Need some reassurance that I'm not crazy...

[ScaredMamaLondon]

Hello,
I am a Jewish mum of two small children.
I think I'm posting on here to get a reassurance that there are some good people in this world. I am terrified to be openly Jewish in this country at the moment and I am terrified for my children's future here. This week I was told by a nanny agency 'it will be very difficult to get a nanny to work for a jewish family'. The security patrolling makes me feel nauseous; my neighbour's son attends a jewish school and was kicked on the bus for his obviously jewish school uniform. We aren't obviously Jewish 'looking' - we are not religious but yet I don't feel at all safe. The pro-Palestinian rally today threw up pictures of burning stars of davids (the antizionism isn't antisemitism thing is basically an excuse for saying what you like about jews and getting away with it). Red paint splattered over local jewish primary schools (again if it's not antisemitism, what do we have to do with it) and on top of all of this, the sinking, dismal feeling that in Israel, the only place as a Jew I would imagine feeling safe, 1300+ civilians were massacred in their beds/kidnapped/gang raped/worse.

I feel sick. I feel we are utterly hated here and unsafe there.

When I see videos of TFL tube drivers joining in with palestinian chants as if its a football anthem and flags of Jihad being waved in London I do wonder if I've missed something here. At the recent vigil for the Israeli victims people stood in silence. Singing. Crying. Praying for peace. And today I witness the complete opposite. I didn't see one mention of peace. I only saw hatred.

Half my family are NHS doctors and surgeons. Teachers. Proud of our Jewishness and proud of our Britishness. Why is it as a Jewish person in the UK i feel so utterly isolated and depressed? Many clients and non jewish friends have sent wonderful messages of support so perhaps it is just the vocal minority but it's a scary one nonetheless. AIBU in thinking that life is completely terrifying right now?

I stand with you in solidarity. There is a very real threat and it's been brewing for years.

I pray for peace and stability. And for safety amongst our Jewish friends.

I was coincidentally in London on Saturday and got caught up around the protests. Many appeared sincere in their concern for Palestinians. I also saw signs calling for ceasefire - which I think we're all hoping for. Unfortunately I also experienced a big group of motorbikers with flags, scarfs and balaclavas riding slowly past crowds, revving their loud engines aggressively and waving items in the air (couldn't make out what they were). It was genuinely scary which was obviously their intention. The crowd then started to bang with fireworks which sounds like gunfire. That's when we almost literally ran away. It was an awful atmosphere. There are lots of people using this conflict to spread hate and fear. Shame on them.

Keep your faith OP. This too shall pass. Stay safe.

Just wanted to echo that. I am horrified by the anti-semitism that is being shown. It seems to lie just below the surface for some people. Really sad that this is rearing it's ugly head (again). Sending you love and support.

I saw this and there was nothing wrong in what you said at all

You've turned up to a thread by an OP who has expressed her fears as a British Jew, and your sole reason for being on this thread from what I've seen so far is to basically support the oft-repeated claim that Jews are lying, can't be trusted and are playing the victim. Because I cannot see any other way is there to read into this. You're trolling.

Nothing wrong with coming to a thread where a Jewish person is sharing her experience of antisemitism and telling her she's determined to be the victim?

@sidesplittinglol ”I’m not against Jews but…”

You don’t accept that those killed on October 7th were innocent, do you? For shame.

Plenty of images out there that have been faked by Hamas. I’ve also seen lots of pictures of Gaza that don’t show a hugely impoverished people cowering from the Israeli aggressors. Might not fit your narrative though.

Disgusting anti semitic vile being spewed on here.
You only have to read or watch the news to know the truth. Try a reputable channel and go and take your venom somewhere it may be welcome-could I suggest Iran?

If you think the Irish anti Israeli stances and marches recognise the difference between the Israeli State and Jewish people then you are delusional. Maybe watch how the only Jewish Minister to ever serve in Ireland has been treated because he is a Jew. Our National broadcaster had no issue in broadcasting unfounded accusations that he was an appologist for mass murder and zionism and has done more to support the murder of palestine people than any other Irish person. The shocking thing is that it is so embedded in Irish thought that this was not even challenged by RTE but just accepted and broadcasted because he is Jewish. We accepted a political party saying, as fact, last week the Hamas attack was on the Israeli military. Nobody called that out apart from an opinion piece in the Irish Indrpendent last Saturday.
There is no subtly in Ireland between being Jewish and deserving of the hatred that the Irish think shoukd be directed at the Israeli State. Ireland has always been fine with directing hatred at individuals or collective groups, where they think it is justified.

There has been 7400 plus rockets fired at Israel in the last two weeks and millions more in the week, months and years before that.

If this is not just more Hamas properganda, I would say there is a really logical and simple answer. The local people have got used to the noise of rockets bombing near by. Whereas the journalists from a different area of Israel or abroad hasn't.

