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Gym response to being flashed in ladies changing room?

234 replies

Yajebbend · 06/11/2023 21:16

A male entered the female changing room and flashed at me late last Saturday night. I was alone and naked. I reported to the gym who have said that they checked the cameras three times and can’t see a male entering. It must be on there somewhere it happened, I’m raging about it and the response. I want him identified so I can report to police.

aibu to think this isn’t good enough

OP posts:
penjil · 07/11/2023 01:04

ilovesooty · 07/11/2023 00:51

Don't even go there with me

Good grief. Violent assault as perceived retribution is never acceptable.

Many countries have the death penalty as retribution. That is acceptable to them. And I'm not talking Iran or Saudi either, but the USA.....plus there are many people who want it brought back in the UK.

Remember, what's acceptable for some, isn't for others. Leave people to their own opinions, even if you don't agree.

MistressoftheYoniverse · 07/11/2023 01:05

100%

Pineapplepots · 07/11/2023 01:08

penjil · 07/11/2023 01:04

Many countries have the death penalty as retribution. That is acceptable to them. And I'm not talking Iran or Saudi either, but the USA.....plus there are many people who want it brought back in the UK.

Remember, what's acceptable for some, isn't for others. Leave people to their own opinions, even if you don't agree.

I was wondering how long it would be until someone championed the death penalty. There are VERY few democracies who still have it. There is a reason for that. It belongs back in the dark ages with a number of posters on this thread.

Louise303 · 07/11/2023 01:11

Report it asap the gym has to have a record of all the males that were in the gym at the time.

MistressoftheYoniverse · 07/11/2023 01:13

I don't agree with the death penalty...you know why? not because people who take lives don't deserve to die..but if you get it wrong you cannot take it back..a person who is potentially innocent has more value than an openly guilty person..

ilovesooty · 07/11/2023 01:30

penjil · 07/11/2023 01:04

Many countries have the death penalty as retribution. That is acceptable to them. And I'm not talking Iran or Saudi either, but the USA.....plus there are many people who want it brought back in the UK.

Remember, what's acceptable for some, isn't for others. Leave people to their own opinions, even if you don't agree.

Yes. Countries which are not civilised have the death penalty. People who endorse violent retribution outwith the framework of the law are thugs. Not that it's relevant to the OP's distress so I won't derail any further.

I've no time for vigilantes, thugs and those who endorse them.

ilovesooty · 07/11/2023 01:32

Louise303 · 07/11/2023 01:11

Report it asap the gym has to have a record of all the males that were in the gym at the time.

Yes. There have to be mechanisms for knowing exactly who's in the building.

MistressoftheYoniverse · 07/11/2023 01:38

Lol at 'civilised'..the same people destroying lives and exploiting people..so long as it's sanctioned by 'the law' ..smh

Firefly1987 · 07/11/2023 01:42

I don't understand why men do this. WTF is wrong with them? Sorry you had to go through that OP and hope you get the evidence. Could he even have been a staff member?

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 07/11/2023 02:05

Personally I wouldn't worry too much about being flashed, but the fact that he entered the women's changing rooms is another level. Yes, report it to the police, it seems the gym don't actually care.

And no, their response is not good enough.

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 07/11/2023 02:07

MistressoftheYoniverse · 07/11/2023 01:13

I don't agree with the death penalty...you know why? not because people who take lives don't deserve to die..but if you get it wrong you cannot take it back..a person who is potentially innocent has more value than an openly guilty person..

I agree. I'm not in the UK but there have been cases here where someone has been jailed for years for murder, only for them to be found innocent several years/decades later.

Also, if it's wrong to kill - which it is obviously is - then how can a punishment of killing another person be right?

PinkPantherPrat · 07/11/2023 02:39

@Loubelle70 you need to report your 'partner' to the police. Your girl will grow up to be as awful as yourselves if you don't address how you reacted.

She'll probably be punching people in the high street and spitting on them, creating the next generation of violence.

Try reading to kill a mockingbird and tell him, from me, there is nothing admirable about him.

echt · 07/11/2023 03:39

I don't understand why men do this

For the same reason dogs lick their genitals, because they can.

AzureBlue99 · 07/11/2023 05:04

This thread is being derailed with all the vigilante stuff. How is that helping the OP?

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/11/2023 05:07

What a rubbish response from the gym. I do hope you go to the police op. I can totally understand why you were ok on Sunday and fuming the next day. It takes time to process the effects when you have been subject to any violation.

lap90 · 07/11/2023 05:16

That's shocking. Indeed report to police. Is it a well known gym chain? Post on socials too.

Yajebbend · 07/11/2023 05:47

It’s a David Lloyd gym

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Halloweensparkle · 07/11/2023 05:55

HRTQueen · 06/11/2023 21:20

I would go to the police once they are involved the gym will take it more seriously

it wouldn’t surprise me if they hadn’t even checked their cameras many people don’t think of flashing as being a dangerous crime for many it’s just a prank it’s not and it can be terrifying and often the start of more aggressive dangerous behaviour

Yep thinking of that Met police officer who killed that young woman who was walking back from a vigil and pretended he was on duty. He had flashed before and done other things before but nothing was done about it

Bournetilly · 07/11/2023 05:57

Report to the police asap, if they have camera footage of the changing rooms how can he not be shown on there? And why are the gym covering it up?

Id also post it on social media but not until after the police have investigated.

savoycabbage · 07/11/2023 06:31

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 07/11/2023 02:05

Personally I wouldn't worry too much about being flashed, but the fact that he entered the women's changing rooms is another level. Yes, report it to the police, it seems the gym don't actually care.

And no, their response is not good enough.

I thought this until it happened to me and I was rooted to the spot. I thought he was going to rape me. My baby was in her cot. The person who flashed me was a delivery driver from Currys.

DominiqueBernard · 07/11/2023 06:34

Report it to the police.

Perhaps you could also contact the council about the gym's apparent unwillingness to fulfil its duty of care to users.

MeridianB · 07/11/2023 06:35

Please go to the police.

I totally agree with others about flashing being far from benign. Wayne Couzens was flashing some time before he escalated his offences.

Also, David Lloyd have been named on previous threads as showing blatant disregard for female members. Shame on them.

Viviennemary · 07/11/2023 06:36

Report it to the police. This is how these rapists and murderers start out. That met policeman Wayne Cousins had flashed at somebody. It was reported to the police but not followed up.

ilovelamp82 · 07/11/2023 06:38

Definitely call the police. Similar happened to my sister years ago and they told her it was the right thing to do as this is often the first thing that people who go on to commit rapes and paedophilia will do. The more the police have on record about these people the more you may help the next person that encounters him. They're hoping for your silence, they're building up bravery for their next act. Sorry you had to go through that.

lap90 · 07/11/2023 06:40

Yajebbend · 07/11/2023 05:47

It’s a David Lloyd gym

Contact Head Office.

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