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aibu to not breastfeed just beacuse i dont want to?

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lunalovegrooove · 21/10/2023 09:34

I understand breast is best, but I don't want to do it.
I feel pressure and the implication that I am a bad mother. I think I have the right to choose, and that the medical establishment doesn't expect something this taxing from men in society.

Am I a bad mother?

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LylaLee · 21/10/2023 15:07

FudgeSundae · 21/10/2023 14:57

Man, some of the comments on here. I’ve read the whole thread and have this to add, because some of you are still wide eyed “I don’t understaand”:

the single biggest predictor of a baby’s socioeconomic status (which impacts lifelong health, life expectancy, education, etc.) is the mother’s socioeconomic status.

For many women, they have to go back to work. I am the breadwinner and went back to work when my first was 2 months old, and my second was 3 months old. My career and earning potential benefited hugely from this. There is no doubt we are significantly better off as a family due to this, benefitting both of my children.

I planned to bf my first for those 2 months I was at home. After 10 days I was a sobbing, shaking mess. She was born small and wanted to cluster feed round the clock. Switching to formula was the best thing we ever did.

OP, do what works for your family. And, maybe don’t read this thread…

Good for you that you're rich, but 2/3 months maternity leave is not something to boast about or to promote as an ideal.

Robinni · 21/10/2023 15:12

DiddyHeck · 21/10/2023 15:07

Thank you but there are no stats there at all and just like the PP, it's all about 'tends to be', 'might be', 'studies have found' etc.

It's all a bit vague.

@DiddyHeck That is scientific writing I’m afraid.

You will never find in a conclusion “I have definitively proven that XYZ happens”.

Instead it is, xyz results showed a significant difference and this suggests that abc.

Timeturnerplease · 21/10/2023 15:12

It seems like a massive deal in the first couple of years but honestly, after that point it’s a complete non issue. I’ve never looked at my class of 8 year olds and thought oh yeah, the parents of that one definitely didn’t bother breastfeeding.

NoKnit · 21/10/2023 15:12

Good for you making the choice you want you are already way ahead of the mothers determined to breastfeed (because sometimes doesn't work and they feel extremely bad)

Your child will benefit much more from a mother able to make decisions for herself and stick to them. That shows a great example and will be noticed in the way you are with your child.

I've breastfeed one child and bottle fed the other. They are the same and neither has had anything better you'd never tell.

DiddyHeck · 21/10/2023 15:15

Robinni · 21/10/2023 15:12

@DiddyHeck That is scientific writing I’m afraid.

You will never find in a conclusion “I have definitively proven that XYZ happens”.

Instead it is, xyz results showed a significant difference and this suggests that abc.

Yes, which is why I don't think the PP should've claimed BF babies 'tend to be better eaters'.

It's misleading and can cause unnecessary worry for some mums.

HeatherMoores · 21/10/2023 15:19

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/10/2023 14:00

HeatherMoores · Today 13:57
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Choosing not to breast feed is not prioritising the needs of your baby. It’s prioritising yours.”

Judgemental clap trap. None of your business.

No judgement at all. Just an objective statement of fact.

It’s a public discussion forum and comments were asked for.

HeatherMoores · 21/10/2023 15:21

LuckySantangelo35 · 21/10/2023 14:09

@HeatherMoores

and what’s wrong with that??

I’m not interested in whether there’s anything wrong with it or not.
I was stating a fact.

Vinrouge4 · 21/10/2023 15:34

Of course you have a choice.

WHO recommends it because it benefits baby enormously and also the mother. After carrying a baby safely for nine months why wouldn't you want the best for them?

fearfuloffluff · 21/10/2023 15:36

KnittedCardi · 21/10/2023 15:06

These threads are all the same. Let's just switch the scenario, and substitute the fact that vaginally born babies are also healthier etc than C Section babies. However, no-one would ever berate a mum for either choosing, or having to have an emergency, C Section. To me, the same compassion should be shown to all mums, whatever their choice or circumstance.

They definitely do!

HeatherMoores · 21/10/2023 15:37

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/10/2023 14:01

And a baby doesn’t need a parent whose basic needs are being met? I think they do!

