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aibu to not breastfeed just beacuse i dont want to?

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lunalovegrooove · 21/10/2023 09:34

I understand breast is best, but I don't want to do it.
I feel pressure and the implication that I am a bad mother. I think I have the right to choose, and that the medical establishment doesn't expect something this taxing from men in society.

Am I a bad mother?

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Lavender14 · 22/10/2023 00:23

I think op, I would like to understand more about what exactly it is about the idea of breastfeeding that puts you off?

I know for me, I did want to do it but I was really worried I'd feel uncomfortable or like i was doing something weird because I didn't know anyone who breastfed in my family. My mum and sister were very keen to promote me using formula and it felt quite isolating etc. I was very worried about bf in public. I was very worried about how sore I'd heard it was. I was very worried that bf babies don't sleep (which is a myth) and I was very worried I'd be taking something away from my dh as he wouldn't be able to feed ds for the first 6 months. (Not an issue since he takes the odd bottle and I pump when I need to).

I don't think there's enough support for women who want to try bf and there are a lot of myths and misconceptions about it because the education around how to do it, and especially how to handle it when it's not going well is very, very poor. I will say it is very intense especially in the early weeks and it can initially be painful while your body gets used to it or if there's an issue like a tongue tie and it can feel like a lot of pressure so I'd say it's important to want to do it because that's kind of what sees you through the tough bits.

Ds is 10 months now and honestly even though we had a rocky start, I love feeding him, I'm really glad I gave it a go, I'm really glad I found my bf support group because they gave me so much encouragement and solid info and advice and it's been really beneficial for ds in terms of easy to do out and about, an easy way to comfort him if he's upset and while it's not a complete panacea I do feel he's pretty healthy immunity wise for it. There is a lot I didn't know setting out and I had a lot of misinformation about bf so it would be good to understand what about it makes you not want to do it, just incase you have the same misconceptions I had. Even for me seeing other women in my bf support group breastfeeding slightly older babies and breastfeeding while also holding down a job, or having other kids to think about etc made it feel so much more doable and achievable and just - normal, because I hadn't really seen that before.

Ultimately its your body and your choice what you do with it. It's not a reflection of how much you love/ care for your baby if you choose not to bf and you don't need to justify your choices as a parent to anyone since you know your body and your mental health best. But it might not be what you think and if you do feel able, maybe it's worth a try? At the end of the day you can stop at any time if you decide its not working for you. But if you really don't feel comfortable, you are allowed to say no and it doesn't make you a bad person. You shouldn't be feeling huge pressure from anyone, they should be trying to understand your perspective.

Robinni · 22/10/2023 00:34

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@Housesellingnightmare Re bottle faff, I remember we had about 6 of the mam ones all in their little bits, about 5 different components. Cluttered up the kitchen. Then you dump it all in the steriliser and then making the bottles. And just ugggh. Waiting for it to cool.

You’re not supposed to fridge them but baby was diabolically impatient so we did in the end. Figured at nearly a year old was ok.

Honestly, if you have breast fed and formula fed, bf once established is so much less hassle. All you need is yourself.

The early days are barbaric and mental, but once established bf is so nice and easy.

Rara12 · 22/10/2023 00:38

Look up the science - as in correctly conducted studies. If that's not your thing, read "Cribsheet" which summarises some major studies and analyses them.

Very few benefits clearly established scientifically, certainly not as many as internet forums would have you believe.

WHO is primarily an organisation established to assist health outcomes in developing countries. There, lack of access of clean water and quality formula means that breastmilk will often be better and safer. Doesn't apply in the same way to developed countries.

Absolutely you should do what you want anyway, but having scientifically established facts could help you explain your position (if you feel you need to) to family and husband.

Noone will know when your baby is 5yo (or insert X age here) whether it was breastfed or not. According to the best science we have at the moment, it basically won't make an iota.

PestilencialCrisis · 22/10/2023 00:40

Look around the adults in your life - can you tell who was breastfed and who had formula? Are there any obvious differences you can spot a mile away? Didn't think so.

I breastfed mine for 2+ years. People will judge you for breastfeeding just as quickly as they will judge your decision to formula feed, so screw them and do what works for you.

Robinni · 22/10/2023 00:47

Coffeerum · 21/10/2023 20:23

So you didn’t introduce any dairy or meat once baby started weaning? Otherwise your pov doesn’t have much logic behind it.

I also don’t know a single person who BFing was actually free for. Every single woman I know who breastfed bought nursing bras, at least a few nursing tanks if not new clothes that made it easier, expensive nipple creams and patches in the early days, breast pads and most still bought bottles, sterilising equipment and some form of pump even if only a let down collecting one.

