Just fucking sick of dogs

[crazyaginglady]

Sorry but I am. I was cycling home from
picking up DS from school with him on the back and a dog came running up beside
me snarling and snapping at my feet on the pedals. I nearly bloody went over but managed to keep my balance and get past it (electric bike). Owner called an apology and I just rode on as it was still off the lead and I was worried for DS.

This is a national cycling path and much used school route so there are always bikes and children 8-9 and 3-4.

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.

And don’t get me started in the ‘oh he’s just being friendly’. I don’t want your fucking dog jumping on me or my children or scaring my kids when we are just going about our day.

They should ALL be on leads unless they are in a dog park/field.

Yeah, there are too many dogs nowadays. I counted 9 today when I went into an average sized Starbucks to grab a drink. What does a dog gain from being sat in Starbucks surrounded by people they don't know and other dogs. It's just unnecessary. Dog owners shouldn't inflict their choice to have a dog on other people.

Google says dogs are not allowed in Starbucks.

I've never seen dogs in Starbucks before either, but there were a lot of dogs in the Starbucks in Whiteley in Hampshire today. But thank you for looking that up I might tweet them, it was like a doggy daycare.

It appears to be a rogue one which allows dogs.https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g503847-d8284956-r739681335-Starbucks-Whiteley_Fareham_Hampshire_England.html

Who is doing all this dachshund espionage at the Telegraph?! Sounds truly riveting. Guess their political landscape is a bit bleak at the moment so they have to distract themselves with something.

Launching a hyperbolic thread "Just f***g sick of dogs" and repeatedly reinforcing some irrational hatred of them is much more unsettling to me than any 'rampant' sausage dog. TBH I'm struggling to shake a mental picture of the Toto-hating witch on a (n electric) bike in the Wizard Of Oz.

And FWIW I have a dog who would never bite or snap, has excellent recall and still I keep her on a lead. So I'm not some liberty for dogs advocate, just think this blanket hatred of all things canine is really extreme.

That's frightening, given the unpredictable nature of so many bull breeds. What an irresponsible and downright dangerous owner to allow the dog the opportunity to even get near a pram! I don't have children, but that would frighten the hell out of me.

Or could there be another reason with your attitude?

For me it's cats, cat poo is everywhere on my estate. They are breeding like wildfire.

I'm sick of kids harassing my dog, got a rescue puppy recently and two kids chased him down the length of my local park whilst the mother looked on yelling at me that my dog was "loving it" as he was wagging his tail. He was massively scared and irate and I had warned her I did not think he was yet socialised around kids and to keep them away

This dog really should have been on a lead. Especially in a public park, when it is not socialised around children.

I can’t believe this has come up in AIBU again, it’s been done to death on here

It's because dogs continue to be a massive nuisance in public. When that stops, the complaints will stop.

I totally agree, a few weeks ago I fell over.
A dog on an extendable lead ran past the end of a path I was walking out of, the owner didn't even apologise.
I hate dogs jumping up, licking and sniffing me- why do people think this is OK????

I totally agree OP. I ride through a section of country park on my way to work. It is clearly marked up as a dog on lead area. I've had so many incidents now with dogs not on leads that I actually thank any owner who is using a lead.

Most recent event, up ahead there was a dog running free, it nearly went under my wheel. I politely suggested to the owner that his dog would be safer on a lead. He said it was my fault, I should have rung my bell to say I was coming! Then he would have called his dog back. I pointed out that it was a dog on lead area, he congratulated me for being able to read. It escalated from there and he was still swearing at me when I went out of hearing range.

Another time a dog jumped up at a cyclist ahead and nearly knocked them off of their bike. I waited back for the owner to get their dog under control. The owner kept telling me just to come forward the dog was fine. I pointed out it had nearly knocked the previous cyclist off their bike, it was not fine. Eventually after some persuading they held their dog. Again this was in a dog on lead area. Shortly afterwards I passed an owner who was holding their dog on stood on the grass to leave the path clear for me to pass. I stopped and thanked her for being a considerate dog owner and controlling their dog. This was the start of me thanking responsible dog owners.

