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Just fucking sick of dogs

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crazyaginglady · 03/11/2023 19:00

Sorry but I am. I was cycling home from
picking up DS from school with him on the back and a dog came running up beside
me snarling and snapping at my feet on the pedals. I nearly bloody went over but managed to keep my balance and get past it (electric bike). Owner called an apology and I just rode on as it was still off the lead and I was worried for DS.

This is a national cycling path and much used school route so there are always bikes and children 8-9 and 3-4.

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.

And don’t get me started in the ‘oh he’s just being friendly’. I don’t want your fucking dog jumping on me or my children or scaring my kids when we are just going about our day.

They should ALL be on leads unless they are in a dog park/field.

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Lattims83 · 04/11/2023 22:09

You're sick of shitty people who don't know how to take care of dogs, you can't be mad at dogs for being dogs. Plenty of people are fucking sick of shitty children running around being cunts, but is the kids or their useless parents not knowing how to parent?

Timebomb1 · 04/11/2023 22:20

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.😋🤣🤣🤣 ... Definitely a dangerous breed of dog

DysonSphere · 04/11/2023 22:23

Storminagoldfishbowl · 04/11/2023 22:07

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.

@crazyaginglady this is just ridiculous. Sausage dogs are tiny. Sounds like you are projecting your 'dog phobia' on to your two year old. My two year olds would have been delighted if a tiny dog had coming running towards them. Get over yourself.

Edited

From the Telegraph:

They may be small, but new research found that one in five dachshunds have bitten or tried to bite strangers, and a similar number have attacked other dogs; one in 12 have snapped at their owners

As I'm sure you know, they're bred to be small not for cuteness purposes, but to go into tight spaces and catch small rodents and badgers. As such they can bite and toddlers aren't known for subtle movement.

The irony is if the poster didn't snatch her child up and the dog had nipped her child you would have likely said that she should have removed her child from possible contact.

babybeets · 04/11/2023 22:27

YANBU. I am a dog owner and still completely fed up with people not respecting other people’s spaces. Mine is quite a big dog and despite being a real softie is still quite a scary looking beast. People allow their daft (lovely awww) dogs run up to love him … ffs that would scare me and he responds as I would with a dog equivalent of a punch on the nose. What is it with these people and their lovely (awww bless) fucking mutts! Dogs are lovely and safe/friendly only in the eyes of their owners. Should always be on leads in public spaces!!!

XenoBitch · 04/11/2023 22:34

DysonSphere · 04/11/2023 21:52

Where I live there are several parks within walking distance. All but one have cafes. All of those allow dogs.

Now I'm not too bothered by dogs in cafes really, I don't tend to sit close enough or long enough for my allergies to kick in. In fact I do find the children more anxiety provoking if I have hot condiments in my hands, but essentially I have no ability to go for a stroll to the local park and have a coffee or a breakfast or lunch without the presence of dogs.

So those are the cafes inside the parks.

Now around the parks and into town are quite a few more cafes, and all of those allow dogs too.

So you're inundated with dogs on the street, in the park, in the park cafes, in the cafes in the town, and quite often in the local shops and pubs too. This leaves you with places like McDonald's where you can perhaps grab a coffee without dog exposure.

Are there no Costas cafes where you live? They don't allow dogs. I saw a lady asked to leave when she took her rabbit in one too (it was in a carry crate thing).

Hmrk · 04/11/2023 22:35

Yes I agree! an XL bully not on it’s lead decided to come straight up to me and my daughter, putting its head in the pram and sniffing around us. The owner didn’t even tell it to leave us alone until I said something, I was very scared.

Ramalangadingdong · 04/11/2023 22:36

Storminagoldfishbowl · 04/11/2023 22:07

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.

@crazyaginglady this is just ridiculous. Sausage dogs are tiny. Sounds like you are projecting your 'dog phobia' on to your two year old. My two year olds would have been delighted if a tiny dog had coming running towards them. Get over yourself.

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A two year old is also tiny.

Mothership4two · 04/11/2023 22:38

grottyb · 03/11/2023 19:50

Basically there are a lot of shit dog owners but obviously a lot don’t realise they are shit & a lot know they are shit but don’t want to acknowledge it so these threads always go the same way.

And there are a lot of responsible dog owners too - who find threads where thery seem to be being lumped in with the irresponsible ones annoying and unfair and they dislike the untrue implications that they are not doing the right thing (when actually they are).