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@Coffeerum

clothing - you need maternity clothing and bras anyway, you just buy the ones that are for breast feeding.

lanolin cream and the like is available on prescription - free

breast pads are cotton wool and pretty cheap

my hand pump came as a bonus with an enormous avent bottle set £60 for the lot.

medela breast pump was a present from friends upon birth of the baby.

Arguably, having to switch to formula cost more as baby refused avent and medela bottles, had to buy a tonne of mam and then pay £15 a wk for formula…. Now £19… hate inflation.

I thought the perfect prep machine looked amazing but couldn’t validate the cost when only using for a few months.

Bluelightbaby · 22/10/2023 00:50

fed is best

I bottle fed both of mine (various reasons) and they’ve never had any ill effects !

ZebraDanios · 22/10/2023 00:55

GilberMarkham · 22/10/2023 00:15

my SIL laboured for 14 hours and then needed an emergency C-Section and family made comment on how 'un-natural' it was and how she didn't 'do it properly' - as if she didn't try?!

Aren't they lucky she and the baby had modern medicine/medical intervention then, or they'd have been holding funerals for one or both of them.

Some people really are beyond dumb.

So pro "natural" birth; not realising that natural birth used to leave mothers and babies dead on a not irregular basis before skilled medical intervention.

There's a US midwife with a YouTube channel who relayed that an v old midwifery manual she saw advised (re. a non progressing birth scenario) "comfort mother until she passes". That meant passes away.

Even miscarriages had a significant risk.

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I remember arguing with a knobhead once who claimed that for thousands of years women gave birth perfectly safely because they “knew their own bodies” and it was only when men started “overmedicalising” birth that things started going wrong.

He still insisted this was the case even after I pointed out that women used to make their wills as soon as they found out they were pregnant because the risks of pregnancy and birth were so high 🙄

Robinni · 22/10/2023 00:57

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/10/2023 20:24

When you formula feed, everything is already washed and sterilised. I also used a perfect prep machine which made it even more easier.

DS never cluster fed. He was every 3 hours during the day and no night feeds after 8 weeks.

@SouthLondonMum22

Very lucky!!

My first had night feeds until about 9 months!!!

This does tie in with formula; they sleep longer and feed less due to the slowed digestion.

Cluster feeding is a natural process where the baby is stimulating increased milk supply in the mother during a growth spurt.

If your baby was hungry you’d just make a few more ounces… but that process has to be stimulated via the very intense cluster feeding for breast feeders.

As I say when it gets to 3-4months all that abates as a plentiful supply is established and growth not as rapid.

Completely agree with you that breast feeding wouldn’t have been practical in your circumstances going back to work so early.

DiscoBeat · 22/10/2023 01:39

Just do what works for you both, BF or bottle, it's totally up to you. Happy mum = happy baby.

LunaMay · 22/10/2023 05:37

Robinni · 21/10/2023 12:45

@lunalovegrooove

Breastfeeding
Baby cries, you roll over, pick up baby beside you, remain lying down and pop your tit in their mouth. Baby feeds for five mins and goes back to sleep.

Bottle feeding
Baby cries, you grown inwardly, stumble down the stairs, stick the kettle on, realise you have no clean bottles, so the next ten mins is spent cleaning/sterilising/mixing etc, by the time you get back up the stairs baby is fully awake, irate and screaming hysterically. Feed takes 20mins, lots of walking back and forth to calm them/wind them. An hour or so later the palaver is over and you go back to sleep.

My personal experience of the faff.

Well sure, but of course you had to start FF example from the worse possible scenario. FF mothers are able to be organised you know...

Pollypocket81 · 22/10/2023 07:00

Robinni · 21/10/2023 15:51

@KnittedCardi

Nobody chooses to have a c section. It is major surgery and goes ahead to ensure the safety of the baby and mother. Whether elective or emergency it is planned to diminish risk.

The choice is out of the mother’s hands.

Regards formula feeding, a small number of mothers cannot breastfeed, a slightly bigger number give up early because they think they can’t breastfeed but in actual fact the issue is inadequate support. Some have genuine mental/physical health issues that would preclude breastfeeding.

The largest group decide not to breastfeed because they want the freedom of bottle feeding and distribution of responsibility for feeding amongst their DH/other family.

That is a choice. A need for major surgery is not.

Just to point out - many women choose to have a C section without any medical need for it.
It is incredibly common in America and other countries.

RedRobyn2021 · 22/10/2023 07:18

@ginandtonicwithlimes

I actually think a mother does know better than medical advice. Doctors aren't gods, they're just people.

