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Tradesman Asked Me Out

528 replies

Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 14:52

I bought my first home recently and hired a company to complete part of the work I couldn't do myself. Met the sales manager very briefly twice to select the product.

He asked for my spare keys on the Friday so they could start early on Monday while I was at work. OK - gave them. Once he called to say the work was complete mid-day on Tuesday, I asked him to put the keys through my letter box before they left.

Instead he said he 'didn't know where he'd be that day' and asked to go to my work. I didn't respond. The next day he put the keys through my door. I made the full payment remotely and confirmed with a screenshot.

On Thursday morning, I received the following text out of the blue. I honestly found it shocking since I'd shown zero romantic interest in him, we'd only discussed the work and he appeared to be significantly older. Also pretty creepy that he had my keys and had hung onto them so he'd have an excuse to see me again.

I just didn't respond, blocked the number and changed my privacy settings. I've decided to do the other work in the house myself.

YABU - It's fine for men to ask you out once the job is complete
YANBU - It's creepy because he had your keys for days, knows where you live and lacks boundaries.

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adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:41

Differentstarts · 29/10/2023 17:36

Or maybe he wanted to make a copy.
I think I watch to many serial killer documentarys

I think so - if he wanted to make a copy he could have done it any time since the keys came into his possession!

TomatoSandwiches · 29/10/2023 17:41

I've renovated multiple house and 90% of tradeworkers have always posted the keys back through the door.

If I've collected keys in person it was because we mutually agreed before works started that payment would be completed upon a final viewing of works done or I was literally there doing other works myself when they've finished.

PoachedEggSandwich · 29/10/2023 17:41

Gardeningtime · 29/10/2023 17:20

This is all getting a bit hysterical I cannot believe what’s being posted. The man asked her for a coffee and people are suggesting he’s copied her keys and is a rapist.

😱

Typical mumsnet

Differentstarts · 29/10/2023 17:42

Anybody else brain right now thinking he made a copy of her key and has put hidden cameras in her home and he's carrying a pair of her underwear around in his pocket or is my brain broken. Sorry op I'm really not helping

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:42

Caerulea · 29/10/2023 17:14

How the everloving fuck is the vote split?!

YANBU, not even a little bit.

Because she is being unspeakably unreasonable, of course!!

Dweetfidilove · 29/10/2023 17:42

I’m really at a loss as to what he’s done that is wrong/creepy/boundary pushing etc.

He completed the work so he’s not mixing business with pleasure, then asked OP for a coffee because he liked her.

She just needs to say ‘no thank you’ and keep it moving.

Bar online dating, how do people meet if no one approaches anyone?

Differentstarts · 29/10/2023 17:43

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:41

I think so - if he wanted to make a copy he could have done it any time since the keys came into his possession!

I think so to 🤣🤣

DixonD · 29/10/2023 17:43

FinallyPregnant23 · 29/10/2023 16:46

Also DH is a tradesman who has others working for him and I asked him what he thought, he agreed that it would be completely inappropriate and if one of his staff did it they would be put on a disciplinary or let go.

For god’s sake OP don’t let this guy lose his job over this.

The amount of irrational thinking on this thread is insane.

BenjaminDisraeli · 29/10/2023 17:44

Don't care if this sounds like an overreaction, if it were me I'd see a number of red flags here and I'd do exactly what you did OP.

The fact that he had your keys for a few days. (I'd change the locks.)
The fact that his message references your parents. (Innocent, but talking about 'your mum and dad' is a degree of familiarity that you haven't invited. Also an excuse for further communication.)
The fact he wanted needed to know where you work.
The compliments. Sorry if this ruffles the romantically inclined, but my instinct is that men tend not to give compliments at this early stage - ie without really knowing you - without an ulterior motive.
The fact that you live alone, full stop.

I think upthread you mentioned you have experience of a controlling relationship,and you've learnt from this. Well done for going with your instincts.

Dweetfidilove · 29/10/2023 17:45

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:41

I think so - if he wanted to make a copy he could have done it any time since the keys came into his possession!

That’s what I’m thinking.

If he has sinister intentions he’s unlikely to draw attention to them. He’d know he has access whenever .

Gillbil · 29/10/2023 17:46

He's a creep! Please say you're changing your locks, it's not worth the uncertainty not doing so.
Sorry you've had to deal with this.

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:46

Growlybear83 · 29/10/2023 17:28

I think you're really over reacting and don't see what the poor man did wrong. Or is the issue really that you think a 'tradesman', as you describe him, is a bit beneath you?

I think you might have hit the nail on the head, that and because she's deemed him to be old!

Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 17:47

TomatoSandwiches · 29/10/2023 17:41

I've renovated multiple house and 90% of tradeworkers have always posted the keys back through the door.

If I've collected keys in person it was because we mutually agreed before works started that payment would be completed upon a final viewing of works done or I was literally there doing other works myself when they've finished.

I repeated the request by text. I think the lack of response made it obvious I didn't want to say where I worked or meet again.

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TeaGinandFags · 29/10/2023 17:48

I take it you know how to change your locks?

Do it.

Just in case. This guy has no boundaries. Asking a lady out is one thing. Keeping her keys for longer than is necessary, quite another.

limitedperiodonly · 29/10/2023 17:48

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 15:37

Well I hope you're pleased to have lost someone their livelihood.

Yes, he shouldn't have done it, but most of us would just have said no and let it go.

You're lucky you got no come-back on it, which could very well have happened.

Spare me this bollocks about losing people their livelihood. What would be the comeback?

verdantverdure · 29/10/2023 17:48

Dweetfidilove · 29/10/2023 17:42

I’m really at a loss as to what he’s done that is wrong/creepy/boundary pushing etc.

He completed the work so he’s not mixing business with pleasure, then asked OP for a coffee because he liked her.

She just needs to say ‘no thank you’ and keep it moving.

Bar online dating, how do people meet if no one approaches anyone?

She said put the keys through the door.

He didn't.

He asked for her work address completely unnecessarily.

He was seemingly happy to drive to wherever that was but couldn't put them through the door because he didn't know where he'd be.

He kept the keys for another day.

He asked her out after she stopped replying to his boundary pushing days ago.

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:48

TomatoSandwiches · 29/10/2023 17:31

It's not hysterical, it's looking at a situation and considering your own personal safety.
He kept pushing to see her and was clearly getting no postive signals back whilst he had keys to her address and still asked her out using the number he only had due to being hired in a working capacity.
Not every man is a wrong one but I look at what men do and say to make an assessment on their character to keep myself safe.
This one is entitled and pushy, not a man I would feel comfortable with tbh.

Jesus, that's a bit of a push!

Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 17:49

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:46

I think you might have hit the nail on the head, that and because she's deemed him to be old!

No, it's because I HIRED HIM TO DO A JOB.

OP posts:
adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:50

limitedperiodonly · 29/10/2023 17:48

Spare me this bollocks about losing people their livelihood. What would be the comeback?

It's far from bollocks. She came to no harm.

Well don't you think if a person caused someone to lose their job, they might be pissed off about it and pissed off with the person who caused them to lose it???! Dead obvious to me!!

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:50

Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 17:49

No, it's because I HIRED HIM TO DO A JOB.

So he can't be an actual human being then because YOU HIRED HIM TO DO A JOB.

kiddosbedtimealready · 29/10/2023 17:51

Male. Work in services. Would never do this and would probably involve HR if I found out it was going on with others. Totally inappropriate. Complain to the company. They won't approve of this conduct.

ayebutno · 29/10/2023 17:52

Aye I think you should report him . All these serial killer tradesmen eh?

verdantverdure · 29/10/2023 17:52

sparklefresh · 29/10/2023 17:40

I wonder how some
MNers think relationships start, if someone asking someone else for a coffee once, politely, is perceived is being so creepy and threatening.

What part of "put the keys through the door" and then not replying spells budding relationship to you?

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/10/2023 17:53

TomatoSandwiches · 29/10/2023 17:36

That's not up to him, op instructed him twice to put the keys through the door.

Again, he felt entitled to override the request of the op who was paying for the work done.

It's up to him to hand back the keys however he sees fit. Maybe he's been stung before?

Precipice · 29/10/2023 17:53

sparklefresh · 29/10/2023 17:40

I wonder how some
MNers think relationships start, if someone asking someone else for a coffee once, politely, is perceived is being so creepy and threatening.

In the context, it's a misuse of her personal information. He had her contact details because of the job; he shouldn't have used them to try to ask her out. In the same way, if you give your number to make a restaurant reservation, it would be inappropriate and creepy for a waiter to contact you afterwards to ask you out.

Asking someone for a coffee in itself is fine, but it depends on the situation. Would you really think it's fine for say a taxi driver to proposition a passenger in this way? It's also 'just asking someone out', but the circumstances make it inappropriate.

No wonder OP feels violated and on edge. It's disturbing to go about your life engaging in a professional dynamic with a man and then it turns out that the man is perceiving you as a sexual object and trying to 'get with you'; it makes you feel like men who are interacting with you are just treating you as a piece of meat. It's not even that they had a rapport and found they had common interests in conversation as he was going about the work, but just 'I did a job and found the lady hot, why not?'.