To not understand how Yoko Ono

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Is held up as a feminist icon after pimping out her 21 year old assistant to John Lennon:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12735915/Yoko-asked-sleep-John-fell-love-thats-wanted-one-bizarre-episodes-Beatles-history-Pang-Lennons-lover-18-months-tells-story.html

Why hasn’t she been cancelled?

I am a big Beatles fan I believed this story that was in the press that portrayed her as cold, heartless & manipulative….. until I watched a documentary called Lennon: The New York years. It shows yoko Ono herself tells from her perspective what happened. He was getting off his face & they were at a party he took another woman into a room & slept with her, whilst Yoko was there. That was the reason they were apart for 18 months or the ‘lost weekend’ it completely changed everything I thought I knew about her,& other women I looked back over my life & realised we have been fed a narrative about certain women, the perfumo girls, Linda McCartney, Jane Asher, Yoko, Meghan markle, Diana, Fergie the list goes on. It has taught me not to believe everything that is written in the press especially the daily mail.

Self and obsessed spring to mind.

I don't agree that we've been "fed" the same narrative about all the beatles' and other famous men's partners and wives - far from it. There are multiple narratives and of course it's hard to discern the truth about people you don't know. I don't feel I've been sold a story that Yoko is a "villain" though.

Love yoko. Lennon was a tiresome prick tho.

Didn't know she was an icon. Things you learn on Mumsnet.

Why hasn’t she been cancelled?
And just fuck off with this cancelling shit, it's not funny or clever, it's bullying.

She's neither a feminist icon nor a normal person

That was the party where he screamed ‘I wish I was back with Paul’, wasn’t it?

No sympathy for Ono from me. She knew what she was getting into when she went after John. And where was her sympathy for Cynthia when she was sitting in Cynthia’s kitchen wearing Cynthia’s dressing gown?

Not sure she is. Yoko Ono seems to have been pretty manipulative at times, and rather controlling if you believe the saltier biographies of John Lennon.

I have always thought there was something oddly choreographed about John Lennon’s murder - the build up to it, him giving an interview the day before announcing that life begins at 40, her giving an interview revealing their schedule, minute by minute, and the exact route they took to and from the studio then sacking John’s bodyguard a few days before he was shot, her repeated use of the word ‘phony’ in I’m Moving On, her affairs with the two Sams, and on and on.

After 40 odd years, I think it’s reasonable to wonder who knew what and when about what happened to John Lennon. And I’d include John Lennon himself in that as well.

She sacked the bodyguard?

Feminist icon? What now?!

She didn’t exactly sack the bodyguard. She gave him a leave of absence until the day after John was killed.

John Lennon was an absolute prick.

I’d never thought about her use of ‘phony’ in I’m Moving On before, but it’s surely no coincidence that it was Chapman’s (and Holden Caufield’s) favourite word.

Icon, feminist, never.

has noone ever heard the song i will be youryoko ono

takes the piss how she was always there with john wherever he went

im sure she knw what she wa doing

Exactly. It obviously has to do with Chapman’s programming.

That’s what I thought tbh

Now we're descending into conspiracy theory.

Then there’s the stuff with Chapman himself. A part time security guard who somehow had enough disposable income to go gallivanting around the world and with an interest in art collecting. It’s … troubling.

Feel a bit sad for May Pang, desperately selling tales of who she had sex with 50 years ago.

So we should close the discussion down, should we? How convenient.

I'm not saying it should be closed down, just that the idea Yoko was sending coded messages to Mark Chapman is far-fetched.

The proud owner of a Norman Rockwell and a Salvador Dali, no less.

Seriously, it’s a lot less far fetched than Chapman being an art collector.