It's sad that so many women have such little trust in their own instinct.

Zebedee55 · 22/10/2023 07:23

lunalovegrooove · 21/10/2023 09:34

I understand breast is best, but I don't want to do it.
I feel pressure and the implication that I am a bad mother. I think I have the right to choose, and that the medical establishment doesn't expect something this taxing from men in society.

Am I a bad mother?

Both of mine were bottle fed (my choice). They're adults now, but they've always been healthy, intelligent and happy.👍

Do what makes you happy. Bonding comes with the cuddles, not what you're putting into a baby's mouth.

RedRobyn2021 · 22/10/2023 07:26

Batnm · 21/10/2023 22:06

Breast is not best, FED is best.

I have been very lucky and had an easy breastfeeding journey, it works for me. I know others who have tried it and couldn’t/didn’t continue for various reasons. As long as the baby is fed they will thrive, doesn’t matter if it’s breast or bottle.

I challenge anyone to look at a room for of children or adults and pick out the ones who were breast fed as babies. It’s impossible.

Morherhood is brilliant but hard. Happy mummy = happy baby. Babies are very intuitive, if you are anxious/upset/angry they will feel it too. If breast feeding is making you feel down then the baby will pick up on it. Please look after yourself, that’s what’s best for you and the baby.

It does matter.

I mean for gods sake look how triggered all these women are.

Say it works out fine or children thrive everyday on formula, but don't say it doesn't matter. It's ignorant.

Warum · 22/10/2023 07:35

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My BF baby slept really well too.
So, there's another one.
It's more common than you think. That said, when they're really tiny and their stomachs are really tiny too, it's normal to feed frequently.

RosesAndGin · 22/10/2023 07:40

I bottle fed both of mine just because I didn't want to breast feed.
They are both fine and I don't regret my decision.

Wi1dRo5e · 22/10/2023 07:42

RedRobyn2021

But it doesn’t matter.

Ask any mother of an 18 year old if they were ff or bf and if it mattered.

ginandtonicwithlimes · 22/10/2023 07:48

RedRobyn2021 · 22/10/2023 07:18

@ginandtonicwithlimes

I actually think a mother does know better than medical advice. Doctors aren't gods, they're just people.

It's sad that so many women have such little trust in their own instinct.

I suspect they have probably have had more experience with SID. I am not actually sure why a 11 week old needs their own room at that age. Most still fit in a moses basket at that age. I suspect it was more baby has a lovely decorated room and she wanted to use it...

Ssme92 · 22/10/2023 07:49

I bottlefed, SIL breastfed, babies are the same age. They are 1 now.
Both have hit milestones by the "expected" age
Both have picked up the same minor illnesses (D&V, rsv, colds...)
Both have ended up in hospital for their minor illnesses at one point
Both are thriving
Both are gorgeous, happy healthy babies with happy, healthy, loving parents, isn't that the most important thing?

Coffeerum · 22/10/2023 07:49

RedRobyn2021 · 22/10/2023 07:26

It does matter.

I mean for gods sake look how triggered all these women are.

Say it works out fine or children thrive everyday on formula, but don't say it doesn't matter. It's ignorant.

It’s not ignorant. It doesn’t matter.
Your child’s outcomes are not going to be an different in an individual level if you feed them formula or breastmilk.

Batnm · 22/10/2023 07:53

What happens if the baby can’t latch? Or the mother doesn’t produce enough milk? Or the baby is separated from the mother due to illness? There are many reasons someone can’t breastfeed through no fault or choice of their own. An underfed breastfed baby is far worse off than a formula fed baby who is eating well.

The overall goal is a happy health mother and baby. It doesn’t matter if that’s achieved using a bottle or breast.

Of course it’s an emotive issue, it’s very personal. But honestly, how many women have ran themselves into the ground trying to breastfeed when it’s not for them or their baby? It’s shameful that as parents (who are supposed to be nurturing and caring) would judge someone for not breastfeeding. Especially as we can all remember the initial pain of it and/or mastitis, the many night feeds etc.

Again, I challenge you to look at your friends, family and colleagues and spot the people that were breastfed. It’s impossible.

Housesellingnightmare · 22/10/2023 07:55

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Lovesocksie · 22/10/2023 07:57

To call mothers who choose not to breastfeed ‘selfish’ …

I mean considering on the whole, most mothers spend literally the rest of their LIVES putting the needs of their children first, if they’re ‘selfish’ for the first six months then they’re not doing too bad.

Housesellingnightmare · 22/10/2023 07:58

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