I get what you’re saying but I’m not sure how ‘choosing not to breastfeed’ is classed as a basic need. (Food, water, shelter, clothing and healthcare).

There’s sometimes exceptions where a woman may have so much trauma that she’s unable to but you could argue that not breastfeeding is not a choice then. Of course some women need a lot of support to bf and there’s nothing wrong with that.

potatoheads · 21/10/2023 15:40

lunalovegrooove · 21/10/2023 09:43

also to add, the NHS seems to present it as a choice? This doesnt make sense to me. If it was the universal best, why doesnt the NHS recommend it like the WHO??

This comment suggests you don't really believe breast is best.
Breast is best. Some people can't breastfeed.
I do question having a dc though if at this very first challenge your decision is 'I don't want to'.
Parenthood is a series of things you won't want to do. What else will you not do just because you can't be arsed? We do things because we do every possible thing to give our babies the best if everything. Or at least we should.
Seems people 'don't want' to feed their dc the best but will happily buy designer gear and post on SM.
If you don't want to, go ahead. That is your right. But I will judge you. That's my right

Robinni · 21/10/2023 15:44

DiddyHeck · 21/10/2023 15:15

Yes, which is why I don't think the PP should've claimed BF babies 'tend to be better eaters'.

It's misleading and can cause unnecessary worry for some mums.

@DiddyHeck I think this is nit picking to some extent.

The paper I referenced stated “both breastfeeding and the timely introduction of complementary foods predict subsequent food acceptance.”

But equally, children will accept some sort of food and won’t starve even if FF, they just might be pickier eaters…

I don’t find anything troublesome with the word tend…. Scientific studies have to be cautious in their conclusions as science is a work in progress.

What I would do if wanting to assess the validity of a source would be to assess methodology and compare with the general consensus across the literature.

I haven’t done with this particular paper, but I would be comfortable enough to accept what’s stated as I was taught same at two Russell Group universities.

Motherhood in general is a very worrying thing. You do your best and everyone’s situation is different.

Breast feeding is a very contentious issue, as can be seen from the posts and strength of feeling.

Lizzieregina · 21/10/2023 15:45

I BFed my first and hated it. He never settled and I was always anxious and unhappy.

#2 and #3 got formula right away and were very easy babies. Into a routine right away and sleeping through the night within weeks. My mental health coped with that much better.

I think every MOTHER should make the choice they think will be best for them as they’re the ones who have to do it and deal with it.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 21/10/2023 15:46

lunalovegrooove · 21/10/2023 09:42

my husband keeps telling me how the world health organisation recommends exclusive breastfeeding for six months. If the world health organisation recommends this, then i should do it if i want whats best for my son. My mother inlaw has said the same.

I just really dont want to. Its not a comfortable experience.

The WHO actually recommends bf for 2 years and beyond. Totally your decision, though, as long as it's informed and you're happy, anyone else with an opinion can mind their business!

theotherfossilsister · 21/10/2023 15:47

potatoheads · 21/10/2023 15:40

This comment suggests you don't really believe breast is best.
Breast is best. Some people can't breastfeed.
I do question having a dc though if at this very first challenge your decision is 'I don't want to'.
Parenthood is a series of things you won't want to do. What else will you not do just because you can't be arsed? We do things because we do every possible thing to give our babies the best if everything. Or at least we should.
Seems people 'don't want' to feed their dc the best but will happily buy designer gear and post on SM.
If you don't want to, go ahead. That is your right. But I will judge you. That's my right

Breast feeding is best if all other factors remain the same. If it detracts from the mental health of the mother or if the baby is losing lots of weight, then thank goodness there's a safe alternative. If op goes against what she wants it might impact her mental health.

I combi fed for ten months, as I literally never made enough after huge blood loss (despite trying everything.) I also bottle fed ebm. Would you have judged me if you'd seen me bottle feeding my baby because 'that is your right?'

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/10/2023 15:48

I don’t think bf babies tend to be better eaters.

