To be envious that Victoria Coren Mitchell has a second baby at 51

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https://www.ok.co.uk/tv/breaking-victoria-coren-mitchell-baby-31338022.amp

Just that, really. I’m sure there will be a lot of posts on here about it’s too old and she should have done it sooner, but given that she didn’t, I am envious that she has the money and the luck and the situation to be able to do it now.

Can you imagine how different women’s lives would be if we just didn’t have to worry so much about the end of our fertility?

I’m 52. I can’t imagine having a baby now as in peri menopause/menopause.

I suppose it’s the last gasp age but as a pp said she’ll be almost 70 when they’ll be 18 which doesn’t sit right with me.

Yes she does have money tho she used to talk about adopting.well women should stop.looking for the stereotypical relationship and do it alone earlier
Or stop worrying about their fertility and start thinking about adopting..which is not an easy.process but will be helping existing children on this wretched planet.Mitchell already had a bio child.She could have done that and shared her wealth.this obsession.with bio children is apparently natural but also at times IMHO selfish.But know ill be shouted down.the egg will not have been hers so only Mitchell will be the bio father.She is simply the incubator and will have to have taken nasty drugs to do this
Shed had the pregnancy experienc3 so why not do something different? Oh no
Humans must have what they want.

Outliers, surely? Never ever heard of a woman outside of celebs have a baby past 50.

Again no moral judgement as regards whether those celebs should.

On balance, I'd say it's very very rare for a woman to get pregnant naturally past 50.

Those that do must surely be outliers.

Incubator? She is the mother. Did you have children?

I actually had two friends at university who were born when their mothers were late forties/fifty when they were born in the 1960s . They were both noticeably close to their parents who had had more time to spend with them as children they were already established financially and in their careers/ retired . Yes they lost their parents slightly earlier than most of their contemporaries, but there were plenty with younger parents who lost a parent earlier or at the same time. Another thing which is not a plus but just a fact; both inherited at relatively young age and were able to have choices that we were not . I am sure they would rather have had their parents for longer but in turn they have passed that financial advantage on to their own children.

the egg will not have been hers

You do not know this - this could very easily be the natural child of both Victoria and her husband.

For all we know, this couple have been hoping for a second child since the first was born, and it just never happened. They may have accepted that they would only have a single child, and then been thrilled to find that Victoria has become pregnant.

And frankly, I think that your assumption that "the egg will not have been hers" is ridiculous - you may be right, but in that case both for her own health and to increase chances of a pregnancy going full term, the couple would probably have employed a surrogate - not just "bought an egg".

Whatever it is, it is their business and no-one else's.

(Also, adoption isn't just like picking a kitten from a litter. Most children in care, even many of those who have been fostered from birth, have massive mental health problems. I have nothing but admiration for people who adopt, but they often take on a lot of very hard work, and the older the child, the more difficult it usually is - those early weeks and months and years shape the child's psyche. And there are very few babies available for adoption - most are toddlers at least. Plus, you don't just walk in and say "I'll have that one." There is (rightly) a very stringent process to go through.)

First off - Congratulations to Victoria and David.

I became a dad at 38 and sometimes wished I had been younger. But I was too immature in my 20s , early 30s. It worked out OK really. Whereas being 69 or 70 when they are heading into the difficult- and skint - college years would be a bit scarey.

I’m very happy for the Mitchells.

However being very pregnant and having a toddler in my late 20s I can’t think of anything worse than doing this at 51. Unless it meant I could afford a night nanny. I genuinely think the lack of sleep would kill me.

No, I'm 50 and dd is an adult now. I did really want a second child when she was younger, but it didn't happen. There is no way I would want to start all over again now.

She will be 69 when the child reaches adulthood. I wouldn't choose that, personally, but I wish them well.

People talking about how hellish this would be are missing the point completely: these people are wealthy. Having a baby is a very different experience when you can afford someone to clean your home, nanny your kids, watch them overnight so you can sleep, etc. so many of the difficulties that come with having a baby are erased or made significantly easier.