It is a bit like when you live near a train track. After a while you hear the noise but don't pay it much attention. Visitors however flinch every time a train goes past.

After the hospital grounds got hit in Gaza, Hama made a press stage over the area they were still suching for bodies. That was their first response, oh after blaming Israel for yet another miss fired rocket that killed their own people. Which was as normal fired from a built up area instead of one of the more isolated locations that is available to them. Look at population density maps of Gaza. These rockets launchers don't have to be in built and crowded areas.

Anyway Hamas don't give a thought for innocent Palestinians and never have. They only care about the Cause! They could have handed back all hostages and stopped firing rockets at Israel last in the first few days of Israel bombing. That would have made it hard for Israel to continue bombing. However they like as many Palestinians hurt or dead as possible. This makes western idiots blame Israel for everything.

Personally like every Jew I have ever met I want the conflict to stop and no more deaths on ever side. Yes in Israel you will see a bunch of right wing nutters that say or do awful this, however they are the same small percentage of idiots that every country owns. That isn't the same extreme Islamics whose only mission in life is genocide and who don't mind killing their own people to succeed.

True, they claim it to be one big crowded refugee camp. The reality is it has urban and some farming area, Gaza city has riding school, private schools for Hamas leaders or rich peoples children, shopping centres like you can see in Dubai etc. If anyone doesn't believe me goggle it.

Gaza is roughly the size of Venice with roughly the same size population. Unlike Venice because half the population of Gaza are children, Gaza doesn't need as many buildings. Children live at home with their relatives after all. So Gaza is in fact less cramped that Venice!

That is so sad considering that historical the Irish and Jews got the same hateful treatment in some ways. In some places of England they used to put up sighs in hotel and shop windows: No Irish and No Jews.

I don't blame your "run of the mill" jew for the behaviour of its govt, in the same way I don't blame Muslims for the behaviour of their terrorist organisations.

The attack by Hamas was deplorable, but its now being used by the Israeli govt to commit genocide. Two wrongs don't make a right.

OP, I'm so sorry. It's all an absolute mess but if it helps in any way whatsoever I am horrified and gobsmacked that antisemitism is apparent in this country, it is deplorable. I wish you and your family well and I hope for peace for you personally and well as internationally.

Is a run of the mill Jew the same thing as an innocent Jew?

I don’t think the Israeli govt are “using” the attack by Hamas to commit genocide. Hamas are holding their children hostage. I think they are responding to hideous and unbearable provocation. I do feel heartbroken for the Palestinians who are being used as “run of the mill” Muslim collateral by Iranian funded terrorists.
( “run of the mill” Jew ? Everyone is unique- no one is run of the mill - that’s why all lives matter)

Exactly. It doesn't justify genocide. It doesn't justify war crimes.

Hopefully this thread has at least demonstrated that there is real support, love and sympathy for British Jews. Sadly the thread has also demonstrated that the support is needed because the fears are justified.

IrishLondoner

True

There has been more than one Jewish politician in Ireland but are you talking about Alan Shatter? I have no idea of the news item you are speaking off and don’t know what political party you are speaking off . I absolutely agree ireland has an empathy with the Palestinian’s. I don’t agree at all that it has roots in anti semitism I think it has it’s roots our history of being occupied & in the more recent troubles.

@mollyfolk
Ah yes, "being occupied". That was the reasoning behind not supporting the Allies during WW2 too, wasn't it?

Earlier I commented on a very similar thread posted by somebody who has a Palestinian background and relatives. I say the same to you, I'm so sorry you are going through this. Be safe

Love and solidarity to you op! I look at it this this way. If anyone can say (Jew or Arab) that the killings are justified on the other side whilst making a huge fuss about deaths on their own ‘side’ then they don’t actually care about human lives at all, they just care about ‘winning’. They have lost their humanity.
And for the love of God why are people banging on about Israel to you? You are a BRITISH Jew. I think ISIS are a bunch of vile shits but I don’t go around accusing British Muslims and blaming them for what’s going on in the Middle East. If you wouldn’t do it to a Muslim then don’t do it to a Jew - that is anti semitism. Next time someone mentions Israel and its policies to you , tell them to fuck off. Don’t be an apologist to ignorant arseholes for something that has got nothing to do with you. X

I am so sorry Op. Im so sorry that you and your family, and other British Jews are going through this. I can understand why you’re terrified.

I don’t have anything brilliantly clever to say, or brilliant insight into what’s happening in the Middle East. I just wanted to send you love and support.

Do you have sympathy for the slaughtered Israeli children too or does your sympathy for slaughtered children only extend to Muslim kids? Wouldn’t a more normal response be to show concern for ALL the innocent victims of the Israel Palestine conflict?