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Bed sharing with my kids -Partner wants me to push for a change, feel weird ☹️

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Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 01:02

Am I being Uber over sensitive here?
history: 2 kids, one 7, one 10. 10yr DS has autism, Tourette’s, anxiety and has has a very hard few years. I split with their dad after a long time
of what I now understand was coercive
and emotional abuse which Iater turned physical. As a result my son has witnessed more than any child should have ☹️It hurts to even write it. I’m doing my best and have done my best to support him and he’s happy
and well settled At school. The reason there’s so much about him is 2 fold: 1. He is more
challenging
in his behaviours due to his conditions (or different abilities as his younger sister adorably and rightly calls them). 2. He’s the one I’ve just had an odd conversation with my partner about and need your opinions on.
his little sister (7) is neurotypical but quite clingy to me due to above though she witnessed far less as was younger so had less awareness but still was affected.

ivd had a good friend for the past few years, amazing lovely
guy who is genuinely a good egg and I’ve always hoped we could be something more when the time was right (as did he). That’s now happened and of course we are talking about the future, as it stands the only time i see him is 1-2 times a week when my mum babysits for me and he is growing understandably frustrated at this. And me too, but I guess because my priority is the kids and I’m on my
own with them I mainly look forward to our time together, whereas he increasingly mainly talks about it being too little.

part of my son’s anxiety and PTSD is seeing me around other men so we’ve taken it soooooo slow. He knows this guy is my friend but thats all. Both kids still share a
bed with me- they have their own lovely rooms that they enjoy spending time in during the day playing or with friends, but come nighttime both want
to sleep in with me. To be honest I’ve just gone with it - always assumed they’d move into their own beds when ready and it was
preferable than getting up and returning them to bed 20 times
a night (I’ve attempted various sleep training techniques over
the years but inevitably give up as get so exhausted returning them to bed and I work full time and just couldn’t see it through with the lack of sleep. Due to his autism my son takes hours to fall asleep and I simply do the fastest route
to sleep which is reading him to sleep but if I do that and he wakes in the night and I’m not there he has a panic attack so I just let him come in with me. full disclosure there!

and my partner knows this and has always so sweetly said don’t worry, it’s totally understandable, they’ve been through so much, they’ll move to their own needs when the times right, I don’t care etc. as I say, he’s a wonder Supportive guy.

the AIBU is this: tonight he said quite randomly Said on the phone he thinks it’s “strange” now that my
son is still sleeping with me and that needs
to change. I was taken aback and said what’s strange about it and he said well he’s on the cusp of puberty now so it’s getting a bit strange, you need
to get him into his own bed.
now, had this always been his view I’d accept it as appreciate most
of our culture thinks bed sharing is weird past infants. But it hurt because until now he’s been so so supportive. So kind, so understanding that to hear him say it’s strange hurt my Feelings.

so, am I being over sensitive? I know I can be and if I am I’ll need to reflect on that and change my actions. That’s where I meed
you to come in objectively!

thank you and sorry for the Essay ☹️

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RedHelenB · 18/10/2023 13:02

Aquamarine1029 · 18/10/2023 01:26

I don't think you can reasonably expect your relationship with your boyfriend to progress further if your children are still sharing a bed with you. That said, I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong at all, it may very well be what's right for your kids, but it may not be acceptable for your boyfriend.

This

StarDolphins · 18/10/2023 13:03

So he’s gone from’titally understandable after what he’s been through’ to things need to change?! Unless 3 years have passed between these comments, I’d be saying it is what it is, you know my situation.

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:06

StarDolphins · 18/10/2023 13:03

So he’s gone from’titally understandable after what he’s been through’ to things need to change?! Unless 3 years have passed between these comments, I’d be saying it is what it is, you know my situation.

that kind of is what I wanted to say! It felt out the blue to hear him say last night it’s getting strange for my 10 year old to still share my bed ☹️

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Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:09

I think the reason I felt uneasy was its
literally The first time he’s said anything critical of my set up and while I’ve had it from others, not from him hence why I’m probably going agggh what? I totally get most guys would have got impatient long ago ☹️

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MissJoGrant · 18/10/2023 13:12

eachtigertires · 18/10/2023 02:16

Not strange at all. You sound like a fantastic mother who knows what her kids need. Boyfriend can suck it up.

That's not how relationships work though, is it?

seenco · 18/10/2023 13:13

I guess maybe it's the first time he's said anything explicitly critical, but from "I know he thinks part of it the meltdowns are partly down to a lack of discipline and boundaries" it sounds like you have felt judged by him for a while?

I don't think he's abusive or manipulative or whatever nonsense, but if he continues to make you feel judged than yes sadly that isn't a good sign. It could be that he just needs a bit more exposure to grasp the reality of your family situation, which is fine... Or that he will never be ready ready/willing to learn properly and open-mindedly about ND kids, in which case it's just not a good fit. (I don't think that means abusive etc though, even on MN you'll find many ignorant posters who think discipline will solve ND...)