I think OP being attacked and having to pick up a dog to stop it approaching her child is dreadful. But we clean up after our dog, she is off lead only in dog walking areas, she has good recall, we have trained her not to approach people and/or dogs (especially dogs on leads) and we never let her bark continuously in the garden.

These threads always go the same way and turn into an endless bun fight!

Ramalangadingdong · 04/11/2023 22:41

trythisforsize · 04/11/2023 21:34

Real animal lovers don't have pets.

I so agree with this and have never heard anybody else say it even though it is so obvious.

AnnieSnap · 04/11/2023 22:44

Diggetydawg · 03/11/2023 19:03

I love dogs and have one but I agree, they should be on leads in public spaces. I wouldn't dream of letting mine off lead in a park and he's very sweet and loving.

DH and I have 3 dogs, 2 little toy poodles and a large Gundog. We let off in public spaces (parks, beaches etc). However, they are well trained and do not chase cyclists. If they did, we would put them on their leads if we saw one coming. I am observant when walking them, so I can anticipate any potential issue. We also pick-up after our dogs and put them/keep them on a lead if we are near children, or see any coming in our direction.

Its perfectly fine for well trained, well supervised dogs to be off lead in public spaces.

Eve223 · 04/11/2023 22:44

At this rate all dogs will be banned in England. Even the most docile, well trained and behaved Labradors.

YesSirMam · 04/11/2023 22:49

I remember a thread years ago about someone’s friend refusing to remove her large breed dog around the Ops newborn baby. 75% of the thread branded Op ridiculous. Funny how things change.

agree Op! ALL dogs should be on leads. For the PP who said their 2yr old would be delighted to have a small dog run towards them. My 2yr old would be terrified. I almost lost an eye being bitten by a small dog.

Fluff3 · 04/11/2023 22:55

Neriah · 03/11/2023 19:50

And I'm fucking fed up of cyclists on the pavement, flying around the local park at high speed (limit 5mph clearly displayed), going through red lights, etc etc. But fortunately I don't think every cyclist is a complete pillock. Just a lot of them.

Couldnt agree with you more. How many children have these menaces knocked down ?

AmazingSnakeHead · 04/11/2023 22:55

I agree OP, I fucking hate dogs and useless owners. I've had most of the things on this thread happen to me. Dogs jumping up at me and getting me muddy, dogs charging at my little children, dogs jumping up and snapping at me while carrying a baby, dogs pissing on my baby's pram. I had a dog jump up at me and put paws on my stomach when I was heavily pregnant, dog came out of no where and I couldn't react in time. Horrible paws right where my precious baby's head was, stupid owner didn't even apologize.

"Oh he's friendly! Don't worry she loves children! He's a big softie really! He's just saying hello!" I give zero fucks I don't want to say hello, I don't want to be it's friend, get this animal away from me. And before you all start I don't let my child and go and put his hands on people.

Nopenotrightnow · 04/11/2023 23:00

I used to walk my dog in a park with on-lead and off-lead areas and no cycle paths. I stuck to the rules, but I was hit by a cyclist who saw no reason to "announce" their presence behind me and I stepped into their path. In a separate incident my dog got caught up in a group of cyclists, again an off lead area, no cycle or walking path but they assumed right of way. Both incidents reported to park and police.

It's not just dogs and their keepers. It's people having no respect for other people.

eastegg · 04/11/2023 23:28

‘It’s not just..’ isn’t really relevant to the OP though is it? I mean I’m sure the OP doesn’t think the only problem around humans’ interaction with each other is dog ownership. Sure, some cyclists are dicks, but I’m struggling to see the relevance.

Pokinganose · 04/11/2023 23:44

Totally agree. Doesn't matter whether someone's dog is friendly or not. Some people don't like dogs. Some people with their dogs on leads don't want other dogs coming up to their dogs esp if their own dog is nervous etc. Not all dogs have a good recall response.
I love dogs. I don't love the way some dog owners have little control over their pets or can't be bothered to keep them on a lead.

SmokeyToo · 04/11/2023 23:59

I'm a massive animal lover, all animals. First and foremost, cats. But I absolutely adored my dog, whom I lost last year when he was fourteen. Miss him every day and would love to have him with me again.

However, I put a lot of effort into training him when he was a pup. Both me and the dog absolutely loved our training sessions! Dogs are born to please their owners and if done properly, they get so much mental stimulation from training. My dog was trained to hand signals and could reliably be walked off lead along a very busy road. But did I walk him off lead? NO! Because I would never forgive myself if my training failed and he ran into traffic.