My Dd was bf to 3 months and then ff until the doctors recommended we introduce some solids at 4 months (she had a heart condition and needed high calorie formula, wouldn’t take a bottle at first, only breast, but then the formula made her constipated - longer much more detailed story available but boring)

She had always been a marvellous eater who likes everything (now 15)

My ds was bf til 8 months. Did baby led weaning as recommended at the time. Is the fussiest so and so on Earth.

Backagain23 · 21/10/2023 15:51

HeatherMoores · 21/10/2023 15:37

I get what you’re saying but I’m not sure how ‘choosing not to breastfeed’ is classed as a basic need. (Food, water, shelter, clothing and healthcare).

There’s sometimes exceptions where a woman may have so much trauma that she’s unable to but you could argue that not breastfeeding is not a choice then. Of course some women need a lot of support to bf and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Sleep is a basic need.
I was screaming into a pillow beside myself with exhaustion when I EBF DS3. Stuffed my face with shite as and when I could because I didn't know when my next proper meal would be permitted. Went days without a shower as being a bit whiffy was preferable to the screaming if I put him down for that long. Wasn't going anywhere anyway, had zero excess energy for baby classes etc.
Mixed feeding and sharing the load with DH was so much better with DS1.

Robinni · 21/10/2023 15:51

fearfuloffluff · 21/10/2023 15:36

They definitely do!

@KnittedCardi

Nobody chooses to have a c section. It is major surgery and goes ahead to ensure the safety of the baby and mother. Whether elective or emergency it is planned to diminish risk.

The choice is out of the mother’s hands.

Regards formula feeding, a small number of mothers cannot breastfeed, a slightly bigger number give up early because they think they can’t breastfeed but in actual fact the issue is inadequate support. Some have genuine mental/physical health issues that would preclude breastfeeding.

The largest group decide not to breastfeed because they want the freedom of bottle feeding and distribution of responsibility for feeding amongst their DH/other family.

That is a choice. A need for major surgery is not.

WorzelG · 21/10/2023 15:58

I have sensory issues so did it for 6 weeks and then actually my baby quit it, rather than other way round. Turns out they have adhd now. Inattentive…got to be connected. They just lost interest.

WillowCraft · 21/10/2023 15:58

CurlewKate · 21/10/2023 09:50

Sorry-didn't rtft.

Up to you. But imho, bf for most women is much easier and cheaper.

Disagree. FF is far easier that's why most people end up FF pretty soon. BF isn't necessarily cheap either, many bf mums spend money on pumps, bottles, sterilising equipment, bras, clothes, nipple shields, nipple cream, lactation consultants, support groups...

Robotalkingrubbish · 21/10/2023 16:03

Don’t do it if you don’t want to. However the phrase “don’t knock it until you’ve tried it” comes to mind.

I fully breastfed three, not all at the same time, because essentially I’m mean and lazy. All that faffing with sterilising bottles, making up feeds and the cost drove me to breastfeed.

potatoheads · 21/10/2023 16:09

@theotherfossilsister no I would not judge you because you have a reason beyond 'I didn't want to'. I wouldn't judge random women I see out and about bottle feeding as o have no idea why they are doing what they are going. In fact I probably wouldn't even notice them. I do judge someone I know makes choices based on their wants over what's best for their dc without any significant reason other than 'I want'. Guaranteed parents who make choices based on flippant 'what they want' rather than best for their dc make poor parents

Funkyslippers · 21/10/2023 16:17

I breast fed because it was so damned easy, once I'd established it with DD1 after a week or so (only because the midwives at the hospital didn't check that I was doing it right), and with dd2 it was a doddle from day 1. It also uses up loads of calories and actually helps to relax your body so helps getting back to sleep in the night if you have a night feeder

FudgeSundae · 21/10/2023 16:18

LylaLee · 21/10/2023 15:07

Good for you that you're rich, but 2/3 months maternity leave is not something to boast about or to promote as an ideal.

We are in no way rich. My whole point was that we couldn’t afford for me to take longer. Don’t be ridiculous. It certainly is not a boast, more to remind people that not everyone has a genuine choice.

Cowlover89 · 21/10/2023 16:18

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/10/2023 11:47

Mine was the opposite, he was hoping I'd formula feed because he wanted to be able to share the feeds when possible.

You can still share the feeds with breastfeeding. Which I plan to do.

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