I can't get worked up about the age thing, anything can happen at any age. Better a child be born to two loving parents that wanted them dearly later in life than to someone who's a few decades younger but not ready/can't provide/doesn't want the child etc.

This happens regardless. I have young kids and am now the sole carer of a nonagenarian grandparent due to her only child's (my mother's) premature death.

this was a failed reply to a post about her child caring for her in old age when having young kids themselves

My son will be 21 by then. No chance.

I'm not envious at all. By the time I'm 51 my children will all be grown up and I'll be using my energy and money to please myself!

I think the list sirirising thing about this thread is that VCM is only 51, a year younger than me. I would have put her considerably younger

Good luck to her and David.
Teens in my 50s is ok. Not sure how I'd feel in my 60s, but that’s not my descision.

(I’m sure she was pg 2 or 3 years ago).

The CM do not live a celeb life , they live close to someone I know. I am not sure they even had a nanny, they are often seen out and about with their daughter and are famously rather reclusive. VCM has spoken eloquently about her post natal anxiety, I think at one time she struggled to leave the house. I wish them every happiness, I am sure their children will be well cared for and loved and cherished , there are far worse things that can happen to a child than being born to older parents .

I'm the absolute reverse of envious, it would be my worst nightmare, but I hope it works out for them.

My father was 51 when I was born. he Is still around to help with grandchildren. I take that not everyone lives that long or ages that well, but ultimately we don’t know how long we will be around for our children. I know many people whose young parents died before they reach adulthood.

Mad and selfish. Poor DC when it's in its 20s.

Law of averages and that doesn't happen. Having a baby at 51 is risking being frail or dying when dc is still quite young.

I very much doubt they will be poor and they won’t be alone they already have a 7 year old and an extended family .

As a 46 year old with three children, another baby at 51 sounds horrific!

Rewind 15 years. I was a 31 year old with zero chance of conceiving naturally and no guarantee or ever having children. I was the most broken I have ever been. I would have gone to any lengths to have my family and couldn't begin to imagine life without them. If I was still making that dream a reality now or at 51, then so be it.

Life is uncertain and there are awful and selfish parents of all ages so her age isn't an issue as far as I'm concerned.

Will post what I put on other thread here:

I think those sniping know deep down that VCM will have access to the best support and care and has a better chance of a healthy, long old age than most of them.

They also know her kids will have access to better opportunities than 99% of our kids.

I think this bothers them a bit hence the attempts to piss on her chips. Whether individual posters couldn’t handle a baby at that age in their circumstances, is irrelevant to VCMs situation which will be vastly more privileged and comfortable than their own.

Whilst money certainly helps, I can't imagine that carrying a baby/getting pregnant was an easy thing. Money does not solve the worry/difficulty. They both seen sensitive people who would have considered every angle.
You never know what life will being. I hope it brings happiness to their family.

I’m 51, with teenagers and my parents are early 70s. I’m in the throes of peri menopause, GCSEs and A levels and dealing with narcissistic parents who like to play the “we cared for you do now you care for us card.”

My life is an utter nightmare. My parents were early 20s when they had me. I was in my 30s when I had mine. I pray to god my kids are in their 40s if they even bother to have kids. Live their lives before it’s sucked away from them.

For certain I do not expect or want my children feeling responsible for me. I make this clear to them, using my parents as the example. I reckon I have 20+ years still of my parents treating me like an on call servant.

Age doesn’t make a parent a good one.

Ideally you'd be done younger. I'm approaching 50 with a 20 year old who needs my support still. Not sure it would be so easy at 70.

But yes I'm happy for her and a tiny bit jealous. It's the aspect of kids looking for uni when I'm 70 for me that means ideally, I'd be a bit younger, but for some, it doesn't work out. If she was child free by choice until 50 then that's another matter. Choosing to delay until your over 40 is risky