2023 17:57

Poor you stuck with a horrible ExH and ditto family. I'm really sorry

itsalongwaybackfromsorry · 13/11/2023 18:18

To be blunt, your parents are selfish dicks.

I'm so sorry they can't see past the end of their own noses. And that they and your siblings are punitive to boot.

I really feel for you, OP.

HappiestSleeping · 13/11/2023 18:20

@MealAIBU I have always worked on the basis that if person a wants person b at an event, then they will consider the needs of person b.

My family do this to me all the time. They organise things between themselves and expect me to fit in at the last minute, and are then surprised when I say "sorry, if you really wanted me to be there you'd have let me know sooner / organised at a time or location I could get to / etc etc".

Sounds like yours are giving you a similar three line whip. I would give it no further consideration as they have completely failed to recognise your circumstances. My response would be "clearly you didn't actually want me to attend, or you would have been more flexible with arrangements, so off you fuck".

Chipsahoyagain · 13/11/2023 18:44

WiIIowT · 13/11/2023 12:58

Selfish arse parent!

I would be so embarrassed if this was my parent. They are a disgrace treating you and your dc like this.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/11/2023 19:00

A lot are blaming the ex for not having the kids

But if it's not his weekend and he has plans /work then not fair to ask him to change

Keeping to the same alternate weekends make sense so everyone know where they ar

Figmentof · 13/11/2023 19:08

Hillarious · 13/11/2023 13:59

I agree with @PuttingDownRoots Choosing a weekend when the DC are with your ex would have been a perfect solution.

You can’t choose your birthday! I would want to celebrate a big birthday (any birthday to be honest) on the day not the next weekend. I am going to go against the grain here, but I think OP should have tried a bit harder and in any case even for herself, it might be worth cultivating more options.

Findinganewme · 13/11/2023 19:42

i am sad for you and for your child. I wonder what your usual relationship is, with your family. Do they see your child enough to know her/him?

you have so much to juggle as a single parent, with the added layer of being a single parent. The last thing you need is this kind of stress from the very people who should be supporting you in whatever way they can.

they chose a restaurant for a time where your child can’t be looked after by a known person. Even if your child didn’t not have additional requirements, you should not be expected to leave them with someone you don’t know, to accommodate their outing. Your child’s safety and well-being are dot paramount importance and this should be a given.

the withdrawal of your sisters support, given your circumstances, is heartless and the fact that your own sister should require money to care for her own niece or nephew is saddening in the first place.

their behaviour is awful and I feel for you and your your child. I really hope your kiddo doesn’t feel unwanted in this sort of setting.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 13/11/2023 21:07

PuttingDownRoots · 13/11/2023 13:16

If your presence was really necessary and they wanted childfree... why not book on one of the weekends your children were with your EX?

This.

It feels like they set you up to fail. If I wanted someone there who wouldn't have any baby sitting options some days, but some days DC was with their father I'd double check the days and book it for one they was free. They knew you wouldn't be able to come, so it wasn't a genuine invitation, and are now punishing you for a self evident fact because they've decided you could change it if you wanted to enough. Does this parent tend to scapegoat people? Are they toxic and others take their side to avoid the nasty behaviour?

backtowinter · 13/11/2023 22:56

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/11/2023 19:00

A lot are blaming the ex for not having the kids

But if it's not his weekend and he has plans /work then not fair to ask him to change

Keeping to the same alternate weekends make sense so everyone know where they ar

wi didn't see a lot blaming the ex

It seems he has previous for other things, but I didn't see anyone blaming him for OP's parents behaviour

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/11/2023 23:46

It was more so that's why he's an ex as won't swap

Op asked him he said no. Fair enough