He absolutely LOVED people. He was ambivalent about other dogs, due to being attacked twice at a dog park when he was just a littlie. He was never aggressive towards other dogs, just nervous when they came to "say hello". I used to hate it when off lead dogs would come barreling up to him, their owners giving the usual "Don't worry, he's friendly!" cry. Yes, your dog might be friendly, but my dog might lash out at your dog because he's scared and then it would all be MY fault.

I don't think any owner should ever fully trust their dog. I certainly never did. Dogs are animals and they will defend and protect themselves if they feel they are under attack. And never, ever trust a dog around children! Kids have a habit of getting in your face, staring directly into your eyes, not picking up on warning signs, etc. These behaviours are all triggers to dogs - staring directly into a dog's eyes and forcing them to stare back is a direct challenge and the dog will respond accordingly if it feels threatened.

Learning about animal behaviour is a passion of mine and it should be for all animal owners. How else are you going to learn what your pet's behaviour means? How else are you going to learn whether it's your own behaviour that's creating bad behaviour in your pet? I honestly believe that pet ownership should only be available to those who have gone through some mandatory education and have been proven to be able to provide for all their pet's needs, both financially and emotionally. There are far too many mistreated animals in this world, far too many dumped and forgotten animals - it breaks my heart and it's got to stop.

Lastly, the anthromorphism of pets also has to stop. They are animals, first and formost and you cannot attribute human characteristics to them. It is detrimental to an animal to expect human behaviour from them. Please don't dress them up (unless it's a coat for warmth), take them to human venues and expect them to behave like humans. They can't. They're animals. They are totally dependent on us for their needs and for us to expect behaviour from them that isn't within their capabilities is nothing short of cruel.

I guess the TL;DR version of this is you, the owner, are the one who's entirely responsible for your pet's behaviour and wellbeing. Pet ownership is a privilege and is for the life of the pet. If you can't commit to doing the right thing by your pet ALWAYS, please don't have one.

SuperBored · 05/11/2023 00:03

Lattims83 · 04/11/2023 22:09

You're sick of shitty people who don't know how to take care of dogs, you can't be mad at dogs for being dogs. Plenty of people are fucking sick of shitty children running around being cunts, but is the kids or their useless parents not knowing how to parent?

Oh here we go again, numpties that think dogs are the equivalent of children...last time a child ripped an adult apart and killed them was.....????

threecupsofteaminimum · 05/11/2023 00:17

Yep, they're a pain in the fucking arse. Someone's stupid bloody mutt ran between my legs as I was on the way to collect DS from school and I accidentally kicked it, it scared me to death, it was on a really long lead as as I was staring ahead on a slight upward path it wasn't in my line of sight or periphery, it came from nowhere.

I swore in fright. Owner just looked at me.

DM hasn't visited us in years as she can't leave her precious dogs. She's visited us once in 5 years.

XenoBitch · 05/11/2023 00:22

SuperBored · 05/11/2023 00:03

Oh here we go again, numpties that think dogs are the equivalent of children...last time a child ripped an adult apart and killed them was.....????

No, it is comparing dogs being cunts with kids being cunts. Both are down to the owners/parents.

And according to the dog haters on MN, a dog is a cunt for having the audacity to exist in front of them... even if it is well behaved.

Stressedafff · 05/11/2023 00:36

Why is it always a case of comparing dogs and kids?

XenoBitch · 05/11/2023 00:40

Stressedafff · 05/11/2023 00:36

Why is it always a case of comparing dogs and kids?

Because some people say that a dog approaching them is a menace, or a dog running toward them is a pain in the ass.
Kids do that too.

For me, an over excited puppy leaping up at me actually makes me smile. But a kid doing the same... just no.

foxlover47 · 05/11/2023 01:02

@XenoBitch I never really knew there was such a hatred for dogs until
I joined Mumsnet
And spot on ! Parents
/ owners at fault

SylvieB74 · 05/11/2023 01:17

You’re right. I’ve sort of wanted one for years but know I wouldn’t have the patience for the reality of actually having one all the time. Without giving it a lot of thought I’ve had a neighbours bully thing run straight into my house bounding about like a maniac and scratched my sons leg, it’s not even fully grown. When he was a baby ending up with shit all over his pushchair wheels a few times. Twice people letting them get near enough to stick their head right in his pushchair, he sort of kicked out with his little legs ant one of them and the owner pulled her poor giant German shepherd away tutting at me?! Also a neighbour of my mums had a dog running about all over the road, it was growling and trying to get around me to my daughter, I actually booted that one and it ran off whining, then the usual ‘oh he won’t do anything’ 😬

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