The thing is a dog running free is unpredictable. I don't want to hurt a dog by running into it or running over it. Surely the owner doesn't want that to happen either? Equally it doesn't take much to knock a cyclist off. I don't want to go over my handle bars or fall off. You can get nasty injuries too. There are plenty of areas that you can take your dog off the lead. In fact where I cycle there is an area very close by, so why not use those, it's safer for the dog. A dog being hit by a bike could potentially cost the dog owner a lot of money in vets fees, so why do they do it?

It’s when people compare them to human children, my eyes can’t roll enough. Ridiculous.

YABU however I do keep mine on a lead as they have no recall if something more interesting is happening. However I know of lots of dogs who walk off lead with absolutely no interest in other people or dogs. I think it’s more a case of people being fully away of how well trained their dog is and what their personality type is rather than a blanket thing.

I also agree with others on here that it’s about personal choice as I would much prefer a dog coming to me to say hello, than someone else’s child. It doesn’t matter how cute or well behaved they are in your mind, I don’t want them near me.

I also agree with others on here that it’s about personal choice as I would much prefer a dog coming to me to say hello, than someone else’s child

I'd also prefer neither, but at least I know a child's not going to nip my ankles as has happened to me in the past.

Until my husband diverted it with his foot.

I’ve never seen a dog in Starbucks. We have a Starbucks right next to the vets so if they were allowed surely they would be in that one, but no, never seen one in there ever.

the crux of this argument is that if you get a dog you should train it so it is not a bother to others. If that can’t be done you should keep in on a lead in public.

people who don’t like dog need to realise that your fear and dislike is just that YOURs and it’s not the responsibility of dog owners to pander to your whims so long as they’re keeping their end of the deal and controlling their dog.

people and dogs should be able to go exist peacefully. Some owners are crappy and some people who dislike dogs massively over react making situations far more dramatic than they needed to be. Owners should keep their dogs away from kids and parents should keep their kids away from dogs. It’s not that hard.

Just too many dogs since Covid. And people think they’re entitled to take them everywhere. I walk to work to work and my kids cycle to school and we’ve both had issues with snappy dogs who are apparently just “being protective” of their owner. It’s so annoying when you’re told this smugly by clueless irresponsible owners.

It is so bizarre that you cannot appreciate that a child does not have the potential to harm you, but a dog does.

@XenoBitch also pretty sure anyone can outrun/outsmart a toddler easily to avoid...not the case with a dog.

Quite. And children will grow up to be adults and do actually need to spend time in public you know to learn how to be in public and social situations. It's essential that children are part of these areas of life as how else will they learn.

Dogs can stay home , they don't need to be taken everywhere and they don't need to be in cafes, etc

it true kids do need to be out in public. But people also need to realise that not everyone finds your kids cute and funny. Out for dinner a few weeks ago. 2 families out together with 4 kids and a baby between them. No awareness of how their kids behaviour was affecting others. Kids running around screaming, dragging cushions onto the floor to make a giant pile in the middle of a walk way where they all sat being loud and annoying. Tripping up passing waiting staff on more than one occasions. Nice middle class looking parents just smiled on indulgently as their kids were an absolute nuisance.

on the flip side the couple of dogs in the pub (country put which welcomes dogs) sat under tables behaving themselves and causing no issues at all. I did not witness any bad behaviour from them. Just these irritating kids and their brain dead parents thinking their behaviour was cute. You could see the staff getting annoyed.

but just like with dog owners there decent ones who are aware how their kids behaviour affects others. Another family with similar aged kids ensured their kids behaved appropriately for that setting. So just because some parents are stupid and inconsiderate, doesn’t mean all parents are and kids should be banned from everywhere. Exactly like dog owners. Decent owners shouldn’t be punished or held in contempt just because people have algae a bad experience with poorly trained dogs with idiot owners.

Do you have a problem with people making their views known. Because you don't have to read them.

Who was that directed at?

all you dog lovers…
can anyone answer…
why your precious dog can’t be left at home rather than go to a cafe or pub with you?