To not understand how Yoko Ono

[Anonymous45789]

Is held up as a feminist icon after pimping out her 21 year old assistant to John Lennon:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12735915/Yoko-asked-sleep-John-fell-love-thats-wanted-one-bizarre-episodes-Beatles-history-Pang-Lennons-lover-18-months-tells-story.html

Why hasn’t she been cancelled?

But if it had been as transactional as Yoko or an emissary saying, here's £100k (or however much that artwork would have cost at the time) to kill John Lennon, there would have been no need for coded messages in Yoko's music.

Who was sainted because of the way he died and cos he wrote 'Imagine'.

If he'd have lived, he'd have written crap that would make The Frog Song look good.
If he'd hadn't written Imagine, he wouldn't be seen as quite so saintly.

As for Yoko. I don't care for her art. It's pretentious wank. But she's made a market for it ...

Chapman thinks he killed Lennon, there’s no doubt about that. And that’s how they’ve got away with it. You think they’d risk a simple hit?

It's a bit daft thinking the only thing he was 'sainted' for, other than dying, was Imagine.

That doesn't answer the point that the pieces of evidence you've cited cancel each other out.

'Catcher in the Rye' was and still is a hugely influential novel. People read it as a teen and think it's profound (then read it again in their 40s and realise actually it isn't). Aside from this, the word 'phoney' exists independently of CITR.

It’s not the age it’s the fact she was her BOSS and therefore abused her power. This woman was probably scared of being fired.

how , er, timely.
hi daily mail!

I think Yoko is perhaps in poor health at the moment. It's completely unheard of her not to stick her oar into things around The Beatles but her absence has been very notable the last week with The Beatles new song. She is in her 90s though.

As for the point in question, she was a very far out artist and personality. Abandoned her youngest child and by all accounts left John to single handedly raise their boy.

The article linked doesn't support this rationale.

Aside from that, why should she have been so scared of being fired that she'd comply with this unreasonable request against her will? She was a PA to probably the most in-demand and demanding man in the public eye at the time. Had she been fired and sought a job as 'former PA to John Lennon' she's have been inundated with offers of employment.

Now getting massive adverts for Beatles' album on my screen 😃

I have never seen anyone anywhere hold her up as a feminist icon. OP where have you seen this?

What cancels what out?

Chapman’s wife was an occultist, just like Yoko. She arranged Chapman’s trip around the world in a SW direction, identical to and at the same time as the one John took in 1978, both ending up in Japan. There’s no way this can be a coincidence.

Chapman and his wife spent night after night reciting passages from Catcher in the Rye.

She worked for Yoko, not John. Yoko dealt with the staff.

And no, she wouldn’t have been inundated with offers of employment had she been fired by the Lennons. They made sure that no one would hire her again when they finally did fire her in 1975.

As an aside, and not in any way a coincidence, the Guardian did a gushing ‘Top Ten’ of Yoko Ono’s music yesterday.
Many obscure albums are lauded to the skies in prose surely destined for Private Eye’s Pseuds’ Corner.

Same difference, given that the two were performatively inseparable.

Pang's bio on Wikipedia doesn't suggest 'no one would hire her again':

"After Lennon returned to Ono, Pang started working for United Artists Records and Island Records as a public relations manager,[19] working on albums by Bob Marley and Robert Palmer."

I have never thought of her as a feminist icon.

Subliminal messages cancel out a paid hit.

It's fairly obvious Chapman was obsessed with CITR but there's no reason to think Yoko would have known this.

I’m pretty sure the Lennon estate pays people to write that shit. She obviously wouldn’t want Paul to one up her now that the Beatles are at number one. How timely.

That’s why it wasn’t a paid hit. Obviously.

I don't blame her - Paul isn't much better than John in terms of his personal conduct. He sold Heather Mills right down the river.

So then your comments about Chapman mysteriously being able to afford prestigious artwork are not in fact being suggested as evidence he was acting on behalf of someone else?

I don’t think Chapman had a clue who was financing what.

I’m not sure about his wife, mind you.

Any woman who stands by a convicted murderer, or even more those who marry a convicted murderer serving time in prison, is odd to be honest.

But she then adds that the order wasn't needed because lust took over. Then she had sex with him for years,even after Yoko realised it didn't stop John cheating with other women. Yoko tried to get them to stop. May wasn't a victim in this.