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/10/2023 13:16

Is he going to want his own children one day?

Hearmeout · 18/10/2023 13:17

I think that's an excellent argument for teaching ops son now about sleeping independently so he doesn't grow up to be the adult man of which you speak.

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:25

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/10/2023 13:16

Is he going to want his own children one day?

He does, yes but we’ve had this conversation a lot
as I was worried he’d miss out and he’s said if we never have one he’s fine as he just wants to be with me. I’ve said so many times
to him that I understand if he wants to go and be with someone younger and have a whole
family with her (though I would Be so sad, but I love him
him and want him to be
happy and fulfilled) but he says he wants to be with me and for years thought he wouldn’t have one with his ex who had the 2
girls so it’s not a dealbreaker for him.
but he definitely does Want that happy family life and I worry his experience with his
ex has unwittingly set
me up to fail in a sad way as I can’t provide that (and he’s always said it doesn’t matter but I feel like it kind of does now ☹️)

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waterrat · 18/10/2023 13:28

Sorry Op but he is being controlling. It's none of his business and this is a red flag for coercive behaviour.

waterrat · 18/10/2023 13:29

and btw my 10 year old who is autistic sleeps next to me - it's very very normal for ND children to have highly dysregulated nervous systems and require much more physical presence to be calm enough to sleep.

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:30

waterrat · 18/10/2023 13:29

and btw my 10 year old who is autistic sleeps next to me - it's very very normal for ND children to have highly dysregulated nervous systems and require much more physical presence to be calm enough to sleep.

This is so so true of my son. He presses his legs and feel against me and is out in minutes. On his own he’ll literally be up all night, I’ve tried weighted blankets, white noise, melatonin, you name it. only thing that helps him sleep is… me.

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Choopa · 18/10/2023 13:32

@Tangofantastic You are not 'over sensitive' at all. He is using a hurtful word and is being impatient. I can only imagine this is the start of more pressure towards you/your son to be a certain way.
(Btw. my 11 ds still climbs into my bed at night. Nothing strange with that at all. You're doing the right thing by your children)

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:33

seenco · 18/10/2023 13:13

I guess maybe it's the first time he's said anything explicitly critical, but from "I know he thinks part of it the meltdowns are partly down to a lack of discipline and boundaries" it sounds like you have felt judged by him for a while?

I don't think he's abusive or manipulative or whatever nonsense, but if he continues to make you feel judged than yes sadly that isn't a good sign. It could be that he just needs a bit more exposure to grasp the reality of your family situation, which is fine... Or that he will never be ready ready/willing to learn properly and open-mindedly about ND kids, in which case it's just not a good fit. (I don't think that means abusive etc though, even on MN you'll find many ignorant posters who think discipline will solve ND...)

good point. I definitely get prickly feeling when he says about my
son’s meltdowns / mood etc that it’s party a lack of discipline etc but I also appreciate 99% of the population would think that too and it’s only
forums And support groups for ND families that really get how you can’t parent / discipline an ND child like an NT child.

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Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:34

Choopa · 18/10/2023 13:32

@Tangofantastic You are not 'over sensitive' at all. He is using a hurtful word and is being impatient. I can only imagine this is the start of more pressure towards you/your son to be a certain way.
(Btw. my 11 ds still climbs into my bed at night. Nothing strange with that at all. You're doing the right thing by your children)

This really helps, thank you 🥰

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Frasers · 18/10/2023 13:39

I do understand both sides. Can I ask you honestly, if you met a man and he shared a bed with his ten year old daughter, would you think it would be best for him to try to get her to sleep in her own bed?

I think I fundamentally agree with him, I think unless you wish to share a bed for the rest of your life with your son, then maybe now is the time. And your daughter maybe won’t move if he’s there, I understand it’s difficult but maybe he’s right it’s time to think about it. As the longer it goes on the harder it might be to stop it.

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 13:56

Frasers · 18/10/2023 13:39

I do understand both sides. Can I ask you honestly, if you met a man and he shared a bed with his ten year old daughter, would you think it would be best for him to try to get her to sleep in her own bed?

I think I fundamentally agree with him, I think unless you wish to share a bed for the rest of your life with your son, then maybe now is the time. And your daughter maybe won’t move if he’s there, I understand it’s difficult but maybe he’s right it’s time to think about it. As the longer it goes on the harder it might be to stop it.

I’d like to think if she had additional needs and he was a good dad I’d understand but I totally
get that I’d probably get impatient at always coming last. However he’s always been so so understanding and I feel like he’s now getting impatient ☹️☹️Which I understand it’s just I didn’t see it coming after so many years of the opposite.

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OhmygodDont · 18/10/2023 15:50

With the hole sleeping thing and his leg the pressure basically being his comfort to fall asleep. In your bed or his own have you tried a weighted blanket or duvet at all?

I mean I get whole co sleeping being an issue really in a romantic relationship especially since they are not his children, so it’s not just a case of buying a huge bed. I personally didn’t want my own children sleeping in my bed but yours have been though a lot.

Passepartoute · 18/10/2023 16:14

Is your son getting support, for example through CAMHS or an EHCP? In particular, is he getting help for his obvious sensory issues? Has an occupational therapist with expertise in sensory issues assessed him?

RandomButtons · 18/10/2023 16:24

I don’t think either of you a wrong here to be honest.

Your son is hitting the age where he needs to transition to his own bed. I understand his extra needs, but adding “having wet dreams in mums bed” is not an extra trauma he needs. I think you need to work on the plan for this.

Your partner obviously wants your relationship to progress - there’s nothing wrong with that. However you need to have a very open and honest conversation about expectations and desires from each side. If he’s pushy, then it’s time to say goodbye. If he just wants to move forward but is happy waiting knowing there’s progress then you can work with that.

Tangofantastic · 18/10/2023 16:39

To answer
some questions I hope:

my son feels very immature in terms
of puberty and wet dreams, he’s tiny for
his age and the very idea of him feeling romantically about a girl (or boy) seems super unlikely in near future unless I’m very naive but I work with kids so I don’t think I am (but happy to be corrected).

he does get support from camhs and from school ASN.

we have tried weighted blankets, melatonin, white noise, everything but nothing works, he’ll literally stay up all night.

i think it sounds like I have to accept that my
partner is now reasonably getting impatient and wants to move faster and that’s not quite been my thoughts yet as my son takes so long to transition with anything and the bed sharing thing has been a long term security for him.

Thank you all so much

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Choopa · 18/10/2023 17:37

@Tangofantastic just listen carefully how your partner airs issues going forward.

It's Ok to want more/ different things from the relationship, but healthy people generally word it with 'i feel..etc' whereas immature or toxic people make it your fault 'you're weird'..

Don't feel pressured to do anything you're not comfortable with. It sounds like you've been through a lot, and you don't need more trouble.

RandomButtons · 18/10/2023 21:33

He’s not mature at 10 no, but if the transition takes a few months he will be 12 before you know it. Hormones can kick in any time, every teen is different. A quick google says 13 is common for nocturnal emissions but it can start as young as 9.

As the poster above says - a healthy mature response from your partner is key. Understanding and patience from him is a good sign. Accusations or impatience and it’s bin him off.

ImustLearn2Cook · 19/10/2023 00:17

From your updates it seems that he has been waiting for things to change in order for his idea of a relationship to happen on his terms in the way that he visualises. But it won’t happen. He is not fully grasping your son’s additional needs and that it is not something your son will grow out of or be disciplined out of.

Your suggestion to him to attend some workshops about ASD was a great idea. It is a shame that he has shot that down. He says that he just wants to learn from you and your son instead of a generic course, but is he?

Because if he was willing to learn from you then I don’t think that he would have immediately rejected your suggestion. Or criticised your parenting.

Tangofantastic · 19/10/2023 01:07

ImustLearn2Cook · 19/10/2023 00:17

From your updates it seems that he has been waiting for things to change in order for his idea of a relationship to happen on his terms in the way that he visualises. But it won’t happen. He is not fully grasping your son’s additional needs and that it is not something your son will grow out of or be disciplined out of.

Your suggestion to him to attend some workshops about ASD was a great idea. It is a shame that he has shot that down. He says that he just wants to learn from you and your son instead of a generic course, but is he?

Because if he was willing to learn from you then I don’t think that he would have immediately rejected your suggestion. Or criticised your parenting.

This is so astute. I think on reflection he does think a lot of my son’s challenging behaviours (and wow yes they are challenging) are down to a lack of family stability, lack of discipline and lack of a positive male role model. None of which I dispute. But I also know that’s not even half of it, his neurodiversity runs through every part of him and it makes him beautiful and different and amazing but also challenging and not the Disney happy family I think we could be just given “time”. My son, this evening for example, spent all of dinner and most of the evening reeling off every NBA player’s height and number. Impressive? Yes. Monotonous to the listener by the time it was dessert? Yes. Would be have kicked off if told to stop and be polite and ask others to talk? Yes. Could I have managed that? Yes, but I pick my battles. And his lovely
ideas of
caravan holidays, Disney, sing a long movie nights, busy zoos, are all my son’s ideas of hell. My partner thinks he’ll just get used to it but while that may work for an NT child it doesn’t for my son. And lately I guess I do feel a little judged that it’s my lack of discipline that’s causing his behaviour but I know it’s much more likely to be his autism and anxiety. And whereas before my partner seemed endlessly interested and supportive with it I do feel he’s getting (again understandably) more impatient